MoMe1234

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He seems like a good guy, and Vanilla is being pretty awful
MC deserves a good tradwife!
Well, I made him borrow money from her, and I hate the guys who borrow money for unnecessary things, and then lie about it.
He borrowed money from her, not out of love, but out of selfish need, and then wrapped it all in lies.
If MC can lie so easily, then no, he doesn’t deserve a heart as gentle as a tradwife’s.
Yes, Vanilla did lie too, but hers was a soft lie, the kind born not of malice, but of fear… of hope… of wanting to hold on to something slipping away.
She walks through the storm with eyes half-open, swept by the current, never fully grasping the chaos around her.
And yet, while you rush to defend MC, you cast stones at Vanilla.
Don’t be so quick to judge the girl with a trembling voice and a quiet heart
she is innocent, she is lost, and above all, she is pure.
 
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Well, I made him borrow money from her, and I hate the guys who borrow money for unnecessary things, and then lie about it.
He borrowed money from her, not out of love, but out of selfish need, and then wrapped it all in lies.
If MC can lie so easily, then no, he doesn’t deserve a heart as gentle as a tradwife’s.
Yes, Vanilla did lie too, but hers was a soft lie, the kind born not of malice, but of fear… of hope… of wanting to hold on to something slipping away.
She walks through the storm with eyes half-open, swept by the current, never fully grasping the chaos around her.
And yet, while you rush to defend MC, you cast stones at Vanilla.
Don’t be so quick to judge the girl with a trembling voice and a quiet heart
she is innocent, she is lost, and above all, she is pure.
Well, it was really word-heavy excuse for Vanilla. Don't get me wrong she IS innocent, but through the game she gained considerable amount of contex about her recent actions. She even feels like she is doing something wrong, but it all falls under her "I like it". It's not wrong to like something, even bad things, but you should be honest with yourself towards this needs. But her? She is trying to find any possible way to justify her discovered cravings. She thinks that MC might be into it, and he might be, but as a player we have a way to choice not to like it, and brush it off like intrusive thoughts (For example, I fucking hate cheating in real life, but the way it represented in porn? That's very hot). So, what's the point of her, "Maybe he is into it?", when she will face reality of NTR route? (Honestly I am ready to explode from excitement to see this scenario progressing).

A lot of this was, is, and will be the cause of her environment's influence: all this gaslighting from her " friends" and bad examples from them having very, very heavy toll on her mind. But it's not the excuse to do so, and to be silent about it with the one and only love you have, as she trying to prove everywhere... Or is it one and only?

All in all, Vanilla and MC both did bad decisions, but ignoring Vanilla's doings and saying "she is lost, she is pure" and blaming now MC for all sins, when he just borrowed money from Vanilla to watch OnlyFans (which, actually, is not a big deal, even tho it presented as a "lie" - he is not meeting those girls), is a huge mistake. She fucked up, and MC, who is fucking blind to his gf's state, is fucked up too, so they shall both face their mistakes to fix their relationships or turn it into NTS (which is the only way at this point, lmao), otherwise it will be our long awaited full NTR route.
 

MoMe1234

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Well, it was really word-heavy excuse for Vanilla. Don't get me wrong she IS innocent, but through the game she gained considerable amount of contex about her recent actions. She even feels like she is doing something wrong, but it all falls under her "I like it". It's not wrong to like something, even bad things, but you should be honest with yourself towards this needs. But her? She is trying to find any possible way to justify her discovered cravings. She thinks that MC might be into it, and he might be, but as a player we have a way to choice not to like it, and brush it off like intrusive thoughts (For example, I fucking hate cheating in real life, but the way it represented in porn? That's very hot). So, what's the point of her, "Maybe he is into it?", when she will face reality of NTR route? (Honestly I am ready to explode from excitement to see this scenario progressing).

A lot of this was, is, and will be the cause of her environment's influence: all this gaslighting from her " friends" and bad examples from them having very, very heavy toll on her mind. But it's not the excuse to do so, and to be silent about it with the one and only love you have, as she trying to prove everywhere... Or is it one and only?

All in all, Vanilla and MC both did bad decisions, but ignoring Vanilla's doings and saying "she is lost, she is pure" and blaming now MC for all sins, when he just borrowed money from Vanilla to watch OnlyFans (which, actually, is not a big deal, even tho it presented as a "lie" - he is not meeting those girls), is a huge mistake. She fucked up, and MC, who is fucking blind to his gf's state, is fucked up too, so they shall both face their mistakes to fix their relationships or turn it into NTS (which is the only way at this point, lmao), otherwise it will be our long awaited full NTR route.
I get where you’re coming from, and you’re right. Both Vanilla and the MC made bad decisions. But the difference isn’t just in what they did, it’s in why they did it, and the context around their choices.

The MC didn’t just lie to watch OnlyFans—it’s not about the content, it’s about the dishonesty. He used her trust to cover up a selfish action, and instead of being honest about his needs or struggles, he chose deception. That’s not harmless just because it’s digital.

Vanilla, on the other hand, made a series of poor choices that started from a very real and relatable place: financial pressure and social influence. She was naive, yes, but that naivety got exploited by a new environment that encouraged secrecy, emotional detachment, and performative self-worth. She didn’t fully understand what she was stepping into.

You’re absolutely right that she’s starting to justify her actions and that’s a very human reaction. People often try to rationalize behavior that conflicts with their values. That doesn’t excuse it, but it shows she’s in a psychological conflict, not acting purely out of malice or selfishness.

What makes this story compelling is that neither of them is truly innocent or truly corrupt. MC is blind to the emotional reality of his partner, and Vanilla is overwhelmed by a world she doesn’t yet understand. They’re both pretending. Both avoiding.

If anything, I’d like to see a route where honest confrontation is possible, not just sliding into NTR or some nihilistic collapse, but showing what happens when two flawed people actually face what they’ve become.
 

kristo0086

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I get where you’re coming from, and you’re right. Both Vanilla and the MC made bad decisions. But the difference isn’t just in what they did, it’s in why they did it, and the context around their choices.

The MC didn’t just lie to watch OnlyFans—it’s not about the content, it’s about the dishonesty. He used her trust to cover up a selfish action, and instead of being honest about his needs or struggles, he chose deception. That’s not harmless just because it’s digital.

Vanilla, on the other hand, made a series of poor choices that started from a very real and relatable place: financial pressure and social influence. She was naive, yes, but that naivety got exploited by a new environment that encouraged secrecy, emotional detachment, and performative self-worth. She didn’t fully understand what she was stepping into.

You’re absolutely right that she’s starting to justify her actions and that’s a very human reaction. People often try to rationalize behavior that conflicts with their values. That doesn’t excuse it, but it shows she’s in a psychological conflict, not acting purely out of malice or selfishness.

What makes this story compelling is that neither of them is truly innocent or truly corrupt. MC is blind to the emotional reality of his partner, and Vanilla is overwhelmed by a world she doesn’t yet understand. They’re both pretending. Both avoiding.

If anything, I’d like to see a route where honest confrontation is possible, not just sliding into NTR or some nihilistic collapse, but showing what happens when two flawed people actually face what they’ve become.
Very good. I'm expecting a detailed psychological analysis of the characters by Monday.
 

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Feels a bit early to immediately go into netorase stuff given how early we are in the corruption so if I'm going to guess I'd just assume by netorase it's probably gonna be more MC finding out about the Onlyfans and telling her he's ok with it with maybe some teasing about what she's doing on it.
 
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Spartacul

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God this game was so good, I actually found myself love this kind of stuff

Is there other good games like this ?

Or maybe the developer has made other ones before ?
 

Htoon

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God this game was so good, I actually found myself love this kind of stuff

Is there other good games like this ?

Or maybe the developer has made other ones before ?
This has to be bait right? There's a lot of them, I believe at least 20ish.

This is my favourite one, but netorase phone (one long story, that's netorase like the name says), NTR phone (a variety of shorter-ish stories), and phone behind bars (two connected stories (your wife and your step daughter & her friend)) are also good.

*There might be more ''good ones'' I just haven't played everything.
 
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Wagafuzz

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God this game was so good, I actually found myself love this kind of stuff

Is there other good games like this ?

Or maybe the developer has made other ones before ?
Netorase phone and NTR Mobile are my favorites along with this one. Never been into ntr/nts stuff but the stories are fun.
 

Raferu

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This has to be bait right? There's a lot of them, I believe at least 20ish.

This is my favourite one, but netorase phone (one long story, that's netorase like the name says), NTR phone (a variety of shorter-ish stories), and phone behind bars (two connected stories (your wife and your step daughter & her friend)) are also good.

*There might be more ''good ones'' I just haven't played everything.
Phone behind bars has a lot of content hidden behind a paywall, and the leaked codes no longer work. Other than that, the main story is heavily focused on mystery and teasing, which isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I think it's done well in that game.
 

Htoon

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He asked for recomendations, so I named games I like.
But I don't think discussing the flaws and merits of other games on this thread is appropriate?
 

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maybe an idea to zip the file next time. a lot of antiviruses goes ballistics when an exe file is downloaded raw.
 

Kenji endo

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Having completed all the content so far, I can say that the MC will do better as a femboy.
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Joking aside, I really enjoyed the content; the effort behind it is noticeable. It would be nice if it had more routes or variations, but even without that, it still seemed pretty good to me, and I'm looking forward to the next update.

(Sorry for using a translator, but I liked the game and wanted to comment.)
 

Htoon

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Routes and variations come with a lot of downsides though.
And "replayability" that is sometimes cited as an "upside" for more variations doesn't seem to hold true for text-based NTR games, and just ends up being a hassle. Since people would prefer to just do their route, but still want to unlock everything in the gallery.
Well, that opinion is based on reading posts on the threads of these games, no idea if it's actually true or if there's just a bias as to what makes people write on here.
 

SisconM

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MC deserves a good tradwife!
It'd be hilarious if it's revealed that this is actually a direct fanfic of Nekopara instead of the heavily "borrowed" or modified setting and MC is just happily banging the other catgirls like her sister Chocola.

Lot of NTR jumps right into the cuckoldry narrative, and I think you lose something with that. itd be nice for one to stick with the cheating narrative as the focus, I think
I feel like this happens more often on first person stories because the authors need to find an easy way to show more to the player else the MC's PoV will get boring. Either that or they just need to create an easy excuse for the MC not leaving/confronting after peeking/finding out about the cheating.

For third person stories it can either be a cheap way to prevent drama("and then they lived cuckily ever after"), or the author ran out of ways to corrupt the girl so they start corrupting the "couple" as a whole. You can only power scale sex to a certain extent unless you transcend logic and get REALLY freaky like John K Peta. Usually isn't an issue if the story is nicely paced out and the author doesn't run out of steps to escalate the situation.

Considering this game has the girl's PoV, it can go either way(cuck or cheat), though the main game will shift toward the girl's PoV more and more in the case of a pure cheating route (I guess the MC can also be guilty of "cheating" by being an OF simp so it's like two almost separate adventures).
 
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