VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.21.2] [Le Stag]

[DeviantFun]

I think the amount of customization you're expecting is unreasonable. It sounds like you want a "recall" button for Laura at any point during any scene, with an alternative scene at the ready. Yet you fail to see, that with your standards, you would then need an alternative scene, for the alternative scene, because someone might not like the first alternative either. So you'd need another, and another ad infinitum.

You won't ever get this in a game. Just wouldn't be feasible for a human dev. Try AI chatbots, you might like those a lot more, though they will require you to put in some work to train and keep on track.

Could the "Dom" route be more dominant? Yes. That's why it was renamed to "confident stag" instead of "very dominant". Maybe if you adjust your expectations you can enjoy the game better. Or you can keep searching for the one dev that caters to your exact fetishes.

Not trying to personally attack you, but ridiculous demands grind my gears when repeated constantly. (Not from you specifically, but I've seen similiar complains across the last few pages of discussion)

I am just trying to give what can be, hopefully, percieved constructive criticism, the dev has no obligations towards me as I stopped supporting the game actively quite some time ago and even then I don't think being a supporter should give that much of creative control.

Don't worry about the personal attack, I have been vocal about the dom path being considerably weaker (aside from 2 specific scenes, one with nathan and the ass fucking and the other in the club, where you really feel in control of the action) more than once, I just love discussing and seeing other people opinions on topics.

Look I understand you cannot recall Laura, it is just a matter of offering a different angle or a different choice, not unreasonable stuff.
Let me make you a couple of examples:

- Last scene with Nathan, you could have the exact same event but with a switched order or simplly Laura asking, it is literallly showing one picture before another or a few lines of text.
- Mike, you mentioned that it was needed for story reasons, fine, with a few lines of text you can make Mc being the initiator and sending Laura.
This approach can be true for many choices, with the character sending Laura to do dirty deeds instead of being a witness to it.
It would be just text.

As for the condom choice I am steadfast and unmovable! I think it is the original sin of this game and my point of view can be seen as unreasonable to some but it doesn't stop me from enjoying the game here and there because some scenarios are well written, probably moreso in the sub path (had to play that anyway, it is mandatory to collect all the pictures, no?)

 

[redoubt27]

List of things that Laura does without permission from MC:

- all completely avoidable, don't play...
Both Mike and Oliver are completely avoidable.

Laura is acting with a bit of her own agency, based on MC's (your) choices. She's not cheating and she's not doing things without the MC's permission, unless you enable surprises. She's simply not seeking express/explicit permission for every single act...
I don't disagree that there are things I wish were implemented differently, but not my story. And the story clearly indicates MC is giving Laura agency/freedom to act, she's not just a sex puppet. Personally, my only 'complaint' is that I wish there was a way to make Nathan (and others) keep wearing condoms while MC is the only 'raw' participant, but again, not my story...

Hate to break it to folks, NTS is 'cuck' porn...
Generally, NTS is similar to NTR, but in NTS the MC knows, is ok with it, gets turned on by it, encourages it, and the wife/gf still loves/respects (to a degree) the MC, she's participating in the fantasy, and enjoying it... I would agree NTS isn't only 'cuck' porn, but it seems only us 'westerners' try to limit/differentiate NTS to fully 100% consensual express permission for every "sharing/swinging" act. However, that's not the case...
I understand this isn't your idea of NTS/sharing/cuckold, but it's very much netorase, just not with the level of control, constant consent, you'd prefer.

I have enjoyed the story balancing out the NTS a bit, making it more 'sharing', by adding Ashley's and Tara's interactions with the MC, and cuckquean Laura.
Fingers crossed, I'm really, really hoping to see Laura hooking MC up with Sarah (Mike's exGF) and Sophie/Sophia? (Nathan's new GF). And either Ashley, or Tara, or both, hooking up with Laura. That Ashley&Laura strapon tease was hot, and of course disappointing at the same time...lol

 

[DeviantFun]

- all completely avoidable, don't play...
Both Mike and Oliver are completely avoidable.

I don't want to get into the topic too much again, but your statement is incorrect.

Personally, my only 'complaint' is that I wish there was a way to make Nathan (and others) keep wearing condoms while MC is the only 'raw' participant, but again, not my story...

Yeah, this is probably my main concern.

Hate to break it to folks, NTS is 'cuck' porn...

Not necessarily and not always, however it is how it is protrayed in the majority of games.
This one has one major redeeming factor of having the MC being able to do stuff, at a severely slower pace than Laura, but that is mostly ok.

I have enjoyed the story balancing out the NTS a bit, making it more 'sharing', by adding Ashley's and Tara's interactions with the MC, and cuckquean Laura.

Yup, great addition, probably the best thing about this game.

 

[salmon312]

There's no scene of the protagonist licking Laura's used pussy, right?
There are so many paths that it's difficult to unlock all the content. All need a mod to unlock the gallery or a walkthrough.

 

[DeviantFun]

There's no scene of the protagonist licking Laura's used pussy, right?
There are so many paths that it's difficult to unlock all the content. All need a mod to unlock the gallery or a walkthrough.

No, there is not, iirc in the sub path you can kiss her after someone cums in her mouth.

Edit: removed some incorrect information.

 

[salmon312]

No, there is not, iirc in the sub path you can kiss her after someone cums in her mouth.

Not sure why you would want to do that but anyway what you said is actually hinted in some dialogue, whether that will happen or not I cannot know

Why? Because it's supposed to be an NTS game! haha

 

[redoubt27]

I don't want to get into the topic too much again, but your statement is incorrect.

On its own, yes.
In context and response to the issues with Oliver and Mike you stated, no.
Those issues are completely avoidable.
Laura only has the initial scenes/interactions with both Mike and Oliver, after that, MC can say nope, done. All subsequent interactions, where the issues occur, completely avoidable. The sacrifice is a lot of content/pictures. And we have to collect them all, right?...

I should have been more precise.

Not necessarily and not always

I agree, as I stated

I would agree NTS isn't only 'cuck' porn

, but a very large, arguably largest, portion of the cuckold porn fetish is netorase, because the husband/bf knows and is turned on by it...
Compare the definition of the cuckold fetish and netorase... They are almost identical.
Netorase is even defined as a genre of cuckold or sharing porn.

Where we westerns start to differentiate, because cuckold has a negative connotation, NTS includes sharing, swinging, which unfortunately could also be argued as cuckold porn, but we separate it out, because cuckold is 'bad'.
But let's not get into that and let psychologists debate and figure it out...
So, for the sake of everyone, whether stag or cuck, getting their fap on in peace, I agree NTS isn't always cuckold porn...

TLDR.
Netorase Phone is a damn fine VN/story/game. And while there are things I'd do differently, thanks LeStag for an entertaining product.

 

[hugplx]

I think I'm finally giving up on this. It's just... not how a photo NTS story should be done.

Frankly, it's exhausting to read back-to-back-to-back nonstop text chains of what *just happened.*

There are literally countless opportunities to show instead of tell, and they're *never* taken: Ashley peeping on Laura fucking someone in her house and giving you updates, Tara sneaking into the bathroom to snap pics of what Laura is doing, cameras in the house etc etc

When you're at a bar with all the main characters, and your story has everyone texting each other when they're sitting NEXT TO EACH OTHER instead of just talking, you fucked up, imo.

It's a shame, because I love the themes, and the girls are all hella cute, but this game is just exhausting... and the pics just aren't that interesting enough to carry. Feels like there's been no real progression in months.

 

[DeviantFun]

On its own, yes.
In context and response to the issues with Oliver and Mike you stated, no.
Those issues are completely avoidable.
Laura only has the initial scenes/interactions with both Mike and Oliver, after that, MC can say nope, done. All subsequent interactions, where the issues occur, completely avoidable. The sacrifice is a lot of content/pictures. And we have to collect them all, right?...

I should have been more precise.


I agree, as I stated
, but a very large, arguably largest, portion of the cuckold porn fetish is netorase, because the husband/bf knows and is turned on by it...
Compare the definition of the cuckold fetish and netorase... They are almost identical.
Netorase is even defined as a genre of cuckold or sharing porn.

Where we westerns start to differentiate, because cuckold has a negative connotation, NTS includes sharing, swinging, which unfortunately could also be argued as cuckold porn, but we separate it out, because cuckold is 'bad'.
But let's not get into that and let psychologists debate and figure it out...
So, for the sake of everyone, whether stag or cuck, getting their fap on in peace, I agree NTS isn't always cuckold porn...

TLDR.
Netorase Phone is a damn fine VN/story/game. And while there are things I'd do differently, thanks LeStag for an entertaining product.

Sorry, I do not want to spoil you but you are still incorrect about Mike.

Swinging and cuckold are wildly different, I always associated NTS more to swinging, or at least I enjoy games where that is the prevalent situation.
But I get your point.

I agree with you, it is an entertaining product,.

 

[JeffTheBest]

atp Im just waiting for Tara scenes. I think we've had enough of Laura, no?

 

[fuffek]

I don't understand what you guys are debating, NTS (sharing) is a type meanwhile cuckold/stag/swinging and so on are just different branch of it with their own twist on how it goes, there is no being more or less of that, they are just different ways of sharing

 

[redoubt27]

Sorry, I do not want to spoil you but you are still incorrect about Mike.

Well damn. Yeah, I agree that last Mike situation is kinda messed up on that route. I get it 'moves' the story, but that should have been Nathan or Oliver if you had already rejected Mike, twice!!

I didn't reject Mike on my main play through, but had played a path where MC says no to Mike the first time and then didn't let her do her thing, so it was just Laura and MC, skipping Mike again. Even the transition photo with the neighbors, where it says they must love you, now that they can hear you fucking other dudes, doesn't have that text if you reject Mike. I had pretty much abandoned that PT because it was skipping too many pictures...

But low and behold, keep going on that route, she' still hooks up with Mike a couple chapters later...
Yeah, if I had wanted to avoid the Mike interaction, I would have absolutely quit playing at that point.
So, that's at least one valid complaint, jk, jk...

Maybe LeStag will remedy that. Past chapters have been tweaked before.
But maybe not.
The Sarah interaction seems key in the story...
And let's face it, MC and Laura are planning to get it on with Sarah as a big FU to Mike...
And I don't wanna miss the pics Sarah's gonna send Mike of her with the MC and Laura...