VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.22.1] [Le Stag]

[evman9334]

Over the last few updates, the "Dominant" mode have been changed to "Confident". As some things have to happen, having a "dominant" mode supposed to be in charge didn't fit with the required mechanics of the game. Also, it put the game a bit more into the BDSM territory, which I'm having a hard time writing.

Over time, this will be changed in older content too, for it to be consistent. So, yeah, you as the player are not going to have complete control over Laura, because I need events to happen for the game to happen. If you could remove Nathan, the game would just have to end.

honestly I think this is a bit of a cop out. no insult intended its your game to write. But the logic here is kind of confusing. Dominant doesn't intrinisically mean bdsm it means the dom in the relationship which is what the confident characterization has been outside of the problems with decisions no longer mattering on some occasions. The fact that you introduced the cuck queen storyline, offered the MC to require himself in 3somes, and have on multiple occasions allowed the MC to tell laura no about everything from going to sleep with nathan to only He can fuck her raw/creampie her are all dominant choices they are the character being a DOM. He is dominantly telling his girl to suck dudes off in the bar bathroom while her best friend blows him in the stall next door. So honestly just don't write BDSM write a domineering boyfriend that tells his GF what to do and who to do it with....and Have her obey him. Thats how it starts until you make the first submissive choices so just keep that up. You are phenomal at writing the Cuckqueen/swinging stuff so far. one of the best parts of this game so far have been the Scenes where Ashley blows with lauras permission, The bar BJ with Laura and Ashley, and Ashley and you having sex with Laura's permission....in the confident stag arc....My heart was racing and I well I won't ruin your mood with those details but lets just say It was great. I legit saved those particular sections as "PEAK play again". I would say you don't have to remove Nathan he is a good foil for the characters. But please bring back the consistency of Laura and him obeying the MC's choices absolutely in the confident stag arc. It really breaks immersion when laura asks if she can play with one of the guys and you say no...only to get a text from the guy or her about how she was fucked by him and be ready to reclaim her. at that point its just cheating you no longer are a stag nor is it sharing she's just cheating. which kind of goes against the purpose here. In the sub cuck line that works because you gave her control of the play. but in the confident stag/dom role you as the MC should have absolute control of who she fucks, when, why, condom/no condom, creampie/no creampie, etc...

I will also say that I think that you probably could have allowed the play to skip Laura fucking nathan at this chapters party if the player is ConStag (I am a patron by the way Legal version is king). having Her be fucking pent up for you when you got home after watching (with Tara)while nathan helped Ashley cuck Marcel would have been fucking spectactular(I give full permission for you to add this idea I would love to see it be added into it retroactively). Given in my playthrough I said no to last updates party I was dissipointed that there was a second party with cuckolding I couldn't make decisions about forced upon me. like whether she wore panties or not changed nothing...the outcome was the same. Hell you could have had nathan and her wait the hour for MC to get home and have her first 3some which would have been peak. hell you could have had this party be the one MC could go to. and had MC, Laura, Ashley, and Nathan cuck Marcel. having Marcel watch the girls blow MC, and Nathan while kneeling in the corner would have been funny as fuck and hot. but I digress.

 

[kurwa99]

Full save ?

 

[Starscream76]

When The Stag introduced his three choices: dominant, neutral, and submissive cuckold. I was super happy because I wanted the MC to have power over Laura, and dominant doesn't automatically mean BDSM. The MC doesn't want Laura to cheat, but to share, as you all say. I'm going to make enemies, lol. But at some point, we have the choice to let Laura or not to break the rules. But I have the impression that even though we chose not to let her break the rules, she still does what she wants without the MC's consent. Or maybe I'm misinterpreting the game when I play it, but that's the feeling I've had since the last two updates. I'm talking about 0.20 and 0.21. I know that making a game and writing a coherent story is difficult, especially in sex because we have our central point, but sometimes we want to add something trashy or an idea crosses our minds and we say "yeah, why do it like that" but it's dangerous because it can disrupt the flow of the story and create inconsistencies. I love this game and I want to give my opinion to help the creator so that he makes a great game that we can play and replay.

 

[Le Stag]

When The Stag introduced his three choices: dominant, neutral, and submissive cuckold. I was super happy because I wanted the MC to have power over Laura, and dominant doesn't automatically mean BDSM. The MC doesn't want Laura to cheat, but to share, as you all say. I'm going to make enemies, lol. But at some point, we have the choice to let Laura or not to break the rules. But I have the impression that even though we chose not to let her break the rules, she still does what she wants without the MC's consent. Or maybe I'm misinterpreting the game when I play it, but that's the feeling I've had since the last two updates. I'm talking about 0.20 and 0.21. I know that making a game and writing a coherent story is difficult, especially in sex because we have our central point, but sometimes we want to add something trashy or an idea crosses our minds and we say "yeah, why do it like that" but it's dangerous because it can disrupt the flow of the story and create inconsistencies. I love this game and I want to give my opinion to help the creator so that he makes a great game that we can play and replay.

I simply cannot let you have full control, period. The game would be unable to progress in a cohesive way. The "Dominant" path was never planned as giving you control, which is why I rebranded it, because people always assumed it should, when it can't.

 

[Dealbreaker]

Very mature statements here. Why then writing in a public forum?

 

[Ponos13]

I simply cannot let you have full control, period. The game would be unable to progress in a cohesive way. The "Dominant" path was never planned as giving you control, which is why I rebranded it, because people always assumed it should, when it can't.

That was a mistake then that actually sparks alot of the talks going on now.You should have been more clear on that from the start.Hell if it was your vision all along not for the MC to have full control then the two paths of balance and sub is enough.Isnt the point of a Stag to either have control or have a balanced grip on things?And i am having a convo here not point fingets at the bad Dev.Your vision is your vision and people chose to play/pay your vision.Just a clear vision-interpretation of things sparks less controvery.

 

[Ankhesenamun]

Very mature statements here. Why then writing in a public forum?

Not everyone has the capacity to be held accountable by the forceful and unfounded validation of their feelings that they presented, showing them as dogmatic and unquestionable, even when it was them, themselves, who brought this onto a place of debate (?).

It's a rethorical bait-and-switch, one presents an argument to be discussed, then cowers behind a faux shield of "I owe you no explanation". Those two appear to be immensely immature, with the Limp Bizkit type of "fuck you biatch I owe you nothing" comebacks. Don't bother. He thinks he has the mic drop, but will keep picking it up and coming back to argue pointlessly.

 

[Suntar]

I simply cannot let you have full control, period. The game would be unable to progress in a cohesive way. The "Dominant" path was never planned as giving you control, which is why I rebranded it, because people always assumed it should, when it can't.

I feel like a big part of their resentment might actually stem from interludes.
It's in the interludes where Laura visits her bulls randomly and without (explicit) prior agreement. Sometimes you even get messages from the bulls.
Maybe you could group these NTS interludes and make them avoidable like Olliver's and Mike's?


I really can't think of another reasonable way to interpret their critiques. Everything else is avoidable already.

 

[Suntar]

That was a mistake then that actually sparks alot of the talks going on now.You should have been more clear on that from the start.Hell if it was your vision all along not for the MC to have full control then the two paths of balance and sub is enough.Isnt the point of a Stag to either have control or have a balanced grip on things?And i am having a convo here not point fingets at the bad Dev.Your vision is your vision and people chose to play/pay your vision.Just a clear vision-interpretation of things sparks less controvery.

My man, he cannot give you full controll because he's creating a linear game with branching paths.

Here's what's going on:
You have a number of roads to choose from to drive your car from point A to point B. However, you're complaining you cannot drive off-road through the forrest and are demanding an aditional road be built just for you.

 

[Ponos13]

My man, he cannot give you full controll because he's creating a linear game with branching paths.

Here's what's going on:
You have a number of roads to choose from to drive your car from point A to point B. However, you're complaining you cannot drive off-road through the forrest and are demanding an aditional road be built just for you.

And did i say otherwise in my statement?Thats why i said the two paths was enough.The dominant one shouldnt have been in from the start.Since it doesnt help in the linear part of things.Where do i demand anything in my post??He gave the off road part at first and not me.Then it wasnt compatible with what he wanted to move the story forward and changed it.Read again please.I say why there is controversy atm.I dont complain or demand anything.I dont pay him anything to demand anything.

 

[Suntar]

And did i say otherwise in my statement?Thats why i said the two paths was enough.The dominant one shouldnt have been in from the start.Since it doesnt help in the linear part of things.Where do i demand anything in my post??He gave the off road part at first and not me.Then it wasnt compatible with what he wanted to move the story forward and changed it.Read again please.I say why there is controversy atm.I dont complain or demand anything.I dont pay him anything to demand anything.

Dominant was renamed to "Confident". Precisely because of misconceptions like yours.

There's so many paths in the game precisely to give players as much controll as possible. Why is that bad, just because it doesn't fit your exact preconceived notion of what the path should be?

 

[yourmomma]

Good on you for fixing it. Idk why I left the ES3 bit in, it was bound to cause issues eventually...
Where's the credit though?

I'm sharing my build again (for v0.22) because I have trust issues in random DLL files online, and this way I can attach the source again.

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Where do the source code files go?

 

[bp111]

Feels like some people are taking the 'routes' far too literally. They're mostly just flavour text. I get the impression Stag doesn't want a sprawling story that takes off in different ways and similarly doesn't want to write 5 different versions of every scene.

You are given options, skip content you don't like, remove most people you don't like and have the conversations treat you in a way you do like.

 

[George311]

Where do the source code files go?

If you have to ask, ignore them. They dont do anything in the game.
Theyre for building the mod yourself, and allow you to verify it doesnt do anything shady.

 

[Ponos13]

Dominant was renamed to "Confident". Precisely because of misconceptions like yours.

There's so many paths in the game precisely to give players as much controll as possible. Why is that bad, just because it doesn't fit your exact preconceived notion of what the path should be?

Again where i i stated its bad?I feel you dont read what i write...I have no preconceived notions about anything.He started a path named Dominant.People took that at word value as they should have.He changed it and end of story for me.Where again i said it was a bad change.i said it started controversy at some point cause it took a path people thought it whould be in the story.I havent demanded him to change it back now have i?Its his story he knows his vision better.And its my previlege not to like it or not.Or comment on it.I am pretty sure i havent bad mouthed him or said anything negative to him.

 

[Suntar]

Again where i i stated its bad?I feel you dont read what i write...I have no preconceived notions about anything.He started a path named Dominant.People took that at word value as they should have.He changed it and end of story for me.Where again i said it was a bad change.i said it started controversy at some point cause it took a path people thought it whould be in the story.I havent demanded him to change it back now have i?Its his story he knows his vision better.And its my previlege not to like it or not.Or comment on it.I am pretty sure i havent bad mouthed him or said anything negative to him.

You are criticizing him for a mistake that he has already corrected.
What else is he supposed to do? Travel back in time?

Afterwards you said the path was not needed, at the very least implyimg for LeStag to stop continuing it and focus on the other paths.

I also meant to adress my first post to everybody that's constantly complaining about a lack of control on the confident path. Just using your post as an example

 

[Ronjonsurf69]

I guess just be happy to be Laura's cucky.

 

[Aladin01]

I guess just be happy to be Laura's cucky.

Anytime

 

[Le Stag]

That was a mistake then that actually sparks alot of the talks going on now.You should have been more clear on that from the start.

I have been. I've always said you would never have full control. Repeatedly. I can't make people understand if they don't want to, and I got tired of repeating the same things over and over again.

Hell if it was your vision all along not for the MC to have full control then the two paths of balance and sub is enough.

The point of the "very" paths is to allow people to have more choices in the degree of things. Not every sub wants the same thing.

 

[mmm1374]

I have been. I've always said you would never have full control. Repeatedly. I can't make people understand if they don't want to, and I got tired of repeating the same things over and over again.



The point of the "very" paths is to allow people to have more choices in the degree of things. Not every sub wants the same thing.

A problem with these people is i don't want to be rude to anyone but looks like they want to pretend to be stupid like when a dev tells you it's always going to be nts don't ask each update like an idiot is this ntr now why did this happen why did that happen ‍‍‍