VN Ren'Py My True Desire [v0.3.1] [DTZ Games]

[Fitharia]

I don’t know if this is a kink for, but it seems you discovered this website yesterday and ever since then in every thread i follow i see you talking about your boyfriend.

I am all for gender equality and i would be laughing my ass off if i saw a dude constantly reminding others that he has a gf. So same applies to you.

I know I do that, but it some habbit i've gotten from playing mmo games, you wouldn't know how many perverts play there, the minute you tell them you're a woman, they don't stop hitting on you, so yes I love to remind people i'm already taken. Also I love to read stories that somewhat feel real and compare them with my lifestyle with my bf, they don't need to be happened real ofcourse, fiction is real fun to read. It just i'm tired of all those brainless soaps and books and games that have no sense and feel written by someone smoking something bad.

But i'm sure i don't do it every thread, mostly if talking about themes I tend to do that, when talking about the game, I try to keep it to positive and negatives of that game, but often people tend to derail the conversation talking about tags on the VN.

 

[Fitharia]

I see that and i hope i didn’t offend you. I am just simply saying this is usually a man behavior which i find quite laughable. Most of the times they do it for validation, like “Hey i might be here too but unlike you losers i have a partner!”. But in your case i guess it makes sense.

Don't worry i'm not so easy offended, it was a valid question and you respected it.

 

[DTZ Games]

The second chapter is great! It was interesting to watch the plot develop, the art is pretty good, except for the main character's art, in some places he looks a little feminine, although it's not too noticeable. Looking forward to future updates. Good luck, author!

Thank you so much! My current setup and overall art style are more feminine, and believe it or not, it's kinda hard to create male characters. I've just made a LoRa for the MC, but it still has some flaws.

Still, I'll probably try to improve things in Chapter 03.

Fun fact: When I prompt '1boy, male, gym, lifting weights...' I often end up with this kind of image. Tough, isn't it?

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[HardPlay]

what a boring version this update is to me

 

[Fitharia]

Thank you so much! My current setup and overall art style are more feminine, and believe it or not, it's kinda hard to create male characters. I've just made a LoRa for the MC, but it still has some flaws.

Still, I'll probably try to improve things in Chapter 03.

Fun fact: When I prompt '1boy, male, gym, lifting weights...' I often end up with this kind of image. Tough, isn't it?

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Least we know that AI isn't still ready to rule the world, like some doomsayers fear. But yea, AI can make amazing real pictures but also create amazing creepy abominations.

 

[DTZ Games]

Before that, I need to say again that I follow your game, I'm not a hater, I'm a follower

The fact that no one has pointed out a flaw so far doesn't mean it doesn't exist. My words are not important as well, the reality is important. And my friend, the art style is not a problem, it's completely satisfactory. I was talking about a problem in a small number of arts, not the art style itself

I've played a lot of AI-driven games and I know that it's unavoidable to some extent, but this small number of your art pieces is a moderate flaw. I haven't seen such a thing in, for example, "My New Girlfriend", I say that this problem only exists in a small number of art pieces, the rest of your art has no problem at all. Below is an example where in the first one, the MC looks like a dangerous street fighter, and in the second one, he appears baby-faced

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These two are really very different from each other
Three or four arts of the FMC also had this problem
I brought this up because I saw you were looking for feedback. This could make the game better
I also need to say that I've only played a small amount of the second update, I haven't had a chance to play the rest yet. Maybe this problem doesn't exist in the second update
If this only problem is solved, or at least doesn't happen in the future, your game can be placed alongside the top AI-driven games because it has many strengths

I absolutely appreciate the feedback, and I didn't mean to offend! (In fact, I wrote a longer message because your concern might be shared by many others). I agree that, when comparing the two images, the MC does look quite different. In my previous message, I mentioned how difficult it is to create the MC and male characters in general

Before continuing with Chapter 03, I'll fix these issues. In my mind, it wasn't something that impactful...

That said, I have to disagree with you and point out that this kind of inconsistency does appear in other games, such as MNGF. I literally sent the images. Maybe not specifically the feminization of the MC, but other consistency errors do exist

 

[DTZ Games]

Least we know that AI isn't still ready to rule the world, like some doomsayers fear. But yea, AI can make amazing real pictures but also create amazing creepy abominations.

The greatest strength of AI is PRETENDING that it created a good image in a very short time. AI is like a magician. It tricks the viewer. (Speaking only about image generation.)

 

[DTZ Games]

DTZ Games

I'm impressed! Amazing "graphics", big update in short time, overall great! Keep it up!

❤❤

 

[AbyssGames]

I absolutely appreciate the feedback, and I didn't mean to offend! (In fact, I wrote a longer message because your concern might be shared by many others). I agree that, when comparing the two images, the MC does look quite different. In my previous message, I mentioned how difficult it is to create the MC and male characters in general

Before continuing with Chapter 03, I'll fix these issues. In my mind, it wasn't something that impactful...

That said, I have to disagree with you and point out that this kind of inconsistency does appear in other games, such as MNGF. I literally sent the images. Maybe not specifically the feminization of the MC, but other consistency errors do exist

From working with Circle and from my own project and I believe yours is similar in a way. The lora set up that Circle uses is a lot more colorful than ours. The characters, environments, everything pops out that tad bit more, which makes it actually pretty difficult to spot those inconsistencies that you mentioned, as it doesn't have that generic AI feel to them. When you use a lora setup that is a tad more bland, like mine and yours, those inconsistencies do pop out a bit more...

However compared to some... other games I won't mention here, they are so minor that I wouldn't worry too much about them or spend too much time on them.

 

[DTZ Games]

I'm glad you like his work and not a hater, I saw that too that the face was more serious and then more femine the next, but like i said it didn't bother me, so long the clothing is the same, the hairstyle is the same, the eye colors are the same and there no mistakes like 6 fingers and out of range long arms and such. Probably could be fixed but takes more work. Large gaming companies wouldn't have those problems basicly because many people work on graphics and it split the work over them. But small companies or one man developer doesn't have that kind resource.

Yeah, like... people were starving for Chapter 02, so I wanted to get it done ASAP. I spent countless late nights working on the game. This chapter was huge. Over 5000 lines of code, new artwork, new characters, a community to manage, animations introduced, the phone system implemented… all of that during the end-of-year period, which is when I’m busiest at my IRL job

In the end, I’m just one person! But now, thanks to the community, I’m getting to know people who can help me

 

[SamuraiFruitPunch88]

Really enjoyed the update. Honestly, unlike other games that have the protagonist revealing his cuckold fetish early on (not saying that is a wrong move), I was gratefully surprised that the MC was afraid and chose to lie about it. It made it more...authentic in a certain way? The rational fear of potentially losing what he has, thus saying nothing was something I liked.

I love the FMC's design which is odd for me since I tend to prefer more "beautiful" women designs over cute ones, but Ana has the perfect "slutty cuteness" that is so ridiculously hot I couldn't help but be bewitched by her.

Her and the MC's dynamic was good and fun to read. The MC's chat with the perv...I forgot the name, was funny and the fact that the perv is the classical virgin who boasts online was a great point; I hope you include more of his character later on.

I like the current pace of the game. I think the very best NTR/NTS games are the ones that take their time yet are rewarding at the same thing, so you don't want to drag the game to the point where is boring, Dev.

For my part, I don't care whether the MC tells Ana his fetish right away in the next update or he keeps subtly leading her down the slutty path. Even if I prefer the latter because I think is hotter, I want you to create the game you want to and enjoy it (because I am certainly enjoying it).

In the personal preference section, I would like to see more of Theo, I always enjoyed the boyfriend of the female friend having his way with the MC's girlfriend, and the online perv. But that's just a selfish desire of mine. Also, if the mention of a cosplay convention is anything to go by, I don't think I am in the wrong to suspect that you will make Ana dress as a fictional character? If that's the case (and if you haven't decided yet) I would like to vote for 2B outfit, I mean, with an ass like Ana's, that's the perfect outfit for her.

Without anything else to say, I wish everybody a good day and the best of luck to the Dev.

I will be looking forward to the next update.

 

[DTZ Games]

two chapters in and MC hasn't even admitted to having a cuck/NTS/sharing fetish yet lol

fans of endless-NTS-teasing-that-goes-nowhere are living in a golden age of blue balls, everywhere you look on f95 there's an exciting new game where nothing ever actually happens

I don't know if it's even worth to reply something like this, but... here we go

This is what’s written in the sixth dialogue of the game, buddy... sixth...
But I won't go too much into this subject. I don't want to polarize this thread or let it turn into a spam of frustrations. I just advise you to play other games that get straight to the point, or read short doujins that go directly into it. From the beginning, it was stated that the game would be slower and more realistic. In the description, in the dialogues, in the actions...

 

[DTZ Games]

From working with Circle and from my own project and I believe yours is similar in a way. The lora set up that Circle uses is a lot more colorful than ours. The characters, environments, everything pops out that tad bit more, which makes it actually pretty difficult to spot those inconsistencies that you mentioned, as it doesn't have that generic AI feel to them. When you use a lora setup that is a tad more bland, like mine and yours, those inconsistencies do pop out a bit more...

However compared to some... other games I won't mention here, they are so minor that I wouldn't worry too much about them or spend too much time on them.

I'd say my setup is pretty damn colorful, but the LoRa aren't that great with environment consistency and male characters...
I just think that CG artists spend a lot more time on each image, which is why the overall artwork is more consistent

 

[DTZ Games]

Good news, excellent
It's a real shame that a game that excels in all areas has this flaw (a few arts). They don't need to be exactly alike, just enough that at first glance we can confidently say these two are the same person

Yes, I saw the images, and I definitely agree that inconsistency is seen in "all" AI-driven games. For example, in the recent update of "My New Girlfriend," the MC's face changed somewhat in some places, But they had at least 80% similarity

By the way, your FMC game has a lot of potential. She has a character and personality that makes it very easy for the MC and player to trust her completely. This opens up opportunities for very hot scenes. Perhaps the most important parameter in NTS is the level of trust. The higher the level of trust, the more hot scenes can be created. But when the level of trust is low, the slightest wrong move from the FMC can cause dissatisfaction among a large number of NTS Fans and cause them to label her as a worthless, whore, prostitute, etc., which we have heard a lot of in NTS games after five or six updates

Thank you so much, really. Again, I apologize if I sounded rude. I confess I got a bit irritated yesterday with some people hating on the game and the community for no reason, but it's something I have to deal with

I promise I'll take all constructive comments into consideration, and Chapter 03 will be even better than Chapter 02! Stay tuned for Ch03 buddy ❤

 

[DTZ Games]

Really enjoyed the update. Honestly, unlike other games that have the protagonist revealing his cuckold fetish early on (not saying that is a wrong move), I was gratefully surprised that the MC was afraid and chose to lie about it. It made it more...authentic in a certain way? The rational fear of potentially losing what he has, thus saying nothing was something I liked.

I love the FMC's design which is odd for me since I tend to prefer more "beautiful" women designs over cute ones, but Ana has the perfect "slutty cuteness" that is so ridiculously hot I couldn't help but be bewitched by her.

Her and the MC's dynamic was good and fun to read. The MC's chat with the perv...I forgot the name, was funny and the fact that the perv is the classical virgin who boasts online was a great point; I hope you include more of his character later on.

I like the current pace of the game. I think the very best NTR/NTS games are the ones that take their time yet are rewarding at the same thing, so you don't want to drag the game to the point where is boring, Dev.

For my part, I don't care whether the MC tells Ana his fetish right away in the next update or he keeps subtly leading her down the slutty path. Even if I prefer the latter because I think is hotter, I want you to create the game you want to and enjoy it (because I am certainly enjoying it).

In the personal preference section, I would like to see more of Theo, I always enjoyed the boyfriend of the female friend having his way with the MC's girlfriend, and the online perv. But that's just a selfish desire of mine. Also, if the mention of a cosplay convention is anything to go by, I don't think I am in the wrong to suspect that you will make Ana dress as a fictional character? If that's the case (and if you haven't decided yet) I would like to vote for 2B outfit, I mean, with an ass like Ana's, that's the perfect outfit for her.

Without anything else to say, I wish everybody a good day and the best of luck to the Dev.

I will be looking forward to the next update.

Yooo, thank you so much for the feedback! I'm really happy you liked it. It's hard to bring sex appeal to a character as cute as Ana, but it seems like I'm doing well. I've received a lot of feedback saying she's perfect and that the relationship between her and the MC is enjoyable to witness, so I'm really glad

And about the next chapters, I'm sure you're going to love them. I can say your imagination is really on point, not too far from mine! But I won't spoil anything

 

[perfectspecimen]

Great game so far, love the art and the pacing.

Dev, I don't want to project my view on other people in a way that could hurt the game's success, but if you put out a poll asking if you should a) wrestle with the AI to ensure better MMC character consistency, or b) preserve the consistency you have now and focus on advancing the story and nailing the poses and expressions, I personally would vote for B.

 

[Sniffgog]

This is a kinetic novel masquerading as an actual game; none of the choices matter at all, and they aren’t even tracked.

I know the dev wrote a note about choices, but the note’s wording was too ambiguous, leaving room for misinterpretation about how they actually function in the game.
The note gives the impression that while they don't affect the overall plot, they will be at least tracked and actually affect things a little, but in reality other than the initial dialogue after the choice, they don't matter.

 

[AbyssGames]

two chapters in and MC hasn't even admitted to having a cuck/NTS/sharing fetish yet lol

fans of endless-NTS-teasing-that-goes-nowhere are living in a golden age of blue balls, everywhere you look on f95 there's an exciting new game where nothing ever actually happens

Hey man, can you send me a DM? I can't seem to DM you.

 

[idkmanerally]

Hey man, can you send me a DM? I can't seem to DM you.

i enabled DMs and messaged you, not sure if it went through (never used the DM feature on f95)

 

[mok135]

I am invested now. I am really enjoying the relationship between the couple and how cute and loyal the FMC is. I am also glad that this is a slow-burn - fast paced netorase never works. I also like that the MC doesn't tell the GF about his fetish right away - I never really understood why netorase stories rush that part, that is not realistic. BUT at the same time I hope the dev doen't overcook and lets the mc tell about his fetish to the fmc relatively soon (of course not too soon, it doesn't seem like he is ready for now). Otherwise it will feel a bit scummy for the mc to try to get her into sexual situations without her consent.

The writing does feel weird at times because of the MC's thoughts (he reacts a bit strangely to situations at times) but I hope it gets a bit better in that regard with further updates.

Overall, a great start. I am looking forward to the continuation.