VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.23] [Le Stag]

[Tasty Walrus]

like I wrote earlier, I loved the early part of the game, where FMC were carefully exploring this new thing.

But it went from being exciting to being repetative. I agree with the critizism of Nathan replacing MC and the story being somewhat stuck without progress.

That said, it's Le Stags story. We're just here for the ride. The story/game is still good, but I think it should be possible to say it "was better" earlier without getting called a troll.

I still like it. I hope it'll continue to be good. But I hope it's not gonna be several chapters with Nathan just simply replacing MC as FMCs boyfriend.

The introduction of Oliver and Matt was good because that reduced some of the Nathan-Boyfriend thing that was going on. Even if Oliver is someone I'd punch in the face if I got the opportunity.

 

[Dealbreaker]

That said, it's Le Stags story. We're just here for the ride. The story/game is still good, but I think it should be possible to say it "was better" earlier without getting called a troll.

Agreed.
And I have to say, I'm a bit surprised and disappointed regarding some of the more aggressive and very defensive reactions here (without having any prior experiences with the respective users).

 

[Tasty Walrus]

Agreed.
And I have to say, I'm a bit surprised and disappointed regarding some of the more aggressive and very defensive reactions here (without having any prior experiences with the respective users).

Yea. It's interesting because in all games I've followed, cheating/NTR/Netorase is one of the topics that create most controversy , disagreements and discussions. It's almost as if anti-NTR people are drawn towards games that explicitly warns user that it's a NTR-themed game. Still they play it and complain about NTR.

I'm not gonna pretend to be an expect on psychology, but I'm not buying the "I love my wife so I want her to be happy and fuck other men" bullshit. NTR belongs to the masochism-part of human psychology. We like the pain (or pretend to do).

Maybe anti-NTR people are also masochistic, and love to hurt themselves by watching or playing NTR games, just to complain about the NTR-part after.

 

[JQuillon]

Yea. It's interesting because in all games I've followed, cheating/NTR/Netorase is one of the topics that create most controversy , disagreements and discussions. It's almost as if anti-NTR people are drawn towards games that explicitly warns user that it's a NTR-themed game. Still they play it and complain about NTR.

I'm not gonna pretend to be an expect on psychology, but I'm not buying the "I love my wife so I want her to be happy and fuck other men" bullshit. NTR belongs to the masochism-part of human psychology. We like the pain (or pretend to do).

Maybe anti-NTR people are also masochistic, and love to hurt themselves by watching or playing NTR games, just to complain about the NTR-part after.

Funny thing is that you're (purposefully?) misrepresenting what happened today, as it was the complete opposite, ie pro-NTR people complaining that an NTS-themed game should turn to NTR instead.

So, I don't know, maybe pro-NTR people are masochistic and love to hurt themselves by watching or playing NTS games, just to complain about the NTS part after. What do you think?

 

[Tasty Walrus]

Funny thing is that you're (purposefully?) misrepresenting what happened today, as it was the complete opposite, ie pro-NTR people complaining that an NTS-themed game should turn to NTR instead.

So, I don't know, maybe pro-NTR people are masochistic and love to hurt themselves by watching or playing NTS games, just to complain about the NTS part after. What do you think?

Interesting, the way I read it (I might be wrong) was that Le Stag was getting critizism for turning a NTS game (consensual and sharing) into a NTR game (by letting Nathan and others take over as boyfriends for MC and mock him with texts and pictures of what they're doing to FMC).

I might have read this wrong though.

 

[TheBigWater]

Secret NTR ending - Laura breaks up with you and stops sending you pics. Game over
Maybe NTR people just want to lose even more control. Like Laura moving out to one of her boyfriends but still in relationship with us. Who knows

 

[Tasty Walrus]

Secret NTR ending - Laura breaks up with you and stops sending you pics. Game over
Maybe NTR people just want to lose even more control. Like Laura moving out to one of her boyfriends but still in relationship with us. Who knows

Do you agree with my take that the game somewhat is shifting towards NTR?

(ORS is a fantastic game by the way. Love your banner)

 

[Dealbreaker]

as it was the complete opposite, ie pro-NTR people complaining that an NTS-themed game should turn to NTR instead.

At this point, such sentences sound like medieval religious sects or cold warriors talking. It's beyond mere sound classifications for the sake of storytelling or psychological understanding. The idea alone that these things could and ought to be neatly seperated otherwise someone could be hurt or offended or something.

 

[TheBigWater]

Do you agree with my take that the game somewhat is shifting towards NTR?

(ORS is a fantastic game by the way. Love your banner)

NTR is when someone "steals" your girlriend.
It can shift more into "cuckolding" if you choose very submissive path.
I haven't seen clues for Laura cheating on us behind our back. She always tel us where she was and with who. So it's hard to tell its NTR
I feel like focus of the story changed (in the last public update) from Laura to Ashey and (?) Tara, where we can see the second one corrupting.
People who like NTR more, may be annoyed, that Laura sleeps mostly with Nathan, the guy who isn't stereotype guy for cuckolding and NTR, Olivier would be much better choice, and the other ones are sad, than Laura havent found herself a black guy
It's hard for dev to create NTS game, because its halfway between NTR and vanilla, and one will say "ew NTR" and other one will say "NOT ENOUGH NTR".
I enjoy both, and It's good that we have developer who tries to stay in the middle and make everyone happy with free updates

 

[Tasty Walrus]

NTR is when someone "steals" your girlriend.
It can shift more into "cuckolding" if you choose very submissive path.
I haven't seen clues for Laura cheating on us behind our back. She always tel us where she was and with who. So it's hard to tell its NTR
I feel like focus of the story changed (in the last public update) from Laura to Ashey and (?) Tara, where we can see the second one corrupting.
People who like NTR more, may be annoyed, that Laura sleeps mostly with Nathan, the guy who isn't stereotype guy for cuckolding and NTR, Olivier would be much better choice, and the other ones are sad, than Laura havent found herself a black guy
It's hard for dev to create NTS game, because its halfway between NTR and vanilla, and one will say "ew NTR" and other one will say "NOT ENOUGH NTR".
I enjoy both, and It's good that we have developer who tries to stay in the middle and make everyone happy with free updates

You're right. That's why I said shifting. I don't recall exact examples, but I think there was an increase of texts to MC from the other men "teasing" what they were doing with Laura. That's somewhat leaning towards NTR in stead of NTS. Also, Laura spending more time with the bull than the MC is also a point leaning towards NTR. The game hasnt gone full out NTR, but I'm noticing a shift. And I might be wrong. It's just my impression.

I'm not annoyed. I like NTR. But I like NTR games to stay NTR games and NTS games to stay NTS. But in the end, it's up to le stag where and how he wants this to progress.

 

[Tasty Walrus]

I think there was an increase of texts to MC from the other men "teasing" what they were doing with Laura. That's somewhat leaning towards NTR in stead of NTS.

For example, Nathan texting "Laura wanted me to send you this picture, have a nice day" is clearly NTS. Oliver sending "look what i'm doing with your slut gf" is more NTR. If you see my point.

 

[Tasty Walrus]

Arguing with people who follow your game (Even if they are haters they still draw attention to your project by commenting) isn’t the most ideal approach for the business. I cna understand how frustrating developing a NTS game can be since you can never truly please everyone, but it is clear these arguments are getting under dev’s skin which effects to game’s development. Last few updates felt a bit soulless and stale.

I am not saying devs shouldn’t take fans’ ideas seriously, quite the contrary. But getting into this type of heated conversations never improve the game. I think dev should just ignore this thread for few weeks.

Yes. And if you're making a game in the NTR-category (with all it's subgroups like NTS) you're gonna get a lot of shit regardless of what you do. Comes with the territory.

The first NTR-game I played was My Girlfriends Amnesia by Daniels K. It had NTR, rape etc, but it was ALWAYS optional and given warnings. Still people were angry as hell. He just said fuck it and never did NTR again.

 

[eyegr8knickerz]

So tell me what the hell would make you happy next update, because I really cannot understand what y'all are asking for, and the way I see it, whatever I'm doing, you are complaining.

Obviously its cool that you engage with the fans here and that you are willing to read all the criticism. But if you actually want input for what to do next its probably better to do something structured like a poll or a survey (probably better to do behind paywall also) as it will give you actual data on what your customers want.

 

[Seneschall]

Hey Le Stag, you mentioned you´ve had a lot of trouble creating Pictures with Ashley´s long Hair. I fooled around with AI Picture Generation lately and the results where partially hillariously bad and funny.
Mind to share some of your (spoilerfree if you wish) Artworks that just turned wrong in every way?

 

[Sayonara1904]

For people that are complaining you can just stop playing...

I enjoy the dominante sharing route and make her my slut but even tho i dont enjoy as mutch of the submissive path i enjoy and try to enjoy the story behind and the artwork

at the end of the day Lestag is doing what he enjoys , can half have you unconstructive criticism guys say the same?

sorry in advance by my bad grammar

 

[Sayonara1904]

So do I actually. If laura is growing comfortable sleeping around and with the idea of the MC also doing so it could be really fun, really quickly x)

I would like to see a MC v Laura v Nathan v Ashley whit them in the madhouse chat driving tara crazy whit the messages and pics xD

 

[Tasty Walrus]

I would like to see a MC v Laura v Nathan v Ashley whit them in the madhouse chat driving tara crazy whit the messages and pics xD

everyone thought the game was about corrupting L but it was really about corrupting T all along

 

[Qlippoth]

It's hard for a game that is purely pornography to get too long. There was a story arc of Laura and MC discovering the kink and then getting into it. Now they're into it. The game either has to end or introduce some new conflict. Stories have conflicts, character arcs, and stakes.

 

[Sayonara1904]

It's hard for a game that is purely pornography to get too long. There was a story arc of Laura and MC discovering the kink and then getting into it. Now they're into it. The game either has to end or introduce some new conflict. Stories have conflicts, character arcs, and stakes.

They are trying to corrupt tara, maybe MC and Laura can make her their fucktoy have you wonder?

 

[alex220477]

the right balance, for my way of thinking is, MC starts to try something with Tara, even something more than just sex, Laura now has an open mind and all her holes available for other cocks, okay, but she has crossed the line when she dictates what MC wants next, let me explain better, the game options are annoying, many times, the options are practically the same, or with emoticons that are useless, that's why the game is flat, giving two options to us players who represent the same idea, is wrong and ridiculous, example:
- Yes I want it Laura
- Of course I would like it

these are the useless double answers, they are practically the same, what are they for, now, today, Laura is uncontrollable, before she decided in pair with Mc, now she decides alone or obeys Nathan, and then answers Mc, I repeat, the couple now is Nathan and Laura, with Mc on the bench.