VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.20] [Le Stag]

[Turret]

Let's drop for a moment the quesstion of definitions and of the games' direction. I'm above all interested in the psychology behind those kinks and their proper appreciation.
So if I may ask, taking the situation in the game as example: the MC is obviously nudging is gf to go forward with other guys. You are apprently interpeting that in the paradgim of a "balanced of stag/vixen" path. So: what exactly is his motivation in that very moment in your perception, what does he get out of it watching his girlfriend doing that? Because I have a feeling, that here starts the difference to what I (and others) call NTS, in this motivations and feelings.

A mixture of Voyeurism, presenting her more sexual fun than a single man can give (let´s face it, no matter how good we are in bed, there comes a time our "best friend" cannot get up again that evening), proud to have such a great girlfriend/wife, happiness she has fun and being wild/slutty, getting hot for reclaiming her, taking her back.

It is about having kinky sexual fun together, both being fully ok with what goes on. Being clear what can be done and what is a red line not to be crossed. Humiliation and denial have no place here, that is something which invariably sends a relationship on the wrong course over time, because of the inherent discordance.

 

[Dealbreaker]

It is about having kinky sexual fun together

Thanks, I understand now better, what you mean, and where the differences are compared to the other paradigm. As I see it you are talking much more about sexual action and performance and satisfaction, the cuck paradigm talks about possession and disposssesion. Also you seem to see yourself and your gf as a sort of team with the common, shared aim to maximize pleasure, whereas the cuck sees himself in a play of power, control and possession which is not played together, as a team, but against each other so to speak (notwithstanding close emotional bonds of course, but it is a struggle BETWEEN, not TOGETHER). For him it's about access and non-access, for you it's about performance.

 

[Turret]

Thanks, I understand now better, what you mean, and where the differences are compared to the other paradigm. As I see it you are talking much more about sexual action and performance and satisfaction, the cuck paradigm talks about possession and disposssesion. Also you seem to see yourself and your gf as a sort of team with the common, shared aim to maximize pleasure, whereas the cuck sees himself in a play of power, control and possession which is not played together, as a team, but against each other so to speak (notwithstanding close emotional bonds of course, but it is a struggle BETWEEN, not TOGETHER). For him it's about access and non-access, for you it's about performance.

Quite correct, my take-on is about the Stag/Vixen view of NTS. You two are in it together, the Stag participating most times (e.g. from simple cuddling to group sex, gangbang), but even if the Vixen is underway alone, it is a shared experience in many ways.
For instance, her coming home unshowered and with spermbreath is an important factor, showing she had fun. (Showering before returning unless absolutely necessary due to circumstances is like hiding it) And then off to reclaiming fun. To compress some things here, think about the old and more innocent song "Save the last dance for me", because in essence it´s verses say "Have all the fun you like, but at the end of it, you are in the arms of the person you love".
See why humiliation and denial have no place in the Stag/Vixen version of NTS?

 

[Dealbreaker]

because in essence it´s verses say "Have all the fun you like, but at the end of it, you are in the arms of the person you love"

Would that include impregnation by another guy or would that go to far within this framework?
And is it always the case that he has fun with other girls as well or could she say no/ he voluntarily decline that?

 

[AcornHunter]

So: what exactly is his motivation in that very moment in your perception, what does he get out of it watching his girlfriend doing that?

Most simple example: some people don't have jelousy. I mean complete zero. So, they look at their love partners not like on object they own, but with love, respect and happiness if the partner happy, even if the partner happy because of sex with somebody else. Long time ago I had girlfriend like that. When we have conversation about jelousy, she told me, if she comes home and find me in the bed with another girl the only question she'll ask if I want her to join or go make a breakfest for everbody.

 

[Turret]

Would that include impregnation by another guy or would that go to far within this framework?
And is it always the case that he has fun with other girls as well or could she say no/ he voluntarily decline that?

That depends on the Stag/Vixen couple in question, what they decide together is acceptable. If both are ok if an "Oops" or deliberate impregnation might/will happen someday, then that is not a problem. They went into it together and knowingly.
Deception, behind the back or one forcing it on the other, that is s... and has nothing to search in Stag/Vixen NTS.

The same for if the guy has fun with other girls of if he voluntary declines it. These are decisions the couple makes together. If they are both happy with the rules, do´s and don´ts they agree on, then it is well.

 

[Sollertis]

Reached the end of the version.

What is good
Story is well written and satisfactory.
Character models are good.
Step by step corruption is nice.

What is bad

Male characters are all same like you might think there is only one guy who plays multiple roles lol. No old, younger(inexperienced) , fat, femboy, skinny guy. So there are 4 males and all are at same age range and have same body type.

Also sex positions are all too similar and her facial expressions are all same too.

But regardless it is fun game.

 

[awer567]

A mixture of Voyeurism, presenting her more sexual fun than a single man can give (let´s face it, no matter how good we are in bed, there comes a time our "best friend" cannot get up again that evening), proud to have such a great girlfriend/wife, happiness she has fun and being wild/slutty, getting hot for reclaiming her, taking her back.

It is about having kinky sexual fun together, both being fully ok with what goes on. Being clear what can be done and what is a red line not to be crossed. Humiliation and denial have no place here, that is something which invariably sends a relationship on the wrong course over time, because of the inherent discordance.

 

[KourinTatsunagi]

Finally caught up to the latest chapters. It started out great but the "mad house" group chat is a miss for me. I enjoyed when it was just the mc and laura. Laura telling the whole group, even adding nathan to it just does nothing for me lol. Some people may find it hot so more power to them.

Even the whole stuff with mike, I didn't expect that so I just went back to another save and ask not to be added to a group chat. It was just wierd reading through Laura making mike look like a cuck when its supposed to be the MC's fetish lol I was completely confused, its the same when nathan was in the group chat with the MC and oliver. It was an easy reload for me, it feels like there was no logic there so I'm glad I can opt out even if I miss the content.

Overall, outside of those, the game is great and the cgs are hot. Amazing game and still one of the better AI Netorase game.

 

[Turret]

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You know that you can answer with NO there? (see screenshot below)
You deliberatedly chose the sub route, then that is on you if you go down the drain later.

 

[derp333]

worst update yet ngl. dunno why we're suddenly backtracking to a patch thats almost entirely vanilla. also felt insanely short again but thats probably because it felt like nothing eventful happened that progressed the story. def unsubscribing for now hopefully the game goes back towards its title in the future patches.

edit: im talking about the patch that came out today

 

[Momo321]

Well new update is out so keen to see what we get this time

 

[Momo321]

worst update yet ngl. dunno why we're suddenly backtracking to a patch thats almost entirely vanilla. also felt insanely short again but thats probably because it felt like nothing eventful happened that progressed the story. def unsubscribing for now hopefully the game goes back towards its title in the future patches.

edit: im talking about the patch that came out today

Still waiting to try it out and see

 

[alex220477]

the real problem is that now we can expect anything from FMC, and that Mc doesn't care, in fact, the more he becomes a cuckold, the happier he is, I think this is the boredom of the plot, at the beginning it was mysterious how Mc managed things, but now, too similar, she fucks with her boyfriends, MC, is happy, has fun, her friends are happy, so, it's become boring,

 

[alex220477]

I think it's great that MC can decide if she gets to fuck Oliver and Matt. But her relationship with Nathan is far beyond "having a bull/fuckfriend". I think this game starts good with her carefully exploring, but it goes into nathan almost replacing MC completely.

you're right, now the game has become too repetitive, it was nice with mysteries or exploring, but as you said, now the real boyfriend is Nathan, and MC doesn't care, he lets the girl, or whatever she is, do whatever she wants, it's not even domination or passivity, to Mc of the girl, because now, they have gone too far beyond the limit, for us players the pleasure of nothing no longer exists, she fucks whoever she wants, then we are forced by Mc to be happy and play the loser, but MC, doesn't care, now, he is happy and a wanker.

 

[Tasty Walrus]

you're right, now the game has become too repetitive, it was nice with mysteries or exploring, but as you said, now the real boyfriend is Nathan, and MC doesn't care, he lets the girl, or whatever she is, do whatever she wants, it's not even domination or passivity, to Mc of the girl, because now, they have gone too far beyond the limit, for us players the pleasure of nothing no longer exists, she fucks whoever she wants, then we are forced by Mc to be happy and play the loser, but MC, doesn't care, now, he is happy and a wanker.

yep. more than anything, it seems that the creator either got tired of this or lost his creative drive. because the early writing is excellent.

 

[alex220477]

yep. more than anything, it seems that the creator either got tired of this or lost his creative drive. because the early writing is excellent.

don't blame the creator too much, but you know, a game based on phone chat, can't last too long, the plot, which doesn't exist, ends, in the end we find some images of her getting fucked by her boyfriends, in fact, now the real boyfriend is Nathan, he fucks her ass for the first time, he fucks her without a condom, ahahahah, the dev told us to decide for ourselves, but it was false, the game is planned in this way, but the creator can't do anything else, he thinks that increasing the boys who fuck FMC is a good idea, I say no, by now with Nathan he has achieved everything, now, and I imagine that's how it is, all that's missing is a gang bang with all her lovers, MC will have some nice horns to collect, well, for MC, what gift is better, hahahhha

 

[vampz]

I don't know where the newest update is going, or where the story is heading, but I don't think it's boring, I would say it is shifting

The initial parts were really about introducing the kink to Laura, and letting her explore it
Now that she has, it's really a question of how far she's going to go (threesome with two of her fuck buddies for example)

But, the latter chapters also introduce a more sexual relationship with Ashley, and getting Tara more involved
So the story could very well shift into Laura and Ashley swinging around, maybe even sharing the MC together
Maybe we'll get to mess around with Tara, or even the unknown redhead

So it has steered further away from pure Netorase, but that I think was to be expected
The MC already is willing to have his GF play with other men
So from here you either let her play with women as well, or just give her a whore corruption path

Basically, either you want more of the early phases, which is the actual exploration of the kink rather than the kink itself, or you want to see more action and just let the nutcases have fun and fuck around

I for one still have faith in Le Stag to write an interesting set of events for us to enjoy

 

[Le Stag]

the real problem is that now we can expect anything from FMC, and that Mc doesn't care, in fact, the more he becomes a cuckold, the happier he is, I think this is the boredom of the plot, at the beginning it was mysterious how Mc managed things, but now, too similar, she fucks with her boyfriends, MC, is happy, has fun, her friends are happy, so, it's become boring,

This is a Netorase game. Of course the more she sleeps with other men the more happy MC is. Thats, like, the whole point.

What do you all people want, for fuck sake? She sleeps with other men, you're complaining. She sleeps with MC, it's vanilla.

So tell me what the hell would make you happy next update, because I really cannot understand what y'all are asking for, and the way I see it, whatever I'm doing, you are complaining.

 

[Le Stag]

if you want other dicks, then you're offending me as a man

What the fuck are you doing here then?!