VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.15.3] [Le Stag]

[Silwith]

yeah i know.Tbh as i said i like both dominant/submissive but when it comes to your game i am faaaar more interested in the submissibe/humiliation role cause as i said there arent a lot of good humiliation nts games.I feel that a lot of nts devs are afraid that people ll call their game ntr if they offer this content so they avoid it completelyThats why i got worried,cause i got afraid u d also abandon the humiliation route.I can get dominant from other games if u d abandon that i wouldnt be afraid.Thanks for clairifying though that u will work on all routes.I believe that is the correct choice.
Also just a suggestion,on the submissive route if u pick that u dont want to reclaim LI in the first chapters,i notice that until now even on that route u always get to reclaim her (wihout having a choice not to)and i think that is kinda contradicting.Wouldnt it be better if on that route there is no reclaiming at all?

While I think it would be a interesting thing, it should probably evolve, so it starts out with the "reclaiming", then kinda letting that term fall off until in very-sub the MC could even be in chastity and have no sex himself with laura anymore. It would feel wrong to do that from the get-go though.
Wouldn't worry too much about the sub-routes tho, while much of the discussion here is about the dom-parts, I think the majority of the games fans can actually be found in the sub-route.

What I don't get is this; WTF is MC on the "dominant" route still so damn soy? A dominant male, who would "lend out" his girlfriend, would never accept that he himself couldn't do anything with Ashley and Tara when Laura basicly has an entire relationship with Nathan (not that he would want that either, but that's an entirely different discussion).

Maybe it should just be two different games instead. Lots of the narration doesn't make sense from a dominant perspective anyway.

Love the "game" though and it's got huge potential, especially if AI-aided video were to be added, similar to how "Lucky Phone" do it.

You are wrong, sorry... a dominant male can very much be totally fine to be monogamous while he lends out his girlfriend, now, I do agree on the nathan dynamic, a proper dom would completly keep the reigns, so he would be the one deciding when and with whom she is allowed to sleep, but saying someone can't be a dom if he accepts that his girlfriend doesn't want him to sleep with other girls doesnt sit right with me. (Now, of course that would be different if Laura was the one initiating the whole thing, agreeing to something she doesn't want to give him would be weird, but she was totally fine being monogamous with the MC, the MC was the one that wanted her to fool around instead!) Though, that doesn't mean they can't come around to it or something, I only disagree with that premise

PS: What AI aided videos? Lucky Phones "videos" are pretty much a row of pictures, not real videos right? I only play the version with the edited pictures of the devs wife, not the pure ai version )

 

[Fish_lip]

That goes into completly different thing happening on routes again tho, there are enough people that like Oliver in principle (even in the "harder" state he is right now) and dom players can then avoid him if the rework isn't enough for them, having him branch into two paths, one were he contiues and one were we do what you said, then we are back at the problem that making content will take longer and longer.

I think Le Stag going with the approach to make some characters/things avoidable, but keep the overall routes of them simple is good, because the nice development-cycle, instead of the typical months between updates, is also a selling point of the game

Fair point. Some of the fan art over here got me to thinking through different scenarios.
edit: also just realised- dammit, another kink unlocked!

 

[lechieur6]

no it is not
we created the game on Unreal Engine which we sold back in the day for 59.95
before that we did very serious testing on different PC configurations and we ended up with
"recommended specifications"
because even with crazy sales of the game resolving individual problems even of 100-1000 customers is tooooooo expensive
you want the developer with free-to-play game to spend hours for troubleshooting for 10 non-paying customers?????
really????
spend 10 dollars on memory upgrade, mathematician

funny how you immediately change to a completely different situation than the one you first gave. if i was a teacher i would rate your answer to the initial problem: 0.5/10. please read the problem carefully to prevent going off topic.

 

[silverghost1024]

I have to say I really enjoy the game so far and the potential, The fan art for this I think show how much potential for the game.

I personally like the dom route as it been going, but a more Dom route would be interesting. I need to do a pass on the sub route as well. As a developer I can appreciate how this game can have a lot of branches, which would make chapters harder to write. A simple example of the mc being a submissive and denied makes a chapter very different in which the MC is not and controlling more or partaking in the action remotely in some way I would say more so some chapter would only make sense for certain routes. The other challenge I see is that this is all on the phone.. so the interface for some of the suggest DOM routes would be harder to do as the MC is not there, and how would he do stuff like be part of the act, or have a interaction in person with a female, or do an actions like guide the bulls into her.

I will add that some interesting options would be:

1) Laura having some light or heavier BDSM stuff routes for her to submissive and or more dominate like
2) getting a boob job, or piercing on the nipple or clit
3) other routes for the MC with women, such as maybe they both share picture as they are doing a different partner.

I have other ideas as well... but to be honest I think the work and effort to handle to many path ways would easily sloe down the game development. It hard enough as is, given small breaks in the content I have seen so far as how gets to come in her raw first and follows up about if the MC gets her raw or not. These are all great items that allow for fun replay and exploration that I have not seen in other phone games like this.

I do like how this keep a positive connection between the two, as it could easily go to a break up route and toxic relationship, which I would really not enjoy. The positive aspects of the relationship and them being together makes this way more enjoyable.

 

[JS.Anonfox]

Because, apparently, I'm a lot less of a Dom than I thought.

Which is why I'm currently reworking the Dom route.

Perhaps, just scrap the Dom route all together if you're not comfortable with it. Do you want to make Art or do you want to make a product? As the old proverb goes, you can't make everyone happy and you would be a damn fool to try. Make this game as authentic and true to yourself as you can. Make this game as if you where making it for yourself. <Insert other inspirational quotes> you get the picture. I think engaging characters and a good story outweigh anything else.

 

[Adamska]

Self-contained story "loops" added to what's already present in the main/core story will add a lot of value, without having to rework everything from the ground up or having to create a million flavor text variants. The big takeaway seems to be that the Dom perspective should better establish a feeling of MC being the decision maker, but that doesn't always need to come mid-scene.

I'm thinking of extra tone-setting scenes that a Dom (or Sub) route would get before or after the main story events. They would be scenes in a vacuum that trigger for each route, like how the interludes are triggered only based on the player preference of Dom/Sub (if the code allows). For the Dom route, the goal would be to show examples of how Laura looks to MC's preferences before making decisions.

1. MC talks with Oliver before CH27 starts to coordinate a meet-up and agreeing on details (flowing into the current story with Laura getting the text from him later on in the day at work).

2. Laura and MC tease Oliver during a Dom route meet-up where she threatens to leave (and will if MC asks her to), and Oliver has to beg DoMC to let her stay for the session to avoid blue balls. Please let me work with Laura to give that douche blue balls, I would be so happy.

3. MC driving over to pick Laura up from Nathan's like most Doms probably would if she's too tired one night. I know this one is more than a loop since the start of the next day would then need to change as well, but "outs" like that would be nice in future sleepover content.

etc. etc.

 

[Lagunavii]

3. MC driving over to pick Laura up from Nathan's like most Doms probably would if she's too tired one night. I know this one is more than a loop since the start of the next day would then need to change as well, but "outs" like that would be nice in future sleepover content.

This one here is my biggest problem with the latest update - I know it looks like its going to get fixed in another update - but there is no way any "Dom" is leaving his girl to sleep over at a bulls,

Seriously, the forgetting stuff, the getting told what happened by the bull I can kinda let slide. but this one for me was massive - though given routes are not routes so to say and are just added dialogue, its as you said, a little difficult to just add "Im coming to get her, wake her the fuck up" to the text

 

[Back]

Self-contained story "loops" added to what's already present in the main/core story will add a lot of value...

There's apparently some thought put in for these "mini-chapters", as the dev puts it, where specific, self-contained situations will play out (randomly even) that are separate from the main narrative. However, they are all planned to be available during each playthrough so we won't how nuanced they will be from each respective playstyle.

This one here is my biggest problem with the latest update - I know it looks like its going to get fixed in another update - but there is no way any "Dom" is leaving his girl to sleep over at a bulls,

Seriously, the forgetting stuff, the getting told what happened by the bull I can kinda let slide. but this one for me was massive - though given routes are not routes so to say and are just added dialogue, its as you said, a little difficult to just add "Im coming to get her, wake her the fuck up" to the text

That was an issue several players brought up and is being addressed. As you said the developer specifically said they'll target that on the dom route and "[will] have her come home to [the MC] if [the MC] request it, instead of sleeping at Nathan's place". Hopefully that'll help alleviate that specific concern you had for chapter 27.

 

[aqd]

I think it's great that Le Stag is responsive to fans. I know rewrites are tedious, and tracking more variables to diversify paths more will be more work. Here's to hoping you keep inspired and don't suffer from any burnout.

It's been a little while since I did a full playthough. Does Laura have any ex-boyfriends? Maybe one she could start texting the MC about, recounting the best sec she ever had with her ex? Then later maybe he could be passing through town? Just an idea for a sideplot that wouldn't really interfere with the paths.

Also, and aside:
Hot take: I wonder if people who are really into anal sex either haven't had it, or have some kind of scat kink. For me it took one time pulling my dick out of someone and seeing shit on it to realize I might just prefer pussy. Not sure if the ai image generators include that detail. To each their own!

 

[AcornHunter]

funny how you immediately change to a completely different situation than the one you first gave. if i was a teacher i would rate your answer to the initial problem: 0.5/10. please read the problem carefully to prevent going off topic.

no, it is not a different situation
your question was
if AT LEAST 10 persons have that problem, it is more efficient for the dev to fix the problem
my answer is as a dev myself - NO, it is not, and I explained to you why it is not
you looking to the problem from a player perspective, who's upset with memory leak caused by low RAM and low specs of your comp
you don't want to spend a little cash for upgrade of your own PC
BUT you want to dev work on your (and 9 more people) problem for free
how it is more efficient for dev?

The IT guy in the game industry recommends spec upgrades when new iterations keeps linearly increasing ram usage each iteration. Sounds about everything wrong in the games industry today.

When you doing the game for XBox or Sony PS you know exactly the specs and goals you have to achieve.
When you doing the game for PC users, you have no idea what kind of crap they might using.
So your goal become to satisfied the most of player base and for rare individuals only what you can do is recommend to make an update of their crap.
Now, the dev have 3110 followers on Patreon alone and 1521 of them are paying members. Let's say 10 people here (most likely non-paying players) have a memory leak. This is about 0,3% of all players.
What exactly you want to dev to do or recommend you?
You want to put 99,7% of player base on hold and work on your problem?
What solution you will recommend?

 

[Adamska]

interesting and relevant stuff

Tell me you haven't had sex in over a decade without saying you haven't had sex in over a decade.

 

[hlfwaycrks]

Also, and aside:
Hot take: I wonder if people who are really into anal sex either haven't had it, or have some kind of scat kink. For me it took one time pulling my dick out of someone and seeing shit on it to realize I might just prefer pussy. Not sure if the ai image generators include that detail. To each their own!

I promise you, with every fiber of my being, it has nothing to do with having a scat kink. I've never once found shit to be sexually appealing. I certainly don't prefer anal like some dudes (maybe the ones who only want anal and are really weirdly pressuring about it are the ones with the scat kinks? lmao), but I've had exes that really like it and some who didn't want it at all, while I've always been cool with either -- it's not like I can't live without it I personally think you are in the minority with this hot take, but who knows. To each their own, I say!

 

[Chamika niroshan]

no, it is not a different situation
your question was
if AT LEAST 10 persons have that problem, it is more efficient for the dev to fix the problem
my answer is as a dev myself - NO, it is not, and I explained to you why it is not
you looking to the problem from a player perspective, who's upset with memory leak caused by low RAM and low specs of your comp
you don't want to spend a little cash for upgrade of your own PC
BUT you want to dev work on your (and 9 more people) problem for free
how it is more efficient for dev?


When you doing the game for XBox or Sony PS you know exactly the specs and goals you have to achieve.
When you doing the game for PC users, you have no idea what kind of crap they might using.
So your goal become to satisfied the most of player base and for rare individuals only what you can do is recommend to make an update of their crap.
Now, the dev have 3110 followers on Patreon alone and 1521 of them are paying members. Let's say 10 people here (most likely non-paying players) have a memory leak. This is about 0,3% of all players.
What exactly you want to dev to do or recommend you?
You want to put 99,7% of player base on hold and work on your problem?
What solution you will recommend?

I'm happy that this guy is not our game dev and i'm glad he is just a IT guy instead of a doctor . Le stag is hero he understand all members in his community that why he fixing ram issues in game thanks dev

 

[AcornHunter]

great joke for 12 years old

There is a book The Martian by Andy Weir who wrote it in exactly same way as this game developing.
He wrote few chapters and post it online on fan's forum. And few more. And few more. Until the book was finished.
And many people made comments with ideas what to write, what kind of situation will be interesting.
And later Weir confirmed he didn't listen to any of this comments and only few emails from NASA engineers was taking to consideration mostly with scientific corrections.
So, you might write any relevant and interesting stuff, and got some thumb ups and feel better, but if you actually read dev post you'll understand non of this matter.
At least my post maybe will save the dev some time, by ignoring complains which can slow him down drastically.

 

[youraccount69]

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[deviousstorm]

OH a torrent haha. I always get scared of them idk why.

 

[Zerty23456]

Hi,
I'm on the android version, i tried all of the 0.12.x and there is still one problem with the pop it game : when i click on the game, it open, but i can't do anything, even quit, so i need to shut up the application on my phone and restart to continue playing netorase phone.

It isn't a big problem but idk if someone else has the same problem or if Le stag want to fix it.

And, because i never gave my opinion untill now, i play on the balanced route and i really like it, so good job and thanks

 

[Merrk23]

Hi,
I'm on the android version, i tried all of the 0.12.x and there is still one problem with the pop it game : when i click on the game, it open, but i can't do anything, even quit, so i need to shut up the application on my phone and restart to continue playing netorase phone.

It isn't a big problem but idk if someone else has the same problem or if Le stag want to fix it.

And, because i never gave my opinion untill now, i play on the balanced route and i really like it, so good job and thanks

I have the same issue was just about to say this

 

[kurwa99]

Anyone got a full save ?

 

[slightchance]

There is a book The Martian by Andy Weir who wrote it in exactly same way as this game developing.
He wrote few chapters and post it online on fan's forum. And few more. And few more. Until the book was finished.
And many people made comments with ideas what to write, what kind of situation will be interesting.
And later Weir confirmed he didn't listen to any of this comments and only few emails from NASA engineers was taking to consideration mostly with scientific corrections.

You cannot unthink an idea. If he read those comments and used them to know what not to write about, they still served their purpose. And if one overlooks them because of a feeling of superiority, one's work can easily drift into contrarian land where you try to avoid any suggestion out of spite, leading you away from the story you originally had planned to tell.