VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.13.7] [Le Stag]

[BobLeecher]

There is no branching, there is no paths, there is only pseudo-choices which lead to add a few line of text or just skip some event.

"no branching" -> skips are shortcuts, shortcuts are branchings, even if they lead to the same point later, like a branch road.

"no paths" -> let me quote Le Stag:

One mains et path with three ambiance variations (Dominant/Balanced/Submissive relationships), instead of trying many variations that would be unmaintainable.

Those paths change how you're treated by other characters and lead to variations like how they talk to you, what they do to Laura and even how some scenes conclude.

"only pseudo-choices" -> how is accepting/rejecting Ashley or any bull a pseudo-choice? That's pretty major on the scale of this story.

If you want to see not a kinetic novel play Our Red String once and you will see the difference.

Most people here know what a traditional VN is, no need to make a pretentious show of how you know about the game #3520 on the "number of people who rated it" ranking on VNDB. It's like describing what an action movie is to a r/moviecritic redditor by taking "Warriors of the Rainbow" as the example.

 

[Cpt_Ekko]

any heroes to share the new version? i'm really bored

 

[Muhammed_Ozbek]

plans for v0.14?

 

[AcornHunter]

Most people here know what a traditional VN is, no need to make a pretentious show of how you know about the game #3520 on the "number of people who rated it" ranking on VNDB. It's like describing what an action movie is to a r/moviecritic redditor by taking "Warriors of the Rainbow" as the example.

When you reading the book and decided to skip next paragraph about character you don't like it doesn't make your experience interactive at all.
Even if it is for you a PRETTY MAJOR
Kinetic Novels are so easy to make, but they are not popular at all, so most devs of kinetic novels are adding buttons - Accept Offer / Reject
If you reject - sex scenes skipped until next Accept Offer interaction. For someone who really in such kind of games maybe decision not to fuck step-mom a pretty major too. For me personally reason to close the game and never play again.
I am not writing on VNDB forum and not for most people.
I am answering to specific person with specific example, which by the way on this forum has 22.5 millions views and rating 4.6

 

[kikomascado]

When you reading the book and decided to skip next paragraph about character you don't like it doesn't make your experience interactive at all.
Even if it is for you a PRETTY MAJOR

I am not writing on VNDB forum and not for most people.
I am answering to specific person with specific example, which by the way on this forum has 22.5 millions views and rating 4.6

Using a book as analogy, if at some point of it you had to choose between reading two different single pages, I'd already not consider it a conventional book, even if you could argue that it's a shitty "choose-your-own-adventure" choice system...

 

[Petro28]

Le Stag do you have any plans for Tara to send pictures to mc like Ashley and Laura do? I can't imagine that Ashley doesn't convince Tara to have fun and show it to us players.

 

[AcornHunter]

guys
I saw the game
I played the game
I liked it.
I saw a lot of potential, so I subscribed to Patreon and asked Le Stag directly if it's gonna be any branching and paths or it all be just kinetic novel with different text depends on pseudo-route.
He answered - kinetic novel.
Even I was disappointed, I still subscriber and supporting him with money.
Now, I know what expect and understand all limitation such format will bring.
And people starting complain that Super-Duper Dom route in last update is not Duper enough.
And I understand that in such format Le Stag has very limited tools on hand. He can add text and skip event. That's it.
The only a little branch in the game on very sub route with a little difference in text (not just adding) and different pictures which was not branching at all. You can see it before - naked picture of Ashley or dressed picture of Ashley with a little different text.
I am not complaining about the game, I like it very much.
I trying to explain to people who wants Duper that is not possible.
Why? Because of limitations of format.
And here comes everybody else (like you two) and 1. Blaming me that I critique of the game itself (I am not) 2. Trying to convince me this is VN with real branching (which is not)

 

[kikomascado]

guys
I saw the game
I played the game
I liked it.
I saw a lot of potential, so I subscribed to Patreon and asked Le Stag directly if it's gonna be any branching and paths or it all be just kinetic novel with different text depends on pseudo-route.
He answered - kinetic novel.
Even I was disappointed, I still subscriber and supporting him with money.
Now, I know what expect and understand all limitation such format will bring.
And people starting complain that Super-Duper Dom route in last update is not Duper enough.
And I understand that in such format Le Stag has very limited tools on hand. He can add text and skip event. That's it.
The only a little branch in the game on very sub route with a little difference in text (not just adding) and different pictures which was not branching at all. You can see it before - naked picture of Ashley or dressed picture of Ashley with a little different text.
I am not complaining about the game, I like it very much.
I trying to explain to people who wants Duper that is not possible.
Why? Because of limitations of format.
And here comes everybody else (like you two) and 1. Blaming me that I critique of the game itself (I am not) 2. Trying to convince me this is VN with real branching (which is not)

Now you're the one changing the facts.
I don't want Duper (I mean, I want, but I don't expect it from this game) and I'm not blaming you, I just have different opinion. You shouldn't take that as a personal attack, man.
And I also isn't trying to convince you of anything, I just said that there is some, albeit small and very few in between, branching. Like I said earlier, you do you, I don't care...
And finally, just because the author says it's not a fact (no offense, Le Stag). I've seen countless of games on which the author said it's netorare when it was netorase or vice-versa. Just because it fits his definition, doesn't mean it's the right one.

 

[BobLeecher]

When you reading the book and decided to skip next paragraph about character you don't like it doesn't make your experience interactive at all.

Comparing a book that is not made with those choices in mind to a visual novel is dumb. Like saying that a comic book is a cartoon with paused images.

Even if it is for you a PRETTY MAJOR

Cherry-picking part of a sentence to suit your agenda is dumb too.

Kinetic Novels are so easy to make, but they are not popular at all, so most devs of kinetic novels are adding buttons - Accept Offer / Reject

Source leading to that logic?

If you reject - sex scenes skipped until next Accept Offer interaction. For someone who really in such kind of games maybe decision not to fuck step-mom a pretty major too.

Cherry-picking again. What part of "pretty major on the scale of this story" do you not understand?

I am answering to specific person with specific example, which by the way on this forum has 22.5 millions views and rating 4.6

That argument is the first I can accept as reasonnable. Took you time.

He answered - kinetic novel.

If a creator was right on everything about its creation (no offense to Le Stag), everyone would pronounce GIF "jif" and not "guif" and "Street Fighter the movie" would be a "Star Wars/James Bond/war movie".

And I understand that in such format Le Stag has very limited tools on hand. He can add text and skip event. That's it.

The tools are not what prevents multiple endings, more and bigger branching, etc. Unity allows to do much more. What prevents all of that is the concept he has in mind and resources (mainly time he can invest into those parts). If you were a game dev like you claimed to have been, you should know that. But you just proved you never were.

And here comes everybody else (like you two) and 1. Blaming me that I critique of the game itself (I am not)

When did I blame you for critiquing the game? Add delusional paranoid (pleonasm) to cherry-picker. The only point I've made was that it's not a kinetic novel, in part with a definition you conveniently ignored, by the way.
And anyway, there's nothing wrong with making critiques, even more when the author has the intelligence to accept them.

2. Trying to convince me this is VN with real branching (which is not)

There's branching. What your elitist mind considers real or not doesn't matter. A branch is a branch, whatever its scale.

And don't bother answering previous questions, I've found that useful "ignore" button to use on your profile, mister "I spoke directly to EA, Blizzard, Ubisoft, Unreal CEOs".

 

[WRabbittt]

Waiting for the version 13.0

 

[ggggbabybaby]

Skimming through the feedback, is it an unpopular opinion to say I'm still enjoying Netorase Story ?

I'm just hoping Le Stag doesn't get bogged down in trying to please everyone that the game's development grinds to a halt!

 

[BobLeecher]

Skimming through the feedback, is it an unpopular opinion to say I'm still enjoying Netorase Story ?

I do enjoy it. Like, a lot. Especially after the previous update since I like the character of Ashley more than Laura. And although I hope that this aspect will be developped further and further, I'd prefer that Le Stag will stick to his vision of the game, even if that means neglecting those aspects I'm more attached to: it gives more cohesion to the whole and makes for a more memorable story than if the author tried to cater for everyone. Not that it's a bad idea to get feedback, (Ryukishi07 did it anonymously for "Higurashi no naku koro ni"), just not letting it having too much influence.

 

[Henry1887]

Is Le Stag gonna eventually add real art to the game or is he gonna stick to ai art?

 

[nickohoma]

Skimming through the feedback, is it an unpopular opinion to say I'm still enjoying Netorase Story ?

I'm just hoping Le Stag doesn't get bogged down in trying to please everyone that the game's development grinds to a halt!

It probably seems that way sometimes. But game forums are always full of complaints. Dudes on Steam saying worst game ever while they have 5000 hours played.

I have enjoyed a lot of the game. But I also wtf'ed at a couple things that seemed odd considering I didn't tell Laura "hey I want to be degraded/humiliated". Not trying to rehash all that here though.

I totally agree with the concern that trying to please everyone slows down new content though. One camp or the other is gonna be unhappy. Some folks want every update to be a new barrier broken. Other folks want those barriers to stay there.

 

[TrashyAF]

There's a lot of confirmation bias when it comes to criticism. People are always more prone to voice discontent, even if minor, compared to the tacit enjoyment of something.
The game is talked about and has a community that waits for each update with interest, and is even active in threads to this one (shout-out to all the cute and hot art on the fanart thread). I'd say it's doing well.

 

[hlfwaycrks]

Is Le Stag gonna eventually add real art to the game or is he gonna stick to ai art?

I don't see why he'd feel the need to; what we have now is fantastic and there haven't been many calls for it at all that I've seen, plus, the game is doing incredibly well considering the success it's achieved in a short period of time.

 

[Silwith]

Skimming through the feedback, is it an unpopular opinion to say I'm still enjoying Netorase Story ?

I'm just hoping Le Stag doesn't get bogged down in trying to please everyone that the game's development grinds to a halt!

Don't worry, those that love everything how it is rarely speak up and I think Le Stag realizes that Reacting to critique and trying to make it better for people that have their thoughts is fine, but he knows he got like 1500 people who actually give him money that clearly like it as it is
Always a bit of a balance thing, keeping the course that is already working while trying to make the small things that can be made better better

 

[yami syrus]

hey guys !!! where my hero

 

[profapper2023]

Le Stag Thank you. Plain and Simply put... Thank you. What a fun fun game you've made. I'm sure what ever direction you take it in, will be awesome. Thank you.

 

[CassidyPRO]

Le Stag Thank you. Plain and Simply put... Thank you. What a fun fun game you've made. I'm sure what ever direction you take it in, will be awesome. Thank you.

next update, Laura will turn into a tortoise and her arms and legs will turn into refrigerators for now she will travel the planet alone searching for a cure.