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Opinions are opinions its cool to not agree with mine...

• Engine is no good IMO. Able to skip dialogue is important, which is there but it's so small. I can't enlarge it. Screen is Tiny.
• Tags... I see problematic tags for me personally. I have never seen a good game with bestiality. NTR is hard to write but can be good, while cuck (NTR's cousin) is VERY hard to write well, and is almost never good. It can be done but generally comes off as a trash gimmick.
• Art is good when it's just the avatars. I think the girls look good, no hyper-sexualized triple double G breasts nor chain mail bikini's, but realistic sized bodies.
• Art in cut scenes are bad. Like I don't think it can work level bad.
• Gameplay exploring is rough. It's not fun, worse than RPGM. Note RPGM is a bad engine too.
• Combat... games with combat tend to suck. Rather read a cool text about killing something then hitting the "attack" button then getting 10 XP.
• Hints at Patreon exclusive things in the game is also a red flag.

I'm done

I don't see this going anywhere, not ever going to rate. I see to many red flags. Lack of story, to many gimmicky tags, lack of art, and a bad engine. Sorry dude I would start over and refine things to make a better product. Good luck. Can always prove me wrong...

Thank you for your feedback. I'll respond anyway even though you said you are done with my game.

• Yes, the engine is bad. You can press "space" to skip the entire dialogue and press "F4" to go fullscreen.
• I've realized that "tagging" has become a source of many misunderstandings and arguments here on F(%zone and similar forum. I'm relatively new to this so I wasn't sure what to tag or what not to tag. If I tag too much, it becomes gimmicky. But if I don't tag enough, people complain about not having warnings or appropriate tags.
• I have to give the credit to the artist. He/she did a very good job on that one.
• The non-detail ones are the result of me having a low budget. I could commission a few amount of more detailed artwork, but I chose having more amount of non-detailed artwork. It's not the best outcome, but at least it gave me something to work with. In terms of quality and quantity, there is no way I can compare to an entire studio with the current budget. But hopefully, I'll be able to do that in the future.
• That is something that I have to figure out. Thanks for the feedbacks.
• I can easily disable the combat animation in the game.
• As of now, I'm using all of my revenue from the platform to pay my artists plus some of my savings. Many people immediately perceive it as a red flag, but it's just the way it is. Also, the majority of the contents are in the public version. I'll be open to any suggestions.

I don't disagree with your comments/opinions. I understand that people have different tastes and can tolerate different flags. As a lone individual who had no prior experience in developing games, it's impossible to get rid of all flags at this stage development, and I hope to clean them up one-by-one along the way.

Thank you again for your feedback.

 

[arobotbrain1]

Eh, I like it so far. Would like to see a bit more. Sure, there's some gameplay that could be smoother, but it's playable. I'll be watching for more from this one.

 

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Played the entire Demo and it still has several bugs. Starting with bug 1, you can repeat your first quest just to get money, once complete if you choose to take it again you instantly get rewarded another 240 gold baring the experience. Bug 2, tried to fight these red root looking dude and combat for my character was locked, could only send an ally to attack. Bug 3, all peeking scenes became locked also in the same area as the red root dudes. Not sure if Kota's libido limit is 3 or more but every third turn he would one get his libido maxed and every third turn prior that, without release, they would stack. Also trading and using items on allies is kind of wonky for now, not sure if it works or not and can't tell what an ally holds. Alpha quest and Apothecary quest are locked, can start but not finish them. Highly recommend a Return to Town choice as to avoid similar future problems, other wise an old save will be needed.

That being said, like I mentioned, the peeking scenes get locked out so my gallery goes scenes 1,2,5 then the camp scenes. Not sure if all scenes are available or not as this is a Demo. The art could be better but as it is it stills gets its message across its good for a Demo.

Looking forward to future updates and what else the game holds in future content.

I'll look into those bugs.

Kota's libido increases at every turn except when he is released. It will decrease by 3 when released, which means it can stack as intended.
Items are definitely wonky because I haven't tested them out that much. I'll look into that as well.
Alpha and apothecary quests are intentionally locked. The purpose of those quests is to act as red-herring.
You can return to the town by selecting "Options"->"Return to the hub".

In terms of scenes, you can unlock up to limited scenes in each chapter (not stages). If you are in Greensvale area, I believe you can unlock up to 3 scenes. You have to move North camp in order to unlock more scenes.

 

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How femdom heavy is this?

In the future 3rd major release,

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As of now, there are small hints in dialogues, but no explicit scenes of femdom. will add more in the future for sure.

 

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I completed the public version and got Kota and sabina's scenes. I thought that there would be both Nestor AND Kota's POV in the gallery? I only see Nestor's.

Also, Is camping with a girl the only way to raise bond? Talking seems to do nothing.

Nestor's POV will unlock if you "corrupt" Ferra before saving Gilliard.
Also, I believe the latest patch (v1.1.3) lets you bonds with the girls but talking to them in each quest. You have to talk to them once (you will see unique dialogue) and complete that quest.

 

[Binklee]

Looks like if summer sweepers was made by netoria tactics based on the preview. Is that on base?

 

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Looks like if summer sweepers was made by netoria tactics based on the preview. Is that on base?

It defintiely is. I explicitly said that in my devlog and itch.io. Glad you notice.

 

[FightingFalcon]

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trying to play this on a 3440x1440 monitor be like

I'm experiencing the same thing. You're not alone.

 

[IncognitoUser]

Any full save?

 

[Chris2041]

Nestor's POV will unlock if you "corrupt" Ferra before saving Gilliard.
Also, I believe the latest patch (v1.1.3) lets you bonds with the girls but talking to them in each quest. You have to talk to them once (you will see unique dialogue) and complete that quest.

Thats the only scene that i unlock and some talks theres more scenes my gallery is really empty and also he the first scene fucks her already there isnt some foreplay or i miss some inportant scene ?

 

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Thats the only scene that i unlock and some talks theres more scenes my gallery is really empty and also he the first scene fucks her already there isnt some foreplay or i miss some inportant scene ?

You most likely missed them. When Kota approaches the girls, try to "peek". If you miss 3 times, the scene counter moves on to the next one meaning that, you missed your chance of seeing that scene in that playthrough. It's the nature of the game that induces the chance of player being oblivious.

 

[Firaxius]

ok so I am initially quite intruiged in the premise and the first looks, but I gotta ask... is NTR unavoidable? As in, from the player's perspective, will you always be the cuck (whether oblivious or no)? cause that's a dealbreaker for me.

Not sure all NTR is avoidable, but basicly you have to be always standing next the girl when Kota is horny for that girl and Interrupt him, it can be tricky as once you move and the girl move away from you it still can happen. Another methode is to use the potion to reduce Kota's horniness, but that is kinda costy to use and not easy to get. Or you could order Kota each to move to other area's away from the girls. To see scenes involving NTR it practicaly the same, stand next the girl when Kota horny and you can peek on them, aslong the girl stay next you.

When Kota has S on his head he goes for Sabina, when F he goes for Ferra, but if you don't interrupt or peek on them you will miss scenes and it will continue on to next scenes, it all depend being in the right place at the right time.

 

[ItsDaBoy22]

YOOOOOOO THIS IS LIKE FIRE EMBLEM I LOVE IT. Im already excited to see where this goes in the future

 

[LordFrz]

• I've realized that "tagging" has become a source of many misunderstandings and arguments here on F(%zone and similar forum. I'm relatively new to this so I wasn't sure what to tag or what not to tag. If I tag too much, it becomes gimmicky. But if I don't tag enough, people complain about not having warnings or appropriate tags.

Tagging is definitely hard to get right. I for one avoid any game that has a ton of tags, if it's just a wall of tags it comes off as trying to hit as many fetishes as possible. This is not an image site, it's a game site, just because 1 side character has big tits does not mean I want to see a big tits tag on it.

But then you get people complaining over such small things so I see the issue there.

My biggest concern is the NTR tag, I am a big netorare enjoyer, but right now the site does not have the tags implemented to tell me which type of NTR the game has. While that feature is in the works until then it's best to explain how you have added NTR to the game.

Is it mostly just peeking at the other guy fucking the girls, are you stealing the girls, or do you get your girl stolen.

For example, if the childhood friend is getting nailed by the chad. Does the MC watch that? And if he is watching that does he know it's the girl he is crushing on? And if he does, does he enjoy it or is he upset?

Im gonna give the game ago and find out, but thats something that is good to know before hand with a complex tag like NTR. And can be hard to explain the situation without spoilering too.


EDIT: After downloading it I see the tag abbreviations, lol. So I can expect BSS. Thats good to know. lol Not generally something I care for, but Ill give the game and a couple updates a go to see if its to my liking. BSS just tends to have too weak of a connection with the MC/Girls for me, but can sometimes be done well.

 

[LordFrz]

I dont like the engine. I get that you can full screen with F4, but it messes up my desktop since it's changing my screen resolution instead of the actual window size. This is tech used in rpgmvxace. We are not still on windows xp, use modern solutions please. And its is streching the image anyways, so its going to be pretty poor resolution on a modern monitor. And the fact that the sprite window is even smaller is kind of a pretty hard sell here man. Maybe if I was on mobile it would feel better?

The text sound is very annoying. Text does not need a sound effect for each letter.

The girl being a friend who you lost touch with is a big downside for me. But I suppose if this is BSS it tracks. For me to enjoy this you would need to build the relationship up with the girl before any NTR had any impact.

Got to the alpha wolf quest and had no way to get to him, unlike with the flower that let me climb, my only options are to wait. I assume it's a bug, or I missed somthin. I am also not a fan of the Peek,interupt,ignore aspect. Just loses all meaning when you give me those option. But for BSS I guess it fits. I'll come back after a few updates and give this another try then. I will wait to rate until its get a few updates and fixes some bugs.

Love the concept, but this engine sucks ass. Its not 2009 anymore. Was this SRPG? Cause its kinda dirt. You can just port everything over to rpgm or use a prebuilt template for godot or gamemaker (I really dont know why more people dont just use one of these). Does Srpg not support better resolutions or borderless stretching?

Now I get it if you just want to finish with this game in this engine, but I would suggest to not make it too long. And for the next game use a better engine.

Otherwise maybe look for addons or scipts to make things a bit more modern, like auto pathing so I can just use my mouse to move. Or change the controls with keybord to be better. Such as backing out should also be usable with right control or numpad0/INS. That way I can just use my arrow keys with 1 hand. (Its a porn game after all) (;

Ill definitely come check back in after a few updates, I think the bugs I ran into spoiled any enjoyment, but I'll give it a chance after those are fixed.

 

[Deepfaceboy]

ntr optional, or is the story just about watching your best friend fuck women?

 

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I dont like the engine. I get that you can full screen with F4, but it messes up my desktop since it's changing my screen resolution instead of the actual window size. This is tech used in rpgmvxace. We are not still on windows xp, use modern solutions please. And its is streching the image anyways, so its going to be pretty poor resolution on a modern monitor. And the fact that the sprite window is even smaller is kind of a pretty hard sell here man. Maybe if I was on mobile it would feel better?
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Love the concept, but this engine sucks ass. Its not 2009 anymore. Was this SRPG? Cause its kinda dirt. You can just port everything over to rpgm or use a prebuilt template for godot or gamemaker (I really dont know why more people dont just use one of these). Does Srpg not support better resolutions or borderless stretching?

Now I get it if you just want to finish with this game in this engine, but I would suggest to not make it too long. And for the next game use a better engine.

With no game development and little programming background, I originally started the project with pygame (cuz that's the only programming language that I knew). I stumbled upon Netoria Tactics (which uses SRPG studio engine), and decided to give it a shot. I've looked into the issue of the resolution and it seems like a hard/impossible fix for this engine. So that is unfortunate. My plan is to move away from SRPG to something else, which requires me to learn a new platform. I don't mind but it might take time. So this is not getting fixed anytime soon.

Otherwise maybe look for addons or scipts to make things a bit more modern, like auto pathing so I can just use my mouse to move. Or change the controls with keybord to be better. Such as backing out should also be usable with right control or numpad0/INS. That way I can just use my arrow keys with 1 hand. (Its a porn game after all) (;

I'll look into it.

The text sound is very annoying. Text does not need a sound effect for each letter.

This will be removed in v.1.1.4

The girl being a friend who you lost touch with is a big downside for me. But I suppose if this is BSS it tracks. For me to enjoy this you would need to build the relationship up with the girl before any NTR had any impact.

At this stage of the game, there is no obvious NTR.

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Got to the alpha wolf quest and had no way to get to him, unlike with the flower that let me climb, my only options are to wait. I assume it's a bug, or I missed somthin. I am also not a fan of the Peek,interupt,ignore aspect. Just loses all meaning when you give me those option. But for BSS I guess it fits. I'll come back after a few updates and give this another try then. I will wait to rate until its get a few updates and fixes some bugs.

The alpha wolf quest is an intended red-herring. It was there just to throw people off. The way to eliminate the alpha wolf is

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The peek, interrupt,ignore aspect is defintiely not everyone cup of tea. I got inspired by "Summer Sweepers", so I'm going to honor the dev by keeping that aspect in my game.


Thank you for your kind and constructive feedback.

 

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ntr optional, or is the story just about watching your best friend fuck women?

The canonical storyline is NTR. But you can play so that it's not NTR. I won't try to sell the game as NTR optional. I'll say it's non-NTR optional if one tries going for that route.

 

[justinking]

I apparently am missing alot of scenes. I only missed maybe 2 chances to peek. Anyone got the gallery unlocked?

 

[LordFrz]

The alpha wolf quest is an intended red-herring. It was there just to throw people off. The way to eliminate the alpha wolf is

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The peek, interrupt,ignore aspect is defintiely not everyone cup of tea. I got inspired by "Summer Sweepers", so I'm going to honor the dev by keeping that aspect in my game.

Thanks, for the wolf quest I did just that, but nothing happened, and I could not leave the map. I was only able to continue moving around and waiting.

And yea, the ignore/peek stuff is not to my preference, but the game is not tailored to me so it's no big deal. I'm still interested to see how things go, since the overall premise is definitely good.

Good luck.