VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.28.1] [Le Stag]

[Lucen96]

Yeah, there has been nothing like discovering she is an exhibitionist, having a friend being a voyeur, starting to play with showing herself more and to more people, enjoying the idea of sharing her own boyfriend, experimenting with ways to tease and to tell her escapades, etc...

I'm sorry if I try to have a story that goes a bit deeper than "I need more men to fuck me more". Brazzers rejected my application.

so Laura gonna come to the point where she wants to share her own boyfriend? And the player would have no choice but to sleep with someone else?

I'm the kind of player that if I was her boyfriend, I wouldn't want to sleep with other girls. And I'm only interested in Laura in general.
That's why I really liked the idea of Laura being a monopolist about her boyfriend that she doesn't even want her boyfriend to get pictures of other girls....
And at the same time Laura is especially turned on by the fact that sleeping with other guys herself, shows it to her boyfriend, and her boyfriend stays faithful to her no matter what.... especially when she starts sleeping with strangers.

 

[Lagunavii]

Depends, if they talk about it and agree that she gets control and is now allowed to "break" the rules they set in the beginning, now that they have progressed this far, it's still 100% nts, because the MC agreed to it/wants it.

I wasn't complaining. As I said, it's a great logical reason as to why Laura can go of script and add a bit of verity into the game. But the lines are getting blurred and it'll be Laura's actions thereafter to see which side she lands on. And I kinda agree in this case it will probably still be NTS
But, for arguments sake, let's say Laura is out and about with Ashley and she meets a guy she wants to fuck, no time to ask our MC, so does it anyway. Because she has been given control. Would that be NTS or NTR to you? It's a tricky one to be sure.
That example would probably never happen to be fair, Le Stag seems to have his head screwed on but it's a short step from NTS to NTR and the "you gave me control" of "you wanted this" arguments are often used to justify.

All I was pointing out, if done well this idea will work, mishandled and this game suddenly goes somewhere else

 

[Jbuster]

so Laura gonna come to the point where she wants to share her own boyfriend? And the player would have no choice but to sleep with someone else?

I'm the kind of player that if I was her boyfriend, I wouldn't want to sleep with other girls. And I'm only interested in Laura in general.
That's why I really liked the idea of Laura being a monopolist about her boyfriend that she doesn't even want her boyfriend to get pictures of other girls....
And at the same time Laura is especially turned on by the fact that sleeping with other guys herself, shows it to her boyfriend, and her boyfriend stays faithful to her no matter what.... especially when she starts sleeping with strangers.

I'm pretty sure that would still be optional, as Laura ask the mc more than once if he's ok with Ashley sending him pictures giving you the change to say no, and even the blowjob thing was a choice, so I doubt the dev will change that in a dramatic way that goes against what Laura would to, because till now, Laura acts in a very consistent manner as she was presented since the beginning. She loves her boyfriend, loves to have sex with him, and enjoys what they are doing as they are having fun together

There's a chance that the dev fumbles ruining it all?, sure, but that's a risk in every human endeavor so I wouldn't worry that much

 

[Lucen96]

I'm pretty sure that would still be optional, as Laura ask the mc more than once if he's ok with Ashley sending him pictures giving you the change to say no, and even the blowjob thing was a choice, so I doubt the dev will change that in a dramatic way that goes against what Laura would to, because till now, Laura acts in a very consistent manner as she was presented since the beginning. She loves her boyfriend, loves to have sex with him, and enjoys what they are doing as they are having fun together

There's a chance that the dev fumbles ruining it all?, sure, but that's a risk in every human endeavor so I wouldn't worry that much

well yeah, I agree

it's just... when I was playing, I got the impression that there could have been an option where Laura doesn't like the idea of sharing own boyfriend. At the option there could have been other kinks for her... I think so...

I somehow completely missed that Laura has or could have netorase kink...

 

[Lagunavii]

well yeah, I agree

it's just... when I was playing, I got the impression that there could have been an option where Laura doesn't like the idea of sharing own boyfriend. At the option there could have been other kinks for her... I think so...

I somehow completely missed that Laura has or could have netorase kink...

No you're right, Laura at the start said something about not liking the idea of sharing her BF. Unfortunately Ashley has corrupted her, albeit slowly and subtlety. That kink is there and at the moment she's at least curious.

 

[Fyo]

so Laura gonna come to the point where she wants to share her own boyfriend? And the player would have no choice but to sleep with someone else?

I'm the kind of player that if I was her boyfriend, I wouldn't want to sleep with other girls. And I'm only interested in Laura in general.
That's why I really liked the idea of Laura being a monopolist about her boyfriend that she doesn't even want her boyfriend to get pictures of other girls....
And at the same time Laura is especially turned on by the fact that sleeping with other guys herself, shows it to her boyfriend, and her boyfriend stays faithful to her no matter what.... especially when she starts sleeping with strangers.

Agree. Dev should always follow their vision, but I prefer a jealous/possessive Laura.

 

[Silwith]

But, for arguments sake, let's say Laura is out and about with Ashley and she meets a guy she wants to fuck, no time to ask our MC, so does it anyway. Because she has been given control. Would that be NTS or NTR to you? It's a tricky one to be sure.

Well, as long as the MC is in the know that that is something that can happen and is okay with that? Nts clearly. Now, if she never tells him afterwards or even lies then it goes into ntr territory, even if she was allowed to do it without asking. But as long as everything is open without lies? Yeah, nts. It'a all about consent after all.

 

[Lucen96]

No you're right, Laura at the start said something about not liking the idea of sharing her BF. Unfortunately Ashley has corrupted her, albeit slowly and subtlety. That kink is there and at the moment she's at least curious.

ehhh

then I guess there's still room for hope that Laura will turn back to her old self in case the boyfriend shows her faithful.
for example, her heart really loved that the boyfriend doesn't want to touch other girls, and all curiosity and desire will disappear... x_x

and then maybe other kinks will open up for her in this relationship state, like one of the option I described earlier.


Damn, I wish there weren't so many problems with writing stories with a lot of branches

 

[Lagunavii]

Well, as long as the MC is in the know that that is something that can happen and is okay with that? Nts clearly. Now, if she never tells him afterwards or even lies then it goes into ntr territory, even if she was allowed to do it without asking. But as long as everything is open without lies? Yeah, nts. It'a all about consent after all.

So this is where Im saying the lines get blurred, now it can be argued that whenever Laura goes out, now she's open to the life there is always a chance she's going to find another man and the MC would be foolish to think otherwise. Actually quite naive to think other wise.
And so far when she does go out she keeps our MC in the know, so no rules are ever broken. It's very clearly NTS at the moment.

Now Laura has been given permission to go off script so to speak for the sake of surprises. So it can be argued that her going out, pulling a random, fucking him and then telling the MC after the fact... She didn't break any rules... To me this is questionable and venturing to the other side.

Don't get me wrong, I can see the arguments for, I can see the arguments against. But to me, "you wanted me to sleep with other men and you were okay with me doing what I want to surprise you" is weak justification,

Now I don't think the games going this direction anyway. So it's kind of a moot point, but it's a direction it could go or fall into very easily just by having that "you said it was okay" attitude

 

[ichi3000001]

I downloaded the game on patreon but I can't see the apk file, does anyone have information? If you have pixeldrain link can you share it?

 

[Lucen96]

Well, as long as the MC is in the know that that is something that can happen and is okay with that? Nts clearly. Now, if she never tells him afterwards or even lies then it goes into ntr territory, even if she was allowed to do it without asking. But as long as everything is open without lies? Yeah, nts. It'a all about consent after all.

it's hard to understand a border of NTR and NTS...

I think for me the NTS game is when, everything that can happen can be cancelled, after all.

Personally, I chose without surprises. For me, it's preferable to have no surprises at all, knowing everything...

Any unsaid things or lies are already perceived as betrayal, so it's more of NTR.

But in general, if you agreed to surprises, then you should be prepared for her to come with creampied pussy or even pregnant. If you accuse her that this is too much, then this is more of a betrayal on your part, because you gave her freedom of choice.
If you agreed to surprises, and she came pregnant, it's more of NTS, the main thing is that she returned to her own boyfriend and honestly said who the father was...

Of course, she should take into account the interests of her boyfriend. But discussing the boundaries of surprises is like not surprises at all...
Well, for example, it's reasonable that before she comes pregnant from someone else, she needs to understand how much her boyfriend is ready to live with a child from another guy.

 

[Lucen96]

Agree. Dev should always follow their vision, but I prefer a jealous/possessive Laura.

That's true. It's important that it's done from the heart.

 

[Lagunavii]

it's hard to understand a border of NTR and NTS...

I think for me the NTS game is when, everything that can happen can be cancelled, after all.

Yes, you get the point I was trying to make.. Well I think you do.

The minute you give her lisence to do whatever, that door is open to the "well you told me I could do what I want and I'm telling you now" card

It's essentially a lisence to cheat card. She can do what she wants and if ever gets caught, - "I did it for a nice surprise for you, you wanted this darling"

Now as I said, definitely blurred lines because the MC would be naive to think this can't happen, but it's still a bit iffy with me.

 

[KingsRaiden]

No you're right, Laura at the start said something about not liking the idea of sharing her BF. Unfortunately Ashley has corrupted her, albeit slowly and subtlety. That kink is there and at the moment she's at least curious.

The MC can also tell Laura he doesn't like Ashley sending him photos which can cut those down, and he can also reject Ashley from coming over (not sure why anyone would do that) but the options are there.

 

[ichi3000001]

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I downloaded the game on patreon but I can't see the apk file, does anyone have information? If you have pixeldrain link can you share it?

Dude, this game always gives errors on Android. I was able to download the game but like the last 3 new versions I have to delete the old one to run the new version I am tired of playing the game without the save file I can only play the last chapter from memories please find a solution to this

 

[malha_vacas69]

Dude, this game always gives errors on Android. I was able to download the game but like the last 3 new versions I have to delete the old one to run the new version I am tired of playing the game without the save file I can only play the last chapter from memories please find a solution to this

Yeah same. Before 0.14 I was able to just update de old app without uninstalling it. But now I need to back-up my saves, delete everything, install the new update and then put my saves back on the phone in order to play it. I don't know what happened or if Le Stag changed something to the android version but it's becoming an hassle to do it every update. Not to mention that somehow the android version became very unstable and it crashes multiple times before I'm able to properly play it.

 

[Futaloverrx]

Le Stag just played the new update. It was good but short, loved it. I just wanted to ask you if there is some way to play thoese random "between chapters chats" easily, I usually run a pre-chapter backup to get another random chat but it repeats some time.

 

[WhiteFireDaemon]

I wasn't complaining. As I said, it's a great logical reason as to why Laura can go of script and add a bit of verity into the game. But the lines are getting blurred and it'll be Laura's actions thereafter to see which side she lands on. And I kinda agree in this case it will probably still be NTS
But, for arguments sake, let's say Laura is out and about with Ashley and she meets a guy she wants to fuck, no time to ask our MC, so does it anyway. Because she has been given control. Would that be NTS or NTR to you? It's a tricky one to be sure.
That example would probably never happen to be fair, Le Stag seems to have his head screwed on but it's a short step from NTS to NTR and the "you gave me control" of "you wanted this" arguments are often used to justify.

All I was pointing out, if done well this idea will work, mishandled and this game suddenly goes somewhere else

I don't see how that wouldn't still be NTS. Whether permission was given for specific people isn't really the deciding factor between the two. Far as I've ever seen, the difference between the two is basically a matter of whether or not the LI has the mc's consent to sleep with other people in general. That being said, people often will throw out an odd definition, especially on this site, which seems to stem from a lack of in depth knowledge about the terms.

 

[AAhri]

Le Stag , just finished 0.15! What do you mean a short update? It was a GOOOOOOD update. Really fun, really enjoyed it! Never thought to have a call back like this one, you are a good storyteller.

 

[KingsRaiden]

Le Stag love your game, but android version still crashing on my phone. Have you considered releasing lite version of the game, version that will work for folks like me? Maybe this version would have only chapters of latest update, or chapters of few latest updates, which would make it relatively small in size. Thank you for game anyway, hope ill be able to play it again.

There has been much talk about fixing this on the Discord, so going forward it should be resolved.