VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.22.1] [Le Stag]

[HoM11]

I have been. I've always said you would never have full control. Repeatedly. I can't make people understand if they don't want to, and I got tired of repeating the same things over and over again.



The point of the "very" paths is to allow people to have more choices in the degree of things. Not every sub wants the same thing.

Ah, see, but you could have just named the game "Netorase Phone: there will be no NTR, players will not have full control over girlfriend's every action, there won't be multiple routes for every character because that's too many variables, choices are often for flavor and to break the wall of text, girlfriend won't have a new lover every update and some lovers will have more content than others", so that people would have their expectations set from the beginning. Such an easily avoidable problem.

 

[Turian01]

Sounds more like they are interested in "Vanilla Phone" or "Harem Phone" since the "more freedom" they want are choices like denying Laura to progress with Nathan and him using condoms, on top of sending away Oliver, Mike and other bulls. And more sex with side girls for the MC.

 

[HoM11]

Sounds more like they are interested in "Vanilla Phone" or "Harem Phone"

Got half of that covered.

 

[Antani101]

"Netorase Phone: there will be no NTR, players will not have full control over girlfriend's every action, there won't be multiple routes for every character because that's too many variables, choices are often for flavor and to break the wall of text, girlfriend won't have a new lover every update and some lovers will have more content than others"

It just rolls off the tongue doesn't it?

 

[Cherubin25]

Sounds more like they are interested in "Vanilla Phone" or "Harem Phone" since the "more freedom" they want are choices like denying Laura to progress with Nathan and him using condoms, on top of sending away Oliver, Mike and other bulls. And more sex with side girls for the MC.

This. Netorase in this game is absolutely mandatory and obviously this means that you will not have full control. Full control would mean to tell Laura outright that she should not fool around with anyone. So I guess your suspicion that people who want full control are more interested in Harem-games is most likely correct. (Not that it is bad to be interested in a Harem-game or Vanilla-game. But then this game is not the right game for those people)

 

[Antani101]

Sounds more like they are interested in "Vanilla Phone" or "Harem Phone" since the "more freedom" they want are choices like denying Laura to progress with Nathan and him using condoms, on top of sending away Oliver, Mike and other bulls. And more sex with side girls for the MC.

Don't forget the opposite crowd who want Laura to be gangbanged by lots of dudes while the MC is denied any contact with any other girl.

Truth is you can please everyone some of the time, or you can please someone every time, but you can't please everyone every time.

 

[HoM11]

It just rolls off the tongue doesn't it?

Right? Here, free, efficient game names for all the devs out there to avoid unnecessary confusion:

My Lovely Wife: There Will Be No NTR
Happiest Marriage: NTR is (Un)avoidable
A Quest for The One and Only: No, There Won't be a Harem Option — Do You See a Harem Tag Anywhere?
Every Woman I Meet Falls in Love with Me, Despite Me Having No Personality: Yes, There Will Be A Harem Option
School Years: No, MC Can't Bang His Mom
My Old Family: MC Will Not Bang His Sisters Until Chapter 5 and His Mother Until Chapter 7
My Sandbox Fantasy: Yes, This Is a Heavy Sandbox Game
Porn Game: Next Update Will Be Out When It's Ready
Porn Game 2: The Game Is Updated Every 3 Months and It Has Barely Been 2 Weeks Since the Last Update — Stop Asking
Porn Game 3: Someone Answered Your Question Literally 2 Posts Above Yours!

 

[Turian01]

This. Netorase in this game is absolutely mandatory and obviously this means that you will not have full control. Full control would mean to tell Laura outright that she should not fool around with anyone. So I guess your suspicion that people who want full control are more interested in Harem-games is most likely correct. (Not that it is bad to be interested in a Harem-game or Vanilla-game. But then this game is not the right game for those people)

oh I agree. There's nothing wrong with Harem and Vanilla games. I enjoy those too.

But demanding it for this game is like is like visiting a coffee shop and ordering a pizza.

 

[Antani101]

Porn Game: Next Update Will Be Out When It's Ready
Porn Game 2: The Game Is Updated Every 3 Months and It Has Barely Been 2 Weeks Since the Last Update — Stop Asking
Porn Game 3: Someone Answered Your Question Literally 2 Posts Above Yours!

Those three are way too general, they could apply to literally every game here

 

[HoM11]

Those three are way too general, they could apply to literally every game here

That was on purpose because that is asked in most game threads, independent of the genre.

 

[Antani101]

That was on purpose because that is asked in most game threads, independent of the genre.

Yeah I got that the joke is that I was implying the other titles were instead absolutely fine

 

[HoM11]

Yeah I got that the joke is that I was implying the other titles were instead absolutely fine

Ah, I misunderstood your comment.

 

[Antani101]

Ah, I misunderstood your comment.

Yeah it probably wasn't that good, unlike your titles

 

[HoM11]

Yeah it probably wasn't that good, unlike your titles

You're too kind.
Remembered another one:
A Bored Wife: Yes, The Will Be a Lesbian Only Path

 

[evman9334]

There is nothing NTS/Cuckolding about this game anymore. It has degenerated into utter nonsense. Maybe rename this game to "polyamory phone".

to target this particular point....I don't think you understand polyamory...Polyamory is you as an individual being non monogamous. You have multiple partners who might also be poly and have other partners or they might be only in a relationship with you. this isn't what is going on here. This game plays with the limited open relationship/swinging aspects of NTS. The main character and laura aren't falling in love and having multiple loving relationships outside their own relationship. They are having sexual relationships with other people within the boundaries of their own monogomous relationship. they love each other and want to explore sexual relationships outside of that...but unlike just an open relationship they have created rules and boundaries ....atleast until you just say fuck it as the sub cuck and tell her to just go nuts...which honestly kind of just becomes a visual novel where your choices stop mattering but I mean to each their own.

 

[evman9334]

I feel like a big part of their resentment might actually stem from interludes.
It's in the interludes where Laura visits her bulls randomly and without (explicit) prior agreement. Sometimes you even get messages from the bulls.
Maybe you could group these NTS interludes and make them avoidable like Olliver's and Mike's?


I really can't think of another reasonable way to interpret their critiques. Everything else is avoidable already.

this is exactly the point we are asking for. Le stag gave us the choice to say no surprises then all the sudden says "well nevermind I can't be bothered to code the game to keep doing that." just comes off as a bit of lazyness. The vast majority here aren't saying that we want to be fucking doing shibari on laura and telling her we get to fuck her friends while she gets nothing. We are saying we want the consistency promised in the premise of the game. Choices matter. if you give me a choice to tell Laura no I want only me to fuck you tonight lets stay home and do couple shit.. and she says yes . THat should happen. she shouldn't still go fuck nathan or whoever that night. I shouldn't get random texts of her getting fucked if I said no surprises. just code an "if no to surprises then no random interludes/ then no she doesn't go fuck him that night" statement its not a lot of work. its a matter of not having things like her randomly getting barebacked by nathan in the current chapter despite her having agreed to use condoms with other guys and only let you fuck her without one. these things are not difficult to code..

I get it if you are using civitai and the current credit card freeze meant that you couldn't generate any new images so you just used leftovers from the last chapter....hence the copy paste party after another party chapter that felt kind of forced, limited and copy pasted. I mean get your money from us patrons....but I mean if you can't make a version of the image with a condom just give us a version of the event where they don't fuck and she waits for you. its fine.

 

[Antani101]

but unlike just an open relationship they have created rules and boundaries...

Open relationships, and polycules absolutely have rules and boundaries in place, I'd say the MC and Laura aren't poly because with everyone else it's not romantic, it's just sex and friendship, but they definitely have a open relationship. And I would say they fall well under the ENM umbrella.

 

[evman9334]

Sounds more like they are interested in "Vanilla Phone" or "Harem Phone" since the "more freedom" they want are choices like denying Laura to progress with Nathan and him using condoms, on top of sending away Oliver, Mike and other bulls. And more sex with side girls for the MC.

I think you guys are taking this too far. it sounds like you are saying the story should just end universally with Nathan and Laura becoming a relationship...thats just NTR not NTS. I mean If I had my choices Laura would be fucking dudes at the bar, or friends of the MC who he knows personally. hell she could keep being lent out to Nathan. the key is being lent out because thats what a confident stag is doing lending..
and laura allowing him to fuck her friends was something that Le stag introduced to the game himself which makes it a legitimate point to say that we want more of it. If we are interested in that part of the writing its reasonable to want more of it...I mean was the BJ in the bar while laura was blowing that dude in the stall next to it not fucking awesome? On the note of the other bulls...ones a piece of shit that laura hates, and the others are optional as is. TO say "oh you lame douches are weird for wanting the game to be a game........" is fucking silly. Like if My choice is that Nathan should be fucking laura in a way that isn't the same as the MC(as in he uses condoms and doesn't creampie her. or He fucks her only when the MC and Laura agree its cool" thats a reasonable ask. just don't give me the event let me skip the scene. Le stag usually has mc fuck laura afterwards anyways....hell if he wants her to fuck nathan in a chapter have her beg the MC and offer something for it in confident stag. like its not hard to write a few extra lines of dialogue. we aren't asking for you to write a million branching paths...hell you could have her send ashley over and just reuse the blowjob scene with a few slightly changed dialogues and slight picture variants of the BJ since generating images with AI takes a minute or so. the current update was just the previous release copy pasted with extra characters and pov's as it is.

 

[Turian01]

I think you guys are taking this too far. it sounds like you are saying the story should just end universally with Nathan and Laura becoming a relationship...thats just NTR not NTS. I mean If I had my choices Laura would be fucking dudes at the bar, or friends of the MC who he knows personally. hell she could keep being lent out to Nathan. the key is being lent out because thats what a confident stag is doing lending..
and laura allowing him to fuck her friends was something that Le stag introduced to the game himself which makes it a legitimate point to say that we want more of it. If we are interested in that part of the writing its reasonable to want more of it...I mean was the BJ in the bar while laura was blowing that dude in the stall next to it not fucking awesome? On the note of the other bulls...ones a piece of shit that laura hates, and the others are optional as is. TO say "oh you lame douches are weird for wanting the game to be a game........" is fucking silly. Like if My choice is that Nathan should be fucking laura in a way that isn't the same as the MC(as in he uses condoms and doesn't creampie her. or He fucks her only when the MC and Laura agree its cool" thats a reasonable ask. just don't give me the event let me skip the scene. Le stag usually has mc fuck laura afterwards anyways....hell if he wants her to fuck nathan in a chapter have her beg the MC and offer something for it in confident stag. like its not hard to write a few extra lines of dialogue. we aren't asking for you to write a million branching paths...hell you could have her send ashley over and just reuse the blowjob scene with a few slightly changed dialogues and slight picture variants of the BJ since generating images with AI takes a minute or so. the current update was just the previous release copy pasted with extra characters and pov's as it is.

You assume wrong, as that's absolutely NOT what I am saying.

I am saying that if you're going to give players the agency to limit the interactions with Nathan too, the story will never progress at the pace Stag is setting, as you open it up too much. Let's not forget, this is a kinetic novel with flavor settings/text. Not a game.

Also not saying that fucking the other girls with the MC isn't good. I am saying some people ONLY want that content, and skip on the NTS part. Which is idiotic in a game like this.


And if you think generating GOOD AI pictures (like this game has) takes mere minutes, you clearly haven't give it a serious attempt. It takes dozens of attempts to get a decent picture and then you still have to post-edit in photoshop or whatever.

 

[evman9334]

Open relationships, and polycules absolutely have rules and boundaries in place, I'd say the MC and Laura aren't poly because with everyone else it's not romantic, it's just sex and friendship, but they definitely have a open relationship. And I would say they fall well under the ENM umbrella.

I should have worded that a little differently. But if you read again I was saying that an unrestrained open relationship is essentially as long as you come home to me safely anything is free game. Polyamory is about nonmonogamous relationships. so while rules exist its a completely different structure than anything involved in this game. unless stag is being honest here and just wants nathan and Laura to get together while MC goons in the background....I mean that seems to be the real direction here. He seems to just want to end game an NTR ending where the MC is cool with it because he goons to them having babies he has to raise. I said a limited open relationship/swinging because thats the entire game until recently. Laura asked early on about you wanting to be with other girls and then a few chapters back she opened the relationship for MC and became a cuck herself. so I mean at the moment its just swinging with extra flavor but Le stag and the cucky ntr fans(no insult thats a fine genre to be a fan of)can't seem to accept that this is now a part of the game that he unleashed on himself. If he wants to make an NTR game instead just make NTR phone or one of the other similar games. don't pretend to be different when you are not.