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I was originally into this game but to be honest it just made me miss when he worked on FOBS. A lot of the "monster" designs either overlap with FOBS or are just too weird to stick your dick in.

Off the top of my head... The vore pig, the rotten Fiddlesticks-looking dummy, the red dimension thing that gives the PC a reverse BJ. Niche weird monster designs that don't share a general fetish, even though FOBS' niche monsters were mostly focused around vore and a few of them you could dick down normally.

The huge cat, the zombies, the cultist, the green and blue water demon, the humanised thwomp, ghost girl and a few others. There's a design overlap with what FOBS has that a few of these enemies already exist in the current version of FOBS or one of its older builds.

I just don't feel the Zell23 magic with this one anymore, something was lost along the way. I'm kind of hoping the other version of this he's working with Ansala on might be better since it's more FOBS-like, but we'll have to see I suppose.
 
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I was originally into this game but to be honest it just made me miss when he worked on FOBS. A lot of the "monster" designs either overlap with FOBS or are just too weird to stick your dick in.

Off the top of my head... The vore pig, the rotten Fiddlesticks-looking dummy, the red dimension thing that gives the PC a reverse BJ. Niche weird monster designs that don't share a general fetish, even though FOBS' niche monsters were mostly focused around vore and a few of them you could dick down normally.

The huge cat, the zombies, the cultist, the green and blue water demon, the humanised thwomp, ghost girl and a few others. There's a design overlap with what FOBS has that a few of these enemies already exist in the current version of FOBS or one of its older builds.

I just don't feel the Zell23 magic with this one anymore, something was lost along the way. I'm kind of hoping the other version of this he's working with Ansala on might be better since it's more FOBS-like, but we'll have to see I suppose.
IIRC Zell23 taste in monster girl is more leaning towards Monster rather than Human in the spectrum, more accurate to say he's into the Teratophilia side of things rather than the humanoid aspect which is why he made this game game in the first place, this game is just 100% his preferences and fetish and the humanoid leaning monsters is just him toning down the monster side of things.
 
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I downloaded all of them and still get the error but now it's MSVCR100.dll.
Man why does it have to be so comlicated, can someone help please?
nevermind guys i figured it out. If the error is about MSVCR100.dll you should download which the dev for some reason didn't specify in the readme
 

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IIRC Zell23 taste in monster girl is more leaning towards Monster rather than Human in the spectrum, more accurate to say he's into the Teratophilia side of things rather than the humanoid aspect which is why he made this game game in the first place, this game is just 100% his preferences and fetish and the humanoid leaning monsters is just him toning down the monster side of things.
And that's based because I like the same thing so GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER ZELL AND MAKE MORE OF IT!!!
 
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IIRC Zell23 taste in monster girl is more leaning towards Monster rather than Human in the spectrum, more accurate to say he's into the Teratophilia side of things rather than the humanoid aspect which is why he made this game game in the first place, this game is just 100% his preferences and fetish and the humanoid leaning monsters is just him toning down the monster side of things.
Bit late to do a 180 and start making self-indulgent games, there are stakes for him now. Zell's developed a fanbase over nearly 10 years of making nsfw games, and they know him as the monsters girls guy not the horror guy. Being self-indulgent and neglecting the fans is going to result in a loss of interest, and more importantly a loss of profit when this game hits DLsite. Not good when it takes him several years to produce each game, FOBs isn't even finished yet.

I don't know why nsfw game devs can't just be happy with making money and making thousands of people happy but they keep taking these bizarre risks. This shit has already happened with Full Flap, who heel-turned from their fans' interests by nosediving into 3D games for absolutely no reason. Despite having always knocked it out of the park with their 2D titles such as Demon's Sperm, they spent 5-ish years learning 3D animations and modelling just to make a god-awful Mario-like, which everybody hated.
 
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Bit late to do a 180 and start making self-indulgent games, there are stakes for him now. Zell's developed a fanbase over nearly 10 years of making nsfw games, and they know him as the monsters girls guy not the horror guy. Being self-indulgent and neglecting the fans is going to result in a loss of interest, and more importantly a loss of profit when this game hits DLsite. Not good when it takes him several years to produce each game, FOBs isn't even finished yet.

I don't know why nsfw game devs can't just be happy with making money and making thousands of people happy but they keep taking these bizarre risks. This shit has already happened with Full Flap, who heel-turned from their fans' interests by nosediving into 3D games for absolutely no reason. Despite having always knocked it out of the park with their 2D titles such as Demon's Sperm, they spent 5-ish years learning 3D animations and modelling just to make a god-awful Mario-like, which everybody hated.
Doing the same shit over and over again is how people get burned out and miserable. Some people want to do something they actually like. Screw off.
 

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Bit late to do a 180 and start making self-indulgent games, there are stakes for him now. Zell's developed a fanbase over nearly 10 years of making nsfw games, and they know him as the monsters girls guy not the horror guy. Being self-indulgent and neglecting the fans is going to result in a loss of interest, and more importantly a loss of profit when this game hits DLsite. Not good when it takes him several years to produce each game, FOBs isn't even finished yet.

I don't know why nsfw game devs can't just be happy with making money and making thousands of people happy but they keep taking these bizarre risks. This shit has already happened with Full Flap, who heel-turned from their fans' interests by nosediving into 3D games for absolutely no reason. Despite having always knocked it out of the park with their 2D titles such as Demon's Sperm, they spent 5-ish years learning 3D animations and modelling just to make a god-awful Mario-like, which everybody hated.
Flap testing out a new workflow/3D isn't remotely close to Zell jumping toward necrophilia & horror.
 

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Bit late to do a 180 and start making self-indulgent games, there are stakes for him now. Zell's developed a fanbase over nearly 10 years of making nsfw games, and they know him as the monsters girls guy not the horror guy. Being self-indulgent and neglecting the fans is going to result in a loss of interest, and more importantly a loss of profit when this game hits DLsite. Not good when it takes him several years to produce each game, FOBs isn't even finished yet.

I don't know why nsfw game devs can't just be happy with making money and making thousands of people happy but they keep taking these bizarre risks. This shit has already happened with Full Flap, who heel-turned from their fans' interests by nosediving into 3D games for absolutely no reason. Despite having always knocked it out of the park with their 2D titles such as Demon's Sperm, they spent 5-ish years learning 3D animations and modelling just to make a god-awful Mario-like, which everybody hated.
This game has been in development for ages, it's nowhere near new, people just weren't ware of it I guess. The way he's handling is way more like a personal project and he's still paddling along.

So don't worry, even if it's a game just for him, he's clearly not taking it all that serious or he would have finished it by now. I think he put more work in FoBS remake in the last handful of months than he has in this game in years.

And for the confused, it is a lean towards teratophilia/the monster side of monster girl because it's supposed to be a horror game and that's where he's pulling the horror from.

But just play the demo, lol. Most monsters fit pretty cleanly with what's already in say Succubus Affection.
 
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Flap testing out a new workflow/3D isn't remotely close to Zell jumping toward necrophilia & horror.
My point being that Fullflap disregarded what the fans wanted and lost years of maintaining good faith and popularity, and it begun with that game for a lot of former fans. Fullflap serves as a warning for many people. Taking pointless risks can topple your game's popularity and your overall income stability from future games.

This game has been in development for ages, it's nowhere near new, people just weren't ware of it I guess. The way he's handling is way more like a personal project and he's still paddling along.

So don't worry, even if it's a game just for him, he's clearly not taking it all that serious or he would have finished it by now. I think he put more work in FoBS remake in the last handful of months than he has in this game in years.

And for the confused, it is a lean towards teratophilia/the monster side of monster girl because it's supposed to be a horror game and that's where he's pulling the horror from.

But just play the demo, lol. Most monsters fit pretty cleanly with what's already in say Succubus Affection.
Developed for ages, yes, but just on the sites like ci-en and fantia and such. I'm not even sure he updates his progress on his old site anymore.

I understand the horror aspect's the focus of this game, and I know Zell's not going to spit in the fan's faces like Fullflap pretty much did. Even though I have my gripes, there are still some good monsters in this game that also get good scenes, like the T-rex thing and its entire segment where you have to hide from it and get from point A to B as it stomps around. I'm happy to tolerate these more unusual enemies if we get some decent gameplay out of it, since Zell23 is one of the few who actually cares about that. But, my issue is that these memorable gameplay segments and enemies are few and far between.

Just for the record I've already played it, for years I've been enjoying the old demos and getting new content with every update, but recently I've lost all interest while still being eager for more FOBS. I can't even exactly say why other than I don't really care for a lot of the enemies plus the crude PGM engine's framerate tanking constantly even though this machine gets a steady 60FPS while playing things like Sea of Thieves.
 
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i've seen this pixel art before but the "other games" section doesn't show the game I had in mind, are they the same artist?