VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.12.3] [Le Stag]

[Xill]

Because it's a game? And people typically like to have some sort of input into how things play out? Just like in real life, if you tell your girlfriend you're kinky, does that mean you have to be open to every kink possible?

The developer is just one person from what I understand. If you expect him to make so many different branches then you should expect the game to take much longer for each update.

 

[APeX_VeNoM]

Hey can anyone share the save file having all the gallery photos unlocked, because i replayed the game multiple times from the start still there are a few left I wanna unlock all.

If cant share the file atleast tell me how do I get all the pics and hidden ones too.

 

[luccel]

2nd round of these type of comments btw happened for update 7 i think? it went the same as last time a few people go make the game for me the dev responds with how hes going to make the game they flip out go well ur not making it right then say im leaving the thread and the game goes on and nothing changes from them baby rage quitting the thread , the only thing we are missing are the thread leavers dropping a few 1 star reviews on the way out so every one can how super mad they are

 

[Le Stag]

Just a quick side note. Happened twice now that I wanted to enable the ff button and accidently clicked on an answer becauce it just popped up. Maybe the ff button can be moved to another location in future updates.

Yeah, a few people have told me that. I'm looking into alternate placements.

 

[Trughartar]

First: All in all, very nice update - that discussion with Tara, the sexting part (I played two updates now at once, essentially) - very nice!

So you're saying that every scene will reference previous scenes? Is it really that difficult to do:

if (fucked_that_guy == true) {
    // Some dialogue referencing that situation
}

Because it's a game? And people typically like to have some sort of input into how things play out? Just like in real life, if you tell your girlfriend you're kinky, does that mean you have to be open to every kink possible?


And that's all I need to know.


At the end of the day, it's your game and you must do what you feel is right. Cheers!

Yes, because it's not that simple. Every situation is based on previous events, even if they're not directly referenced. If you tell your girl to not suck someone's cock, how could you explain she's fucking him later?

So I'd have to write dialogues for each potential "did she suck the first time? The second time? The third? Did you tell her you loved it? Did she kiss another guy? What did you tell to Ashley?

Each of these choices would add up to the previous ones. One choice? 2 resulting dialogues. 2 choices? 4. 3 choices? 8. At 10 choices, that's 1024 potential combinations.

Just so you know, the game in its current state has 39 variables accounting for various choices. On certain dialogues, I already have to write up to 9 different variations depending on previous choices. 12 with the new tendency, 15 soon. I'm not going to duplicate all this because you don't want to participate in the game you downloaded. But I can probably add an Uninstaller if you need me to.

So yeah, you can mock me because "it's not hard to code". You can also read what I said, and realize that's not the issue.

I guess this is a discussion not to weigh in, but for what its worth ... and sorry for the wall of text!

Fully understood that Le Stag is in the driving seat here and this will reflect what he wants. On the other hand I do think that some of the comments have merrit and can make for an even more enjoyable game without more effort really.
First, if this is mostly about spam-like iteration of things, then totally with you, that can only be ignored, nothing else.
But personally I dont think thats what other comments like by GetOutOfMyLab are really about.


I'd actually read these comments primarily as "less effort would suffice" or alternatively "consistency".
If there is a choice, which does not really move anything - then why even put it in as choice. Pure flavor text does not matter one way or other of course, but eg if the thing with Oliver happens no matter what - then why two options with the effort of writing two separate lines of converasation items?
Alternatively, if it should be in, then consistency - it will happen. So a dom will tell her to do it. A Sub probably can only tell her "its your choice". Very sub maybe "its your choice mistress", i dont know

For example, the sexting chapter, that was imo really nicely done. All the choices there mattered - "only" for pictures of course, result was always the same, but still. For me that was highly enjoyable and also highly replayable.


And to go beyond that even - of course its totally clear that not all choices (even if maybe reduced to "choices which matter") can be fully reflected in the story. But to be fair, the story progressing does not depend on every detail in every scene before. For example interactions with the other girls - they know something happened, they see Laura coming from the bathroom - they do not need to know, nor do they comment on how long she deepthroated or whether she showed the cum afterward or whatever.
Having an interaction as a whole being "removable" is of course more of an issue, thats true - but then again, why would it matter if things progressed step by step from blowjob to cunnilingus to sex, would work just as well if the first encounter is just "heavy flirting" and then aborted leaving everyone horny and pent up, then no second date, then immediately "third base". Just saying.
(I know that earlier chapters wont change anymore, but would having Laura send that first lingerie pic to, whats his name, Mike drastically change the picture? Or having her send the second lingerie pic optionally neither to Nathan nor the MC but, whats his name, James? Again, just saying.)

But mostly I'm also here thinking about things which dont matter storywise. For example the threeway chat with Laura and Nathan - to be honest, that does not do anything for me. And it would not matter for the story one way or the other if the MC actually listened to it or not, it happened, everyone knows.
And there was a question in the "establish the kink" part in the beginning about "do you want to be there when it happens". Pure flavor at the moment, could easily be an additional variable though.

Again, to repeat, fully understood that all of this can be disregarded, fully understood that Le Stag will do what he wants. Thats how it should be. And some comments are really just out and out trolling.
But there might still be something to be thought through here, maybe to pick up the one or the other detail. Or not.

 

[Le Stag]

What I said is true, most of the people are only here for the pics. All they talk about is the next pic or how do I get to this scene. They're not here for your story, some people want to be here for the story.

Again, you consider you know the whole truth. You think you know what "most of the people" are here for, based on a few posts asking for pictures. You're missing the forest for the trees. Have you tried reading the comments on Patreon? Have you tried swinging by the Discord server? You'd see that most of the discussions there are about the story.

Please stop considering that you know for sure what other people want. It's infuriating, and condescending, both to me and to the other players you're putting into the same basket just because you think this thread is representative of everyone that play the game.

But when you have many people all saying the same thing it kind of does become a we thing.

There are currently 1236 persons subscribed to my Patreon because, I assume, they like the game in its current state. The "many people" you're talking about here are a drop of water in the ocean compared to that. Even if half the posts on this topic were a single person saying that, that had never said it before, that would still be 150 persons short of the amount of subscriber that are apparently happy with the state of the game.

So, as much as you like saying "we", your "we" is a small minority.

Yes, some people don't like the way I'm creating the game. Too bad. I can't satisfy everyone and, once again, I'm not going to risk destroying what I currently have to chase people that want something different. I won't jeopardize what the majority seems to enjoy to chase the wishes of a minority.

And I'm done having this discussion. I'm open to feedback, I really am. But I can't take into account feedback that is basically only "I don't like the way the game is, you should change it".

PS: before telling me to play my own game, you should try doing it yourself, because the Dom route is explicitly described as Laura being the player's "personal toy" that he shares. It has never been described as "MC tells Laura what to do".

But there might still be something to be thought through here, maybe to pick up the one or the other detail. Or not.

Absolutely. But it's hard to take feedback seriously when it's in the middle of a "we know how it should be" post.

 

[Silwith]

But mostly I'm also here thinking about things which dont matter storywise. For example the threeway chat with Laura and Nathan - to be honest, that does not do anything for me.

How would you change that part up for example tho? I personally love that the other guys are more involved, texting you and so on. And if sure, you can go the "I don't want to listen to it" and they have the Sex without you, but then you would probably want a description of what happens later like she normally does? Which makes the scene double the work.

Now, that could be done, it is "just" writing, but one thing I do love is the fast updates, while more meaningful choices would be cool, we all know it would slow down the update speed and I personally take a more streamlined experience where I regularly get new story over that.
I am happy with the small variations in every scene that lead to different pictures, that gives me replayvalue, collecting the pictures, while keeping the development somewhat simple, because we all have seen games with a lot of variables, it baloons and by Update 20 they need to keep track of 500 different possible choices.

 

[Le Stag]

I am happy with the small variations in every scene that lead to different pictures, that gives me replayvalue, collecting the pictures, while keeping the development somewhat simple, because we all have seen games with a lot of variables, it baloons and by Update 20 they need to keep track of 500 different possible choices.

That's a feedback I get often. That I'm positioning on a different slot compared to most other games that give larger updates, but much less frequently. A lot of people seem to enjoy that (I also enjoy doing it, which is a nice bonus), even though that has potential drawbacks. Which is why I'm trying to focus on that.

I've had someone tell me I'm a live-service porn game. I'm not sure that's a compliment though... I wonder if I can make a Battle Pass... =D

 

[Degureshav]

Well that.I went through the last update and it was... in principle, it's not bad.We talked with other girls, in particular with Tara.Laura has become more depraved.Cool.But a new bull...No, super sub route isn't bad, but I'm so used to my bro Nathan that this rookie fool feels really weird.When Nathan insulted me at the end, he said it was just a game, is everything OK? And I say yes, everything is OK, brother.But Oliver... he humiliates me, but he does it without respect...Okay, let's say I eat that too.BUT Nathan is in my heart forever, especially when Laura said she wanted a new bull, I thought give me my homie and go wherever you want.Next, I found a slight discrepancy, when in chapter 20 you refuse anal, she says if you don't take my virginity, then someone else will take it, BUT in chapter 19 I said that I had already had anal sex with her, so this is definitely an inconsistency, (maybe I'm just stupid and misunderstood, lol).I've been following the game for 3 months, but I'm still amused by people saying what a bitch Laura is....Yes, she is, and she teases you all the time...mmmm yes, as the developer said, she has such a character and she will continue to do it lol.Or the constant whining that the game doesn't give you a choice....Mmm yes.And on this occasion, too, everyone has said a hundred times, this is a kinetic novel lol why are you complaining))I wouldn't be surprised if after a couple of updates people start crying about it again.You still need to understand that there is only one developer..Okay, there's no need to talk about it, everything has already been said by others a hundred times.Well, as it is, I would like you to sleep with other girls at least once (and then the balance in the universe will be restored lol), which would cause Laura at least a little bit of jealousy and turn the game around a little and start teasing her as well))Special thanks for the additional interludes for Nathan. This is really cool, In general, thanks for the update and for the game as a whole, and in principle for the meaning of living.(My english is shit so please don't kick my ass...thanks)

 

[TheBigWater]

You'll have to share your whole save folder to access all the photos. Thanks!

Do youknow where should we put that save?

 

[Silwith]

I've had someone tell me I'm a live-service porn game. I'm not sure that's a compliment though... I wonder if I can make a Battle Pass... =D

Take it as one xD, live-service games get a bad rep because of the bad ones, nothing wrong with a good one and as said, it keeps the interest if there is new content without waiting for 3+ months everytime ;D
Would advise against the Battle Pass tho xDDD

 

[siath70]

Again, you consider you know the whole truth. You think you know what "most of the people" are here for, based on a few posts asking for pictures. You're missing the forest for the trees. Have you tried reading the comments on Patreon? Have you tried swinging by the Discord server? You'd see that most of the discussions there are about the story.

Please stop considering that you know for sure what other people want. It's infuriating, and condescending, both to me and to the other players you're putting into the same basket just because you think this thread is representative of everyone that play the game.



There are currently 1236 persons subscribed to my Patreon because, I assume, they like the game in its current state. The "many people" you're talking about here are a drop of water in the ocean compared to that. Even if half the posts on this topic were a single person saying that, that had never said it before, that would still be 150 persons short of the amount of subscriber that are apparently happy with the state of the game.

So, as much as you like saying "we", your "we" is a small minority.

Yes, some people don't like the way I'm creating the game. Too bad. I can't satisfy everyone and, once again, I'm not going to risk destroying what I currently have to chase people that want something different. I won't jeopardize what the majority seems to enjoy to chase the wishes of a minority.

And I'm done having this discussion. I'm open to feedback, I really am. But I can't take into account feedback that is basically only "I don't like the way the game is, you should change it".

PS: before telling me to play my own game, you should try doing it yourself, because the Dom route is explicitly described as Laura being the player's "personal toy" that he shares. It has never been described as "MC tells Laura what to do".



Absolutely. But it's hard to take feedback seriously when it's in the middle of a "we know how it should be" post.

Look I apologize, what I typed came out wrong and is being taken in the wrong way. For that I am sorry to everyone, I can admit when I am wrong. Spilled milk and all that, no way to fix what I said.

It was not my intention, I was just trying to give feedback on what I personally thought was wrong and could be enhanced.

At the end of the day it is your story to tell as you please, I really do hope the best for you and it sounds like you're doing well.

That being said, I wish you the best of luck. Keep doing what your doing.

 

[Darkdestr0yer14]

I have to say having Tara becoming depraved thanks to Ashley and Lara was amazing to see. It feels like you are setting things up so that MC can have sex with Tara but honestly I'm hoping she joins in on the fun of teasing MC. And it will all culminate in the girls hosting a gangbang where MC only gets the AI voice messages updates while he has to imagine Lara, Ashley, and Tara having sex with tons of random men.

 

[rgRen]

Not related to overall discussion, but thank you Le Stag for giving a levelheaded answers and discussing your work basically on a pirate forum. I can imagine that to dive into your discord/patreon community would be more enticing, but you are here non the less. Reading our feedback and discussing your work.

 

[antzicms]

The game is very well made although it has AI art. The art is good. The script is well written. The mobile environment is perfect and eye candy.

I am not a fan nor a hater of NTR. I like the corruption ,the depravity sometimes humiliation too.

Plot:Laura isn't so innocent or so sweet as i read in some comments , she is jumping so fast on the " "NTR" train". I am curious to see the end - MC to not having any kind of intercourse is the bottom for me, even he is his choice - or she continues to cheats non stop.

Personal Opinion: I don't think there is good or bad NTR. All is the same , cheating , sharing. You "destroying" a relationship in some way. Don't want to judge ppl who like it. It's just me that the description of the game is sugarcoated. I know it is just a game.

Good Job to the Developer , a hidden gem.

 

[flies12]

The thing is that the developer has already talked about addressing concerns that Oliver is too much in the next update, which is the right thing to do. Not because people don't like it but because it's right for the characters and the story. Not every dude you encounter in this sort of lifestyle is going to be like Nathan, who is respectful and kind and understands that he's just there for your pleasure. There's going to be assholes and jerks, there's going to be people who catch feels, there's going to be people who make her start catching feels, people who are into specific fetishes, and so on and so forth. Exploring these different sort of guys is a good thing, so long as the developer makes sure the couple talks about it and stays open and honest about their feelings. This exploration is good because that's kinda the whole story: a couple exploring this fetish and the different forms and shapes it can take. That's going to lead to tension and that's good for story building because it keeps things from getting stale and boring. If it was just Nathan all day, every day then it would get old fast. Stories are about changing dynamics and so long as it's honest to the characters and the creator's vision then exploring different ideas is a good thing.

 

[JakeStr078]

Is there a mac version or any way to play this on mac?

 

[Xill]

To the guy who thinks people are here just for the pics, my dude.... With all due respect to the developer mostly, this is AI art. And I'm not saying this in a bad way, but if I or anyone else wanted to fap to AI art we'd go to Rule 34 where that stuff is posted by the hundreds every single day. There's an over abundance of AI art right now, we don't need a game for that.

 

[luccel]

Look I apologize, what I typed came out wrong and is being taken in the wrong way. For that I am sorry to everyone, I can admit when I am wrong. Spilled milk and all that, no way to fix what I said.

It was not my intention, I was just trying to give feedback on what I personally thought was wrong and could be enhanced.

At the end of the day it is your story to tell as you please, I really do hope the best for you and it sounds like you're doing well.

That being said, I wish you the best of luck. Keep doing what your doing.

"what i typed came out wrong" rofl tells the dev to play his own game then types about how hes the only one here for the story the rest of us are just here to look at the pics and that we should all listen to him cause he knows best. Face it dude ur just kinda of a cunt

 

[siath70]

"what i typed came out wrong" rofl tells the dev to play his own game then types about how hes the only one here for the story the rest of us are just here to look at the pics and that we should all listen to him cause he knows best. Face it dude ur just kinda of a cunt

Never said I was only one for the story or everyone else was here for the pics.

So stop being an ass and putting words in peoples mouths.

Pot calling the kettle black.

Didn't want to post here but hey keep me coming back, it's fun!