Others NetoPhone Stories [v0.9.0] [KTRGames]

[Kurotori]

Are there such choices?
I tried to choose every option where Emma doesn't play along or cheats, and I don't think I saw anything like that
So I would pose a question back to you, if you played the game without knowing what each choice leads to, would you be able to find the route you want to see?

As a general criticism of the game, but way more so in this update, I think it's super hard to tell what each choice actually means and what it really leads to. and since there is no way to quickly replay a section to explore the other options, I doubt most people will actually try to see each route to figure it out.......

I know it's not an optimal solution, and probably a bit immersion breaking, but in Sexting My GF you have route icons on the choices, so it's quite clear when a choice is going NTR \ NTS \ Lover route
Not sure how you'll feel about adding something like that, but it could be really helpful in navigating the routes
Maybe consider adding something like this, but with a toggle in the options menu so people could decide if they wish to use it or not?

Yes I will add choice helpers soon. A game is meant to be enjoyable so those are the only places where immersion should generally be sacrificed. The only issue is I'll need to run around all the scripts and indicate what icon they use, which is okay! I'll try to squeeze it in.

 

[vampz]

Yes I will add choice helpers soon. A game is meant to be enjoyable so those are the only places where immersion should generally be sacrificed. The only issue is I'll need to run around all the scripts and indicate what icon they use, which is okay! I'll try to squeeze it in.

I'll have to see about that, probably when the next part is released

My main hope, and concern if I'm honest, is about the writing in this story, it really didn't feel as fleshed out like in June's story or Annie's story, or at least their newer renditions
Which is really my cause for concern, because I remember how Annie's story was originally, and it's a night and day difference, from a story that originally left me feeling kinda sick to becoming one of my favorite stories in any phone game
I'm just hoping Emma's story isn't going to need a rework to be palatable

Now, I want to state that I love this game (if it's somehow not obvious up to this point, especially with the fact it's one of 2 games I have in my signature), and I have seen exactly what you can do with stories, and how well you can write them
We'll just have to see how this story turns out, and try to figure out what works and what doesn't
Of course I hope it all works out well, but just saying, would be interesting to analyze it either way

 

[Kurotori]

Thanks for the reply Kuro!
I understand that about the choices, I always play all routes. I am a bit of a completionist .
I am probably in the minority that I play mainly for the story! and always found your game well written/planned out.
Emma's story just seems to be lacking so far.
It's the fact that there is no fleshing out of the characters/story, it's just porn game nonsense.
There's no conversation about wanting to share (like Annie) or wanting more experiences (like Mai), just, I really love you Austin, but I'm going to flash my cleavage and kiss a guy to get a tip or send you a photo of me nude on another guy's lap.
No explanation of how we got to this, no conversation about boundaries/sharing.
Austin, being nervous of even touching emma in public shouldn't even be in a hot spring with another girl without emma, never mind being ridden in a tent. How did it come to that? That's what is missing - knowledge. For us and them.

Hope I'm not ranting, I really love your game, like I said - It's the reason I made an account here, I never usually engage.
You are also the only Dev I support.

I just really want this game to succeed, not become another generic Phone game trope.
Best Wishes.

Every story is meant to explore a lot of different styles of character chemistry. Think doujins or erotic manga. You might find one that you think sounds appealing but flipping through the pages, you'll see its not exactly what you expected, and thats okay! I really don't expect people to be captured by EVERY story because they have very wildly different themes. Think for example what's going on between Emma an Austin is very different from what's going on between the Player and Mai.
As for the fleshing out bits, there's a lot going on that's not on the phone and it's mostly scribbles and story notes of how it gets there and it might sound lazy but not showing some of that is intentional. Annie reads like an open book because its a character driven story but Emma has a lot of internal turmoil and is more of an event driven story. So that's another point on why someone would prefer one over the other. There are people who dislike Annie but want more Emma (thought its generally an exception).

I consider all feedback as constructive as long as its not a one liner about how every story is "NTS". Those are the people you referred to as "its just porn game" and unfortunately not our target audience. There are some harsher criticisms that I've taken into account too regarding update loop and characters and I agree with them in general but there were a few reasons to this that will be explained on a big Patreon post I'm writing.

And as always, thank you for your support and feedback. <3

 

[Kurotori]

I'll have to see about that, probably when the next part is released

My main hope, and concern if I'm honest, is about the writing in this story, it really didn't feel as fleshed out like in June's story or Annie's story, or at least their newer renditions
Which is really my cause for concern, because I remember how Annie's story was originally, and it's a night and day difference, from a story that originally left me feeling kinda sick to becoming one of my favorite stories in any phone game
I'm just hoping Emma's story isn't going to need a rework to be palatable

Now, I want to state that I love this game (if it's somehow not obvious up to this point, especially with the fact it's one of 2 games I have in my signature), and I have seen exactly what you can do with stories, and how well you can write them
We'll just have to see how this story turns out, and try to figure out what works and what doesn't
Of course I hope it all works out well, but just saying, would be interesting to analyze it either way

Remember that Annie is mostly a 1 on 1 story so it's more about exploring her as a character and her depth and actions she's going through. It might be worthwhile exploring different mindsets one on one but as it stands currently, the only story that's dedicated to that is Annie. She's going to have her update not too far from now too. It'll likely be Mai, followed by Annie again.

If you preferred the NTR route for Emma, I think you might change your mind with update 2/2 in particular. The script is short and completed but it addresses the mental state you'd built up with your choices over the course of the game.

Emma won't be reworked but a lot of these stories are not going to be long and each one will hit an ending sooner so we can explore different kinds of storytelling. Once the current 4 are complete, I plan on doing a lot of surveying and polling over various elements and apply feedback response to a new batch of characters.

 

[vampz]

Remember that Annie is mostly a 1 on 1 story so it's more about exploring her as a character and her depth and actions she's going through. It might be worthwhile exploring different mindsets one on one but as it stands currently, the only story that's dedicated to that is Annie. She's going to have her update not too far from now too. It'll likely be Mai, followed by Annie again.

If you preferred the NTR route for Emma, I think you might change your mind with update 2/2 in particular. The script is short and completed but it addresses the mental state you'd built up with your choices over the course of the game.

Emma won't be reworked but a lot of these stories are not going to be long and each one will hit an ending sooner so we can explore different kinds of storytelling. Once the current 4 are complete, I plan on doing a lot of surveying and polling over various elements and apply feedback response to a new batch of characters.

I think I'll try the different routes for Emma once the next update is released

After reading your reply to Deathykins, I understand more about your intention with the story, with a lot of things happening behind the phone
Not sure if I'd say it's a great choice for a phone game story, but I guess we'll have to see about it

I'm not particularly a fan of NTR stories, though I'm of course willing to give them a try
From the few I've seen, there is usually some character that can serve as a conduit for reflecting the MCs feelings, because without something like that it feels like things are happening in a vacuum
Or to put it differently, NTR stories usually deal with the emotions of a character in a situation of cheating. not having those emotions expressed in the game kinda defeats the point of such a story, it just feels like a string of random events that happen for no reason or justification
So it might be a good idea to consider how the story is presented to the player, not based on how you wrote it in your head, but instead how it's read by a player that has no idea of your intentions, and can only experience what is actually told or shown in the game