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Actually we only have 1 true NTS story which is Annie.
Bruh I am playing Mai and the dude is telling her 'noooo babe you don't have small boobies they are perfect, pls go fuck this man, you can do it i believe in you' the most Netorase protag ever. Netorase the protags are basically homosexual men with plutonic girlfriends. I hate playing as them lol
 

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NTR is nonconsensual cheating...
No, it's not. NTR describes situations where the protagonist has anxiety surrounding nonmonogamy. Situations where a character agrees for their partner to have sex with someone else, then later regrets it, or experiences unintended consequences from it (like the character's partner falling for the new sex partner), would also fall into this category, yet would not be considered cheating.
 
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Its not a community written project lol. I just ask them what themes they want to see. You can refer to our old polls on Patreon. It's just theme tags like "innocent", "tomboy" etc... and some pictures of potential girl directions. Nothing beyond that. I've had many people try to hijack story telling (they were being nice about what they like to see but persistent). I maintain creative control.
It's nice to see a dev active on here, but careful.. this is still a pirate site filled with people that just WANT a quick, free wank and then move on to the next.

I suggest not to burn yourself too much...
 

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Videos don't work for me and Lily's story just stops progressing after Lisa says Dan has something he wants to talk to her about. No message about the end of current content either, I'm pretty sure there's supposed to be more but both Lisa and Dan just stop sending messages.

Any ideas as to what's going wrong?
Same here. Lily's story is bugged.
 

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No, it's not. NTR describes situations where the protagonist has anxiety surrounding nonmonogamy. Situations where a character agrees for their partner to have sex with someone else, then later regrets it, or experiences unintended consequences from it (like the character's partner falling for the new sex partner), would also fall into this category, yet would not be considered cheating.
You literally are describing cheating, but keeping the appearance of not by not finishing your own hypothetical examples.

If a protag asks his partner to cheat, then regrets it that alone is not NTR if the story just ends with his partner agreeing to stop and respect his change of feelings about sharing her, that's just a happy vanilla ending. She respects his wishes /scene.

However you are alluding to the story continuing as you mention 'consequences' like 'falling in love' so...finish your own example. What would one expect in this situation? Protag asks her to sleep around, she does, protag decides he doesn't want her too anymore, but she...keeps going, that's now cheating and proving my point.

Thinking more about your bizarre take, not only is "nonconsensual cheating" redundant with NTR it's self redundant as well. Cheating is definitionally non consensual. 'Consensual cheating' would just swinging/sharing/NTS/Cuckoldry aka NOT cheating.
 
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You literally are describing cheating, but keeping the appearance of not by not finishing your own hypothetical examples.

If a protag asks his partner to cheat, then regrets it that alone is not NTR if the story just ends with his partner agreeing to stop and respect his change of feelings about sharing her, that's just a happy vanilla ending. She respects his wishes /scene.

However you are alluding to the story continuing as you mention 'consequences' like 'falling in love' so...finish your own example. What would one expect in this situation? Protag asks her to sleep around, she does, protag decides he doesn't want her too anymore, but she...keeps going, that's now cheating and proving my point.

Thinking more about your bizarre take, not only is "nonconsensual cheating" redundant with NTR it's self redundant as well. Cheating is definitionally non consensual. 'Consensual cheating' would just swinging/sharing/NTS/Cuckoldry aka NOT cheating.
Yea, after reading your posts it's pretty obvious you're just here trolling. Ignore button...go.
 

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No, it's not. NTR describes situations where the protagonist has anxiety surrounding nonmonogamy. Situations where a character agrees for their partner to have sex with someone else, then later regrets it, or experiences unintended consequences from it (like the character's partner falling for the new sex partner), would also fall into this category, yet would not be considered cheating.
This is a good definition. NTRPG2 for example had romantic interest but they were not officially together in any capacity. Cheating is the act that may or may not be present but the emotional wrench the player/MC feels by their love interest having sex with another is what makes it NTR. Cheating is often the most common vehicle it takes place under. However it can take place by other means. There are even NTR stories that focus on the reader/viewer's jealousy and don't have an in-universe MC.
 
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I think the issue with Neto games is that most writers don't know where to go with them. They are usually pretty shallow beyond the initial premise, like a Saturday Night Live sketch that starts strong but quickly overstays its welcome. It usually becomes a corruption game where the girlfriend/wife does increasingly more risque stuff while the developer rations out the escalation as long as possible because they know there will be a point where they can't push it any further and that will be the end of the game because there's no real story to conclude. If you only have one story, then you reach that end faster and either have an abandoned game (which makes people wary of investing in your game in the future) or a game with an abrupt, unsatisfying, ending. If you have 5 stories, you can pad out the game for longer before everyone realizes that the emperor has no clothes.
Thank you for the explanation, but TBO, I still find the definition of NTR elusive after reading your post, perhaps as you stated: the definition is subjective to the reader. That's the reason why I suggest abandoning the confusing Jargon and using plain English instead.
 

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Cheating is often the most common vehicle it takes place under
So, F95 should at least add the tag NTS to stand for cuckolding, instead of confusing players by using NTR for both. Another intriguing aspect is that most Japanese NTR comics, where this concept originates, focus on the female POV, which presumably resonates less with male readers. such a confusing topic...
 

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NTR is nonconsensual cheating so that tag would be redundant.
Such a confusing topic, isn't it? In Japanese comics, the usual pattern is: the female MC is forced to have sex with the male villains, because of the husband's debt or wrongdoing, yada yada yada....then the female MC gradually become more submissive and clingy to the sexual pleasure brought by the villain, and finally becomes the male villain's sex ...slave or plaything? I don't know to what extent those comics represent the concept of NTR, but most of them are different from what we can find on this website, including POVs, narratives, and vibes.
 

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So, F95 should at least add the tag NTS to stand for cuckolding, instead of confusing players by using NTR for both. Another intriguing aspect is that most Japanese NTR comics, where this concept originates, focus on the female POV, which presumably resonates less with male readers. such a confusing topic...
In the past Netorase used to be a branch of NTR (or that's how I understood it). Today it's probably big/popular enough to have its own tag perhaps. Yes I totally agree. The definitions of what NTR means to someone is absolutely vague nowadays and only related to a feeling of betrayal and jealousy.
 

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Well, played Mai story till the end (party) with premium activated on an android device but no animation/video showed, even those showed in the OP of that thread.
Seems i'm not the only one.
Any reason, or any tip to unlock them ?
 

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Such a confusing topic, isn't it? In Japanese comics, the usual pattern is: the female MC is forced to have sex with the male villains, because of the husband's debt or wrongdoing, yada yada yada....then the female MC gradually become more submissive and clingy to the sexual pleasure brought by the villain, and finally becomes the male villain's sex ...slave or plaything? I don't know to what extent those comics represent the concept of NTR, but most of them are different from what we can find on this website, including POVs, narratives, and vibes.
So in your example, the NTR comes from the fear/anxiety around having a woman stolen by sexual means from the protag, rather than just a woman being sexually conquered or corrupted. It starts out forced, but eventually she likes it and then prefers the situation to the one she was in before with the protag. NTR is the anxiety (and confusing jealous arousal!) around the possibility of loss of sexual partners to other men.

I don't want to hijack this thread more than I have but it's actually an interesting intellectual rabbit hole to go down regarding something called Sperm Competition and the origin of why this is even a fetish for men.

To keep it simple: it is evolutionarily advantageous if a man upon suspecting that 'his' woman has had sex with a rival male reacts by actually wanting to breed with her more and immediately, rather than to feel disgust/anger and turn away from her. That way his 'sperm' can compete with any rivals that may be inside her...there is more to it, but it gets graphic and involves penis/teste size etc.

Recommending - NTR, netorare, cuckold - resources, discussion, development | F95zone | Adult Games | Comics | Mods | Cheats

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So in your example, the NTR comes from the fear/anxiety around having a woman stolen by sexual means from the protag, rather than just a woman being sexually conquered or corrupted. It starts out forced, but eventually she likes it and then prefers the situation to the one she was in before with the protag. NTR is the anxiety (and confusing arousal!) around the possibility of loss of sexual partners to other men.

I don't want to hijack this thread more than I have but it's actually an interesting intellectual rabbit hole to go down regarding something called Sperm Competition and the origin of why this is even a fetish for men.

To keep it simple: it is evolutionarily advantageous if a man upon suspecting that 'his' woman has had sex with a rival male to react by actually wanting to breed with her more and immediately, rather than to feel disgust/anger and turn away from her. That way his 'sperm' can compete with any rivals that may be inside her...there is more to it, but it gets graphic and involves penis/teste size etc.

Recommending - NTR, netorare, cuckold - resources, discussion, development | F95zone | Adult Games | Comics | Mods | Cheats

Any NTR fans are welcome here, devs come to share and discuss their games here sometimes as well. @ Kurotori
No, that is not my example. I was stating a fact: if you go to a website of Japanese comics and search NTR, 90% of the returned results would be as I described: female protagonist, forced sex, betrayal at last. Those comics seldom prioritise males at all; the legitimate male partners are usually used as background to increase the sense of guilt and thrill (from the female POV) in those comics. I am confused about NTR, I prefer to call those comics FPOV cheating. TBO, I don't know what NTR precisely is.
 
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Well, played Mai story till the end (party) with premium activated on an android device but no animation/video showed, even those showed in the OP of that thread.
Seems i'm not the only one.
Any reason, or any tip to unlock them ?
The 0.7.0 version has the 12 Annie images, the rest are in the next version (0.7.1).
 
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The type of Games where they try to make it too big to please everyones taste is sure to FAIL... Too many Stories, too many characters, too much work and slow updates we've all seen too many of it... developer will burnout in no time.. why can't they just stick to 1 girl or 2 and pour everything in that on every update. and if it catch on itll be ON FIRE... dont take this comment as hate but out of Love
 
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The type of Games where they try to make it too big to please everyones taste is sure to FAIL... Too many Stories, too many characters, too much work and slow updates we've all seen too many of it... developer will burnout in no time.. why can't they just stick to 1 girl or 2 and pour everything in that on every update. and if it catch on itll be ON FIRE... dont take this comment as hate but out of Love
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Edit: Also I dont write to "please everyone's taste", if I wanted to do that - I would clone Netorase Phone. I want to write stories that take the player on an adventure of themes and kinks and characters that are less common. It's my personal interest to write this way, nothing else.
 
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