VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.28.1] [Le Stag]

[Lagunavii]

What's the difference between 13.1 and 13.7 I played the same scenes

In terms of scenes, nothing. It's just a more stable version with less bugs.

The last number is just what itteration of the first number we are at. For more scenes that 1st number will need to change.

 

[hlfwaycrks]

In terms of scenes, nothing. It's just a more stable version with less bugs.

The last number is just what itteration of the first number we are at. For more scenes that 1st number will need to change.

jiminy christmas, I thought he was on vacation as of 13.5 and two more have come out since then... it's hard to keep up

 

[Fish_lip]

What do you want to know?

Just wondering how you decided what was niche or not? Was it purely volume of sub-promoting posts vs dom-promoting posts, or was there any actual science behind the statement? Or is it just an opinion?

Brains are strange things- they self-select or prioritise information that tends to agree with the world view that they hold.

 

[Emptyplanet]

Just wondering how you decided what was niche or not? Was it purely volume of sub-promoting posts vs dom-promoting posts, or was there any actual science behind the statement? Or is it just an opinion?

Brains are strange things- they self-select or prioritise information that tends to agree with the world view that they hold.

Just personal experience from engaging with this fetish for over a decade and the content that I've seen. NTS / NTR is a pretty broad subject and I can count on one hand the amount of times I've seen NTS with a dominant MC.

It doesn't really take a genius to figure out why though.

 

[KingsRaiden]

Do the Pop It images count for the overall image percentage?

 

[AcornHunter]

I can count on one hand the amount of times I've seen NTS with a dominant MC.

If you talking about games, you probably right.
If you talking about real life, in young age I knew a lot of examples, but most of the time they ended up in swinging relationship.

 

[Lagunavii]

I've seen NTS with a dominant MC.

Well NTS is doing it with permission. So there is definitely going to be a Dom in the relationship. I've seen it a few times in real life. Some guys just get off watching there woman with someone else, while ordering them around to maintain power (though my argument has always been if your in a room while your partners having sex and you're not the one ploughing her, your power is none existent, but that's niether here nor there)

While in the broad sense of things and it's original meaning, you couldn't really have NTS without Cuckolding... The Cuckold definition has evolved somewhat and in some strokes only really applies while there's humiliation involved.

So depending on your point of view. A Dom Male in an NTS relationship is not really out of the question

 

[Emptyplanet]

Well NTS is doing it with permission. So there is definitely going to be a Dom in the relationship. I've seen it a few times in real life. Some guys just get off watching there woman with someone else, while ordering them around to maintain power (though my argument has always been if your in a room while your partners having sex and you're not the one ploughing her, your power is none existent, but that's niether here nor there)

While in the broad sense of things and it's original meaning, you couldn't really have NTS without Cuckolding... The Cuckold definition has evolved somewhat and in some strokes only really applies while there's humiliation involved.

So depending on your point of view. A Dom Male in an NTS relationship is not really out of the question

We're not talking so much about real life, more-so games, LN's, hentai and other fictional erotica. The content created for cuckolding / NTS is almost exclusively with a submissive or weak POV character or MC. And it's that way for a reason. No one is saying that it's out of the question for a cuckold to be dominant too - what I am saying is that content created with that dynamic is noticeably rare and niche.

And from that conclusion; I question what the demographic for this game is intended to be. To reiterate though I think it's fine if the developer wants to make this type of game, it aint my style but I always side with the creator on what their vision is meant to be. I was more responding to the quote on the original guy I was responding to which was; "I think it's interesting that you make the effort to minimize this so much, and talk about how it's a low minority of vocal people that begged for it" - when that was exactly the case. Most fans of NTS aren't clambering for a dominant MC, it's a vocal minority given that the rest of this fetish (specifically in the fictional world) is heavily, almost entirely submissive sided.

 

[Lagunavii]

Well NTS is doing it with permission. So there is definitely going to be a Dom in the relationship. I've seen it a few times in real life. Some guys just get off watching there woman with someone else.

While in the broad sense of things and it's original meaning, you couldn't really have NTS without Cuckolding... The Cuckold definition has evolved somewhat and in some strokes only really applies while there's humiliation involved.

So depending on your point of view. A Dom Male in an NTS relationship is not really out of the question

We're not talking so much about real life, more-so games, LN's, hentai and other fictional erotica. The content created for cuckolding / NTS is almost exclusively with a submissive or weak POV character or MC. And it's that way for a reason. No one is saying that it's out of the question for a cuckold to be dominant too - what I am saying is that content created with that dynamic is noticeably rare and niche.

Well actually thinking on it you're somewhat right. I can name a lot of games with both NTR/NTS that all end up with the female in the driver's seat.

But I've argued this point on the page for the Couple who like to go on adventures. In terms of any story where the partner is allowed to (or in cases not allowed to) sleep with other men... The stories hers. The male is just there for the ride. I guess it's just easier to tell the story with her in control.

But again I ultimately think its rare to have the male dom in NTS because it all stems from the fact people think NTS they think Cuck, they think humiliation. That's what we need to step away fromthat

 

[Fish_lip]

Just personal experience from engaging with this fetish for over a decade and the content that I've seen. NTS / NTR is a pretty broad subject and I can count on one hand the amount of times I've seen NTS with a dominant MC.

It doesn't really take a genius to figure out why though.

So it's an opinion then, based on other games in the genre?

Sorry, don't want to come off as a douche, I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion. For example I'm more interested in the hotwifing/dom side of the story, (ideally leading up to active involvement in group stuff), but I'm happy for the people more interested in sub route too.

 

[Emptyplanet]

So it's an opinion then

Well I do believe that I am the one saying it, were you expecting peer reviewed studies or statistics on peoples engagement with fictional (or otherwise) cuckolding? Like I said I've consumed a lot of NTS content, almost all of it is from a sub pov. I think that goes beyond just anecdote. Over 10 years and nothing but the same pattern repeated again and again is a sample size large enough to be drawing axioms, I believe. But I think we're treading circles now, don't wanna fill up the thread with rehashed talking points that go no where.

I will just point out though; that you're saying "I enjoy x" when the central point of contention revolved around "how prevalent is x".

 

[alexvandin]

Waited days for android link just to find out memory issues haven't been patched and it still crashes on startup. I don't know how many "it is what it is" I still have in me guys.

 

[rattylarry]

Do the Pop It images count for the overall image percentage?

For what I've seen, at least on Android, If you watch an image, it's added to Cross-Run pictures, even if you don't save the game. That way you can reload a save point between when a chapter ends and an interlude begins, and you may unlock different pictures on the same loop.

 

[Le Stag]

Waited days for android link just to find out memory issues haven't been patched and it still crashes on startup. I don't know how many "it is what it is" I still have in me guys.

I'm sorry. I'm doing my best.

 

[rattylarry]

:sadge: 13.7 and Pop It still not working on my phone.

 

[Silwith]

We're not talking so much about real life, more-so games, LN's, hentai and other fictional erotica. The content created for cuckolding / NTS is almost exclusively with a submissive or weak POV character or MC. And it's that way for a reason. No one is saying that it's out of the question for a cuckold to be dominant too - what I am saying is that content created with that dynamic is noticeably rare and niche.

And from that conclusion; I question what the demographic for this game is intended to be. To reiterate though I think it's fine if the developer wants to make this type of game, it aint my style but I always side with the creator on what their vision is meant to be. I was more responding to the quote on the original guy I was responding to which was; "I think it's interesting that you make the effort to minimize this so much, and talk about how it's a low minority of vocal people that begged for it" - when that was exactly the case. Most fans of NTS aren't clambering for a dominant MC, it's a vocal minority given that the rest of this fetish (specifically in the fictional world) is heavily, almost entirely submissive sided.

True, real life and fantasy aren't always the same In real life a dom guy sharing his gf/wife isn't that uncommon, but in VNs and the like it is almost always a more submissive guy (tho, stuff with a dom guy does still exist of course), this has been true for a long time. While we have not statistics for it, we can safely assume that the clear majority of players play "sub" here, it is simply that those players are content with what they get and therefore are less active in proposing stuff and critiquing

Which brings us to the demographic for this game and the vision... Le Stag clearly has a much easier time writing good dialogue for the sub-paths, but still wants reasonable options for those that aren't into it... maybe calling it "dom" is just kinda putting up too high expectations how "dom" the player can be, because in it's essence the game very much feels more on the subby-road That can be somewhat balanced out, but I kinda doubt it can ever feel like the playercharacter is a actual dom over a sub Laura.

 

[alexvandin]

I'm sorry. I'm doing my best.

Oh no don't worry man, i was only joking about the situation lol, it wasn't criticism against you.
I'm perfectly aware that developing a game is a hard job and that you have your own order of priority
Love your game though, I'll be sure to get back into it as soon as these bugs are fixed!

 

[DressedToThrill]

I'm sorry. I'm doing my best.

I think you're doing quite well at finding and eliminating bugs as you've been developing the game. There are however a couple of game behaviours that might not be bugs, but I consider them immersion breaking and detrimental to an otherwise very immersive experience:

1) The "tendency" messages (i.e. red messages you receive on the sub-route) appear instantly after the previous message, in my game at least. It feels like they spend 0 seconds in typing it out, as opposed to all other normal messages. This breaks the illusion for me that there is a person thinking and typing out a message for you.

2) Very rarely a message sent from me (MC) to whomever, usually the girlfriend, without any prompt to send it. It's kind of creepy, as if someone hacked my phone! Some would argue if there is only going to be one alternative for MC to reply with, then it should be sent automatically, but I disagree and find it immersion breaking, especially since its so rare and seems to go against the game's established philosophy. Not to mention spooky!

 

[BobLeecher]

While we have not statistics for it, we can safely assume that the clear majority of players play "sub" here, it is simply that those players are content with what they get and therefore are less active in proposing stuff and critiquing

There's one person who has those stats: Le Stag
And I'm curious: how many players have done the entierity of available content as dom, balance or sub? If it's something like 25/35/40, it's understandable how much work was needed to cater for dom players. If it's 1/30/69... well, maybe scrapping that content wouldn't be a bad idea (and I say that even though my main save is dom). Though what pleases Le Stag is more important: we would not want a bland project because the author can't do what he likes.

 

[NazdregUrdgrub]

There's one person who has those stats: Le Stag

Le Stag might have stats for people who turn on data collection. How many people do that? Maybe it's always on for mobile but not for Windows.
Most of the arguments are around Oliver. He was introduced way over the top, scaled back, made optional, accidentally left in even if turned off, given a new backstory, and after all that, he's still divisive. But instead of giving a choice to just shut him up, the choice is to skip content or deal with him. You even get a fun guilt trip from girlfriend if you try to kick him out.
If Le Stag put him in just to stir up controversy and get people arguing, he's a genius. Half or more of the players love him but the players who hate him hate him hard.