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Sounds like a plan, at least. Some low hanging optimization fruits:
Blinking doesn't really have to be animated on the map - really pleasing feature by the way, adds to the charm a lot.
Consider throttling random NPCs a little so they're not as expensive.
Trim random NPCs you never really interacted with from relationships list. Alternatively, store it in some efficient file and do not load the whole thing with the game.
I'm not 100% certain, but I think constantly checking EVERY NPC guzzles resources, and there's a lot of them. Maybe consider a configurable, random NPC limit too.
Closest is Lilith's Throne, but it's plagued. Very plagued. The game barely progressed since I last looked at it, and that was years back.
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 174, in script
$ ui.interact()
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 174, in <module>
$ ui.interact()
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 415, in __call__
renpy.save(fn, extra_info=save_name)
RecursionError: maximum recursion depth exceeded while pickling an object
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 174, in script
$ ui.interact()
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\ast.py", line 821, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\python.py", line 1178, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 174, in <module>
$ ui.interact()
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\ui.py", line 301, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\core.py", line 2215, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, pause_modal=pause_modal, **kwargs) # type: ignore
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\core.py", line 3278, in interact_core
rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\screen.py", line 793, in event
rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1523, in event
rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 288, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 1180, in event
return handle_click(self.clicked)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 1101, in handle_click
rv = run(action)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 394, in run
new_rv = run(i, *args, **kwargs)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 401, in run
return action(*args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 415, in __call__
renpy.save(fn, extra_info=save_name)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\loadsave.py", line 431, in save
reraise(t, e, tb)
File "lib/python3.9/future/utils/__init__.py", line 444, in raise_
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\loadsave.py", line 417, in save
dump((roots, renpy.game.log), logf)
File "D:\1\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\compat\pickle.py", line 107, in dump
pickle.dump(o, f, pickle.HIGHEST_PROTOCOL if highest else PROTOCOL)
RecursionError: maximum recursion depth exceeded while pickling an object
Windows-10-10.0.22631 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.3.2.24090902
My World Isekai 0.0.791
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Thank you SO MUCH for the bug report with the fulltrack. I'll try to fix it for next build. I may know why it happens
Normally asking for other games in a game thread is frowned up, but I'll assume that if the dev does so it's okay
Lilith Throne has been mentioned; some argument can be made for the classic Fenoxo games and various life sims of course (Degrees of Lewdity must surely be mentioned, but that's not my cup of tea, so can't say too much about it). But to me, it's all not quite the same vibe.
Instead, as I mentioned in my post ... by which I mean I would have if I had correctly remembered the game's name *coughcough* ... I think the closest is Unholy Arts (definitely not Academy, nobody thinks that game is called Unholy Academy ^^). It's limited to a smaller set of people, but you roam different locations, recruit/fight other people (sexually in that in case) and go about your life in the academy-like setting. Learning unholy arts. The NPCs here too do their own thing, and they too can engage in their own battles without player involvement. As the game progresses, you can influence/change their preferences, and then they do (somewhat) different things.
It's a bit difficult to get into and certainly not for everyone but in a lot of way very impressive.
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Daang, sounds good, but to be honest, the look doesn't really appeal to me,.
Me need more visual than texts ooga booga.
But I'll test that out when I'm in the mood.
Thanks for the recommandation!
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I'll definitely return to this a few updates down the road. I like the concept of the "ecosystem" you've created with fully-capable independent NPCs and the like. Very rare for an adult game to have that at this level, coding-wise. Good luck, sir.
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Yeah haha. They have jobs and have a salary. I still have to code what they can do with their money though but I have plenty of ideas.
The next build will implement "families", with pregnancy to expand one's family etc
I see, well if thats your plan i would at least be gratefull for a difficulty slider on the future, either way great game with lots of potential
A thought could be a sorta "rubberband mechanic".
Either say (crude method) "max level cap = player level +3" (perhaps +5 on difficult and +1 on easy, if difficulty options are ever a thing) or
make the EXP gain scale with max level of characters for lower level characters (so if a character reaches level 8 or something everyone who is below that gains progressively more experience the further away they are for anything to do; probably also losing should give some small fraction of experience ... after all, losing teaches a lot of things too). That way you can catch up.
Alternatively maybe quest NPCs should be temporarily "frozen" in progression to prevent potentially getting in a soft locked loop. You can take your time catching up them.
And yeah, I'll join the "beat them in the hospital" faction xD It's definitely an effective exploit ...
Either say (crude method) "max level cap = player level +3" (perhaps +5 on difficult and +1 on easy, if difficulty options are ever a thing) or
make the EXP gain scale with max level of characters for lower level characters (so if a character reaches level 8 or something everyone who is below that gains progressively more experience the further away they are for anything to do; probably also losing should give some small fraction of experience ... after all, losing teaches a lot of things too). That way you can catch up.
Alternatively maybe quest NPCs should be temporarily "frozen" in progression to prevent potentially getting in a soft locked loop. You can take your time catching up them.
And yeah, I'll join the "beat them in the hospital" faction xD It's definitely an effective exploit ...
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I'll totally do something like that. A difficulty choice which will change the NPCs experience mutliplier.
Here's how the experience works.
The experience you gain are proportionate to the damage you've dealt against a target.
For example: if you deal 40% of damage agaisnt a target, you will gain 40% of his total experience. If you lose the battle, you will gain half of that experience.
This way, it renders impossible for exploit such as joining a winning side during a battle and gain experience, even though you did nothing.
I will set a level cap for secondary NPCs per city, so the player can have a real feeling of progressing and exploring new cities.
I'd even go as far as making the level cap adapting to the development of a city. So the higher a city lvl is, the higher the lvl cap is for its inhabitants.
For the main characters or any quest related NPCs, I will set a level cap or something like that.
Here's how the experience works.
The experience you gain are proportionate to the damage you've dealt against a target.
For example: if you deal 40% of damage agaisnt a target, you will gain 40% of his total experience. If you lose the battle, you will gain half of that experience.
This way, it renders impossible for exploit such as joining a winning side during a battle and gain experience, even though you did nothing.
I will set a level cap for secondary NPCs per city, so the player can have a real feeling of progressing and exploring new cities.
I'd even go as far as making the level cap adapting to the development of a city. So the higher a city lvl is, the higher the lvl cap is for its inhabitants.
For the main characters or any quest related NPCs, I will set a level cap or something like that.
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Normally asking for other games in a game thread is frowned up, but I'll assume that if the dev does so it's okay
You're absolutely right! I usually don't post much, and I should have been more considerate about keeping the conversation on track. I didn’t mean to interrupt or derail the thread. My apologies for that..
Tried to resume my old gameplay from Version 0.0.691, got the Error Stacktrace:
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 499, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
AttributeError: Can't get attribute 'CharacterAffection' on <renpy.python.StoreModule object at 0x00000000041fbfd0>
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
python hide:
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\ast.py", line 821, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\python.py", line 1178, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
python hide:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
ui.interact()
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\ui.py", line 301, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\core.py", line 2215, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, pause_modal=pause_modal, **kwargs) # type: ignore
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\core.py", line 3278, in interact_core
rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\screen.py", line 793, in event
rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1523, in event
rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 288, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1523, in event
rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 288, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1523, in event
rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 288, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1294, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
[Previous line repeated 2 more times]
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 1180, in event
return handle_click(self.clicked)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 1101, in handle_click
rv = run(action)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 401, in run
return action(*args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 499, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\loadsave.py", line 825, in load
roots, log = loads(log_data)
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\compat\pickle.py", line 104, in loads
return load(io.BytesIO(s))
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\compat\pickle.py", line 101, in load
return up.load()
File "E:\Games\_\Myworldisekai\Myworldisekai-0.0.791-win\renpy\compat\pickle.py", line 97, in find_class
return super().find_class(module, name)
AttributeError: Can't get attribute 'CharacterAffection' on <renpy.python.StoreModule object at 0x00000000041fbfd0>
Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.3.2.24090902
My World Isekai 0.0.791
Sat Nov 23 14:57:20 2024