Others NekoNTR [v0.0.13] [nekoaddict]
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Hopefully this gets past all the noise to the creator to tell them I like the direction the NTS content was going. The vibe I got from it was that MC is simply more of a knowing participant in Vanilla's ride, rather than being left out of the picture, and that's perfectly fine by me. As, rather than having Vanilla do a bunch of the stuff she's doing off screen, I'd rather she do it in a way that the MC is able to witness it or even encourage it. I hope the negativity hasn't turned them off of the route.
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Definitely not - the only negativity I've seen around the route is 'entitled negativity' where it's just people whining about the route not being exactly what they think NTS is or should be. Surprise, the NTS route in a game called NekoNTR isn't all sunshine and rainbows. It's just called the 'NTS route' because that's the easiest thing to call it (and well, by definition, it is NTS) - it's really an NTR 'what-if' route where like you said instead of being left in the dark MC starts to get glimpses of the kind of girl Vanilla is becoming and becomes more of an active participant in Vanilla's corruption.
I dunno why some people have such clear-drawn lines about NTR/NTS - to me cheating is such a big gray area that can be explored in essentially infinite ways that it's a bit silly to act all entitled as if your interpretation of the genre is the only correct interpretation and no writer is allowed to explore the ideas in any other way xD
Saying that though the NTS route will be taking a pause - not because of the entitled people but just because 1) better to get further in the NTR route first, then go back and take a look at the 'what-if' NTS side of things and 2) doing both routes simultaneously to their highest-quality is impossible for me
AdmiralTaihou
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I usually just lurk around here, but I’ve been really vibing with the game for a while now and always look forward to the updates. I’m subbed to the Patreon because I’m a huge fan of the direction you're taking.
Honestly, I don't get why some people are being so hostile and entitled about the pacing. Sure, the "open relationship" aspects aren't fully front and center yet, but you’d have to be totally oblivious not to see that Neko is building toward that naturally. In the current NTS route, the dynamic between Vanilla and the MC is clear, she’s gradually introducing the idea that seeing her enjoy herself with others (right now, toys) is something he can actually get behind. It’s an obvious setup for future stuff with the rest of the cast, whether that's Darren, Daiki, Noah or hey, maybe someone new.
I think the people complaining are just used to those "instant gratification" games where the partner has zero personality and cheats immediately for no reason. There’s no build-up or moral conflict in those; it’s just mindless.
I’m really glad you aren't letting the negativity get to you, Neko. I can't wait to see what’s coming in the next update. This is the only game in the genre that actually gives me those genuine butterflies that I just don't get anywhere else.
Keep rocking, I'm eagerly waiting.
Honestly, I don't get why some people are being so hostile and entitled about the pacing. Sure, the "open relationship" aspects aren't fully front and center yet, but you’d have to be totally oblivious not to see that Neko is building toward that naturally. In the current NTS route, the dynamic between Vanilla and the MC is clear, she’s gradually introducing the idea that seeing her enjoy herself with others (right now, toys) is something he can actually get behind. It’s an obvious setup for future stuff with the rest of the cast, whether that's Darren, Daiki, Noah or hey, maybe someone new.
I think the people complaining are just used to those "instant gratification" games where the partner has zero personality and cheats immediately for no reason. There’s no build-up or moral conflict in those; it’s just mindless.
I’m really glad you aren't letting the negativity get to you, Neko. I can't wait to see what’s coming in the next update. This is the only game in the genre that actually gives me those genuine butterflies that I just don't get anywhere else.
Keep rocking, I'm eagerly waiting.
I hate NTS. I like NTR because it's cheating, once there is permission I lose interest because it's no longer taboo, the girl isn't a slut giving in to her sexual desires, she's doing what her boyfriend wants her to do. Lame!
Of course there exists a large grey area and blurred lines between NTS/NTR and that I can kind of enjoy. Like if the girl convinces a reluctant boyfriend to give her permission to sleep around...that is kind of halfway between NTR/NTS. Just one example of many.
Of course there exists a large grey area and blurred lines between NTS/NTR and that I can kind of enjoy. Like if the girl convinces a reluctant boyfriend to give her permission to sleep around...that is kind of halfway between NTR/NTS. Just one example of many.
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NTS is way better than NTR. The dynamic that's able to be explored, finding what boundaries can be pushed for the enjoyment of both. NTS supremacy >>
WhoKnowsWhere
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Exactly.
Imagine people telling fantasy authors what fantasy is and what the boundaries of this genre are. Ridiculous.
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To be fair the boundaries are tied to the terms themselves. Nts requires consent from both involved parties, its the corner stone of the genre. Anything behind one parties back is not consent and not nts. If the route was labeled as both ntr/nts its might be different and would be more upfront. A simple disclaimer that the nts route is still an ntr route, or rather a hybrid route, would solve everything. Open transparency is a devs first tool for fans/potential fans.
That's a more western definition of the genre. Or how nts mainly happens in western games/stories.
From all I read before, nts (originally) is mainly about the cuck getting sexual gratification from their partner having sex with others. It can be consensual, but doesn't have to.
-Where is this definition of NTS from? Can you provide some on-forum description of what exactly the genre has to contain?
Just repeating this over and over, doesn't make it true.
As far as I'm aware, NTS means being aroused by cheating, it's that simple.
-Where did the author mislead you?
You misunderstanding what they wrote does not count...
From what I've read, they've given a clear impresion of what the NTS route will be like.
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Nts isnt cheating, thats not what it means. Its consensual. Cheating is not consensual.
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Its always involved consent. If its not consensual its ntr. Literally even by original definition. Its what the "ase" part of netorase means.
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AdmiralTaihou
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I, sincerely, do not understand why it is difficult to comprehend the following:
Is it, really, that hard to comprehend?
The dev is clearly using semantic-ish versioning to depict the work-in-progress-ness of the novel. There is clear intent behind the actions of what is already available in the Netorase route that everything seems to lead to a fully fledged Netorase experience in the future. The author herself has confirmed this is indeed the intent, but again, it is a work-in-progress with the content leading to it already inside.
Is it that the game tags on the top show 'swinging' when one could consider the swinging only happens in some dream scenes to a degree? Because if that's it, the tags on the front post do not. Heck, every two-three games for every ten you scroll past could be considered to be false advertising as their v0.1.0 barely has 1% of the expected/announced content (yet we hype the devs and don't moan about it, because more games = more fun).
Work-in-progress.
- This is a work-in-progress game.
- It will eventually have a full Netorase route.
- It is not "fully there" because it is a work-in-progress.
Is it, really, that hard to comprehend?
The dev is clearly using semantic-ish versioning to depict the work-in-progress-ness of the novel. There is clear intent behind the actions of what is already available in the Netorase route that everything seems to lead to a fully fledged Netorase experience in the future. The author herself has confirmed this is indeed the intent, but again, it is a work-in-progress with the content leading to it already inside.
Is it that the game tags on the top show 'swinging' when one could consider the swinging only happens in some dream scenes to a degree? Because if that's it, the tags on the front post do not. Heck, every two-three games for every ten you scroll past could be considered to be false advertising as their v0.1.0 barely has 1% of the expected/announced content (yet we hype the devs and don't moan about it, because more games = more fun).
Work-in-progress.
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Guys, I think this fuss about definition of genres shall stop, before this thread gets a warning, like it happens in such cases.
AdmiralTaihou
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NekoNTR is compelling because it is largely about the needs, desires, and feelings of the woman in the relationship, which is contrary to basically all other NTR games who somehow make it about the sexual gratification of the cuck and his feelings, through his emasculation, voyeurism, insecurities, fear of black people, sexual inadequeacy, etc. Little to no NTR/NTS games have heroines with real interiorities, and are simply a canvas for the reader's anxieties for them to get off to. It's really telling that they call it "sharing" as if women were property. I think a lot of the NTS complaints come largely because the audience of cuckold themed powerpoint presentations is men who want to be the center of focus and attention, and cannot deal with the lack of control over women that is otherwise standard in these games.
I really wish there was a term or genre for non-monogamous themed stuff that isn't entirely focused on the men involved, because in 9/10 doujinshi, art, games, stories, captions, etc, it is about how it feels to watch your girlfriend touch other people, or how other people feel touching her, and not how she feels touching other people. It might genuinely be the only cheating porn on earth that passes the bechdel test. It's auteur kino. It's art. It's among the only things that manages the insane repression I feel trying not to cheat on people despite everything in my body telling me that it's what I want to do, no matter how irrational, destructive, and cruel it is; and no matter how loved, respected, and supported I am. Never submit to the horde of self centered men! Unless, of course, you have a boyfriend
I really wish there was a term or genre for non-monogamous themed stuff that isn't entirely focused on the men involved, because in 9/10 doujinshi, art, games, stories, captions, etc, it is about how it feels to watch your girlfriend touch other people, or how other people feel touching her, and not how she feels touching other people. It might genuinely be the only cheating porn on earth that passes the bechdel test. It's auteur kino. It's art. It's among the only things that manages the insane repression I feel trying not to cheat on people despite everything in my body telling me that it's what I want to do, no matter how irrational, destructive, and cruel it is; and no matter how loved, respected, and supported I am. Never submit to the horde of self centered men! Unless, of course, you have a boyfriend
While I can agree with you about NTS and focus on what Male MC wants in such scenario and his emotions, I am kinda confused about NTR part. We are playing same games? Because in most cases there are a lot of Female MCs PoV in NTR games, if it's not fully centered about them.NekoNTR is compelling because it is largely about the needs, desires, and feelings of the woman in the relationship, which is contrary to basically all other NTR games who somehow make it about the sexual gratification of the cuck and his feelings, through his emasculation, voyeurism, insecurities, fear of black people, sexual inadequeacy, etc. Little to no NTR/NTS games have heroines with real interiorities, and are simply a canvas for the reader's anxieties for them to get off to. It's really telling that they call it "sharing" as if women were property. I think a lot of the NTS complaints come largely because the audience of cuckold themed powerpoint presentations is men who want to be the center of focus and attention, and cannot deal with the lack of control over women that is otherwise standard in these games.
I really wish there was a term or genre for non-monogamous themed stuff that isn't entirely focused on the men involved, because in 9/10 doujinshi, art, games, stories, captions, etc, it is about how it feels to watch your girlfriend touch other people, or how other people feel touching her, and not how she feels touching other people. It might genuinely be the only cheating porn on earth that passes the bechdel test. It's auteur kino. It's art. It's among the only things that manages the insane repression I feel trying not to cheat on people despite everything in my body telling me that it's what I want to do, no matter how irrational, destructive, and cruel it is; and no matter how loved, respected, and supported I am. Never submit to the horde of self centered men! Unless, of course, you have a boyfriend
I actually really like NTR games precisely because of how they show shame, emotions, frustration, needs, corruption and most importantly changes of fmc, despite her feelings to mmc. In most cases mmc doesn't have any personality at all, because fmc is the main focus. I have read a lot of doujinshi, were mmc appears in first two panels and then disappeares until the end, and tho I thinks this is a garbage way to do NTR, it's pretty much shows that in NTR mmc feelings are not that important, especially if mc have no clues about what is happening under his nose (which is what NTR is in most cases, because otherwise he will have to deal with it which leads to NTS or the end of the story).
So I don't understand what are you even talking about with 9/10 stuff, if it's not true at all and actually opposite. NTS? Yes, in many examples of it fmc just works as a sex-doll so mmc could feed his fetish, but in NTR you don't even need mmc for it to work, and games where you play as a fmc show it perfectly.