What are the known issues with the current version? Does it still ignore choices from previous chapters?
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Does anybody know if it is possible to
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I had a lot of fun with my playthrough. got about 53% of all pictures. Went the "cuck" route but it was NTS and I got to have fun with ashley too!
It was fun teasing tara and it seemed like she was just starting to open up.
My thoughts on some of the bulls
This game was really fun because it allowed me to really think about the lifestyle through fantasy. Lots of well thought out interactions.
It had lots of gameplay and our Laura is so fkn cute What a good girl.
Ashley was a fun and playful slut who was harmless. All in all it was a great cast of characters. So bravo on such an amazing game.
That said, will there be a way to officially unluck all the art after a play through? I want the art but dont wanna make the choices that would give me heartbreak HAHA. Am I a coward? YES!!!
Loved the game 10/10
It was fun teasing tara and it seemed like she was just starting to open up.
My thoughts on some of the bulls
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This game was really fun because it allowed me to really think about the lifestyle through fantasy. Lots of well thought out interactions.
It had lots of gameplay and our Laura is so fkn cute What a good girl.
Ashley was a fun and playful slut who was harmless. All in all it was a great cast of characters. So bravo on such an amazing game.
That said, will there be a way to officially unluck all the art after a play through? I want the art but dont wanna make the choices that would give me heartbreak HAHA. Am I a coward? YES!!!
Loved the game 10/10
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Actual I'm pretty fascinated by this game.
I'm often more interested in NTR than NTS, but was willing to give it a shot...
This game is very interesting, and gives you some real good options to define how you want to have the NTS to happen.
There are some options most other games don't touch like condoms (even if it here is tackeld half-heartly), do you want to see her come home sprayed with cum or even have her go commando (later)...
BUT: some of this options are too limited for me (condoms for example: you can choose to wear them everytime, but the bulls will get raw sex...no choice here).
This would be okay for an NTR game, which means on the cuck route I did the 'holy combo# of MC-must wear condom/Bull can go raw/creampies for bulls only...but without real "cheating" this is pointless...
Which brings me to the routes...
Cuck-Route (or even SubmissiveCuck) are "allowed" to much...but more for this later...
Balanced/Switch route I haven't tried out at the moment...
Stag or even confident Stag...oh boy...I ALLOW her to FUCK others...which means: I will SET the RULES...which I can't here totally...see for the condom-question, as a Stag I should also be like: nah...raw is only for me...but no...3rd date with Nathan in the calendar you get the following options: "I go raw first" or "Nathan goes raw first"...man I would have loved to see: Only I am allowed to go raw (maybe give her the option as confident, that she may beg for it)...but no....Nathan is allowed raw after 3rd fuck-date....
Which brings me to the Cuck/Stag/NTS thing:
-As a cuck I don't have a say, it's not about humilation (even so often it is included) but about the partner to get what she needs...the cuck has very little control overall, he has a say maybe, but it's up to the partner to decide what she wants.
-As a stag....yeah cool thing: I love her, she loves me, I think she is hot and maybe others should be allowed to fool with her...which she will do to pleasure ME. In this dynamic, the girl is the one which won't have so many decisions (no she is not a slave, rules are set before - but overall she is doing it for his pleasure...)
- NTS...okay...where to start...netoreare/netorase/netori same family which is based on "to loose something" so in this scenario the guy want to see his girl fuck another male(s)...this arouses him (hence he want this to happen) but also hates it...This scenarios in mangas/animes often in an more or less netorare-ending...
And now to the problem: This game starts....we know nothing about the characters and after some (partially ridiculous) chats we got to decide: do you wann be a cuck, a stag, a switch or be balanced...which is a little bit too early for my taste.
The Bulls in this game are...superb to mediocore...and sometimes all in one person...
If you go cuck-route I would say the best partner would have been mike (since he did not care about MC) but now only Oliver (since he is an dominant asshole) is left...Nathan also has some short "cuck-lines" but overall he is relative tame and more the "charming good friend" which is perfect for the stag-route...
Liam would have been a great idea for the idea of him taking here from you (which would be the most typical NTS to NTR scenario) since she already told MC she thought about him in the past.. (before or after MC was there?)
The story:
Yeah...somehow awkward in the beginning get somehow better in the end, but without a clear timeline (before new messages come in you get the "on evening" "some days later" Tara even mentioning we would do this since some months (iirmc)...so the progression for some characters is somehow non-existant...Good example: Oliver, Laura met him, sucked him, fucked him. HE is now a bull...severall dates later (all fucks are with condom) she goes to park with him (if he is allowed) and here he fucks her raw...okay, nice so from now on....next message from him is her showing some condom he just filled...eh...strange.
Also whenever the possibility exist of MC and bull getting to double-do Laura...MC is somehow "cock-blocked"...
The Art in this game is nice but still AI...but it's somehow lacking the kick....yeah she looks cute and sexy....but show her in different costumes, and splatter her with cum from time to time is not enough to get me hooked. And to be true: the males are all the same (only one with slightly different look was mike...)...which brings me to the cock-sizes...MC's penis is changing size a lot...sometimes it's okay...sometimes a lil bigger...overall Nathan (with the big cock) is just (I would guess) 1 inch more in size. Given the fact I got humilated for being so small...while on stag route she tells every-one MC's dick is the biggest...so making it a pure roleplay, but would be nice to see differences in pictures too...
So overall: I'm torn between love and curiosity for this game. I'm hoping some of this flaws will be flattened out...so I wait for this game to get some more content I think.
I'm often more interested in NTR than NTS, but was willing to give it a shot...
This game is very interesting, and gives you some real good options to define how you want to have the NTS to happen.
There are some options most other games don't touch like condoms (even if it here is tackeld half-heartly), do you want to see her come home sprayed with cum or even have her go commando (later)...
BUT: some of this options are too limited for me (condoms for example: you can choose to wear them everytime, but the bulls will get raw sex...no choice here).
This would be okay for an NTR game, which means on the cuck route I did the 'holy combo# of MC-must wear condom/Bull can go raw/creampies for bulls only...but without real "cheating" this is pointless...
Which brings me to the routes...
Cuck-Route (or even SubmissiveCuck) are "allowed" to much...but more for this later...
Balanced/Switch route I haven't tried out at the moment...
Stag or even confident Stag...oh boy...I ALLOW her to FUCK others...which means: I will SET the RULES...which I can't here totally...see for the condom-question, as a Stag I should also be like: nah...raw is only for me...but no...3rd date with Nathan in the calendar you get the following options: "I go raw first" or "Nathan goes raw first"...man I would have loved to see: Only I am allowed to go raw (maybe give her the option as confident, that she may beg for it)...but no....Nathan is allowed raw after 3rd fuck-date....
Which brings me to the Cuck/Stag/NTS thing:
-As a cuck I don't have a say, it's not about humilation (even so often it is included) but about the partner to get what she needs...the cuck has very little control overall, he has a say maybe, but it's up to the partner to decide what she wants.
-As a stag....yeah cool thing: I love her, she loves me, I think she is hot and maybe others should be allowed to fool with her...which she will do to pleasure ME. In this dynamic, the girl is the one which won't have so many decisions (no she is not a slave, rules are set before - but overall she is doing it for his pleasure...)
- NTS...okay...where to start...netoreare/netorase/netori same family which is based on "to loose something" so in this scenario the guy want to see his girl fuck another male(s)...this arouses him (hence he want this to happen) but also hates it...This scenarios in mangas/animes often in an more or less netorare-ending...
And now to the problem: This game starts....we know nothing about the characters and after some (partially ridiculous) chats we got to decide: do you wann be a cuck, a stag, a switch or be balanced...which is a little bit too early for my taste.
The Bulls in this game are...superb to mediocore...and sometimes all in one person...
If you go cuck-route I would say the best partner would have been mike (since he did not care about MC) but now only Oliver (since he is an dominant asshole) is left...Nathan also has some short "cuck-lines" but overall he is relative tame and more the "charming good friend" which is perfect for the stag-route...
Liam would have been a great idea for the idea of him taking here from you (which would be the most typical NTS to NTR scenario) since she already told MC she thought about him in the past.. (before or after MC was there?)
The story:
Yeah...somehow awkward in the beginning get somehow better in the end, but without a clear timeline (before new messages come in you get the "on evening" "some days later" Tara even mentioning we would do this since some months (iirmc)...so the progression for some characters is somehow non-existant...Good example: Oliver, Laura met him, sucked him, fucked him. HE is now a bull...severall dates later (all fucks are with condom) she goes to park with him (if he is allowed) and here he fucks her raw...okay, nice so from now on....next message from him is her showing some condom he just filled...eh...strange.
Also whenever the possibility exist of MC and bull getting to double-do Laura...MC is somehow "cock-blocked"...
The Art in this game is nice but still AI...but it's somehow lacking the kick....yeah she looks cute and sexy....but show her in different costumes, and splatter her with cum from time to time is not enough to get me hooked. And to be true: the males are all the same (only one with slightly different look was mike...)...which brings me to the cock-sizes...MC's penis is changing size a lot...sometimes it's okay...sometimes a lil bigger...overall Nathan (with the big cock) is just (I would guess) 1 inch more in size. Given the fact I got humilated for being so small...while on stag route she tells every-one MC's dick is the biggest...so making it a pure roleplay, but would be nice to see differences in pictures too...
So overall: I'm torn between love and curiosity for this game. I'm hoping some of this flaws will be flattened out...so I wait for this game to get some more content I think.
we all love to read a big wall of text...
can't wait for Volume II
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Yeah sorry, got a bit overboard...
I often forget most people today don't like to read more than 10 short lines...
tl&dr: game is good, but needs work on some of the paths since stag is not really stag for me...
There are few things that we already said before, so:
- About condom, it was said in past that it's a technical issue for image generation
- The dev already said multiple times that this game is not going and will not go to NTR, he will maybe do a future project NTR, so there's no scenario that bring from NTS to NTR. What you will have in here, is roleplay so that fullfill very good every kink in a well written NTS story
- The fact of Oliver filling condom after raw sex, is probably for a vignette, a random side short story that appears choosed randomly, so it could bring to some of those situations
I think that most of issues you talked about could not easily change in future, but this game also bring some good things you did not mention.
As I said before, there is the fact of facing like every kink of the situation and that's a good pro. The game use NTS for consensual scenes, but still using kink that usually don't match with that scenario.
Most important, the story telling have some lacks, it's true, but it's far from being commonplace and that's very good in a game like this. I mean, think about what happen with Mike, he liked to a lot of people I think (2 at least, you and me!), but he was not used in the usual way, but bringed to a plot twist! That happened also with her ex. A lot of people was very happy for a big dick than he was just not good at sex and like "ruined" it all because those are things that really happen irl and go outside fantasy and make the story more captivating
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Yes it would be a technical issue...but for the MC this was done, why not for the bulls too? Saying the bulls we be allowed raw at some point without real choice to deny it brings us to the next point...
No NTR...which I am fine with. I like ntr, but I also like to play other games too, like this one. But when you decide for yourself you want to set rules (stag-route is the prime example for this) it undermines this by taking choice away... (like: condoms for bulls)
Yes I thought this is the reason this happened...but that is the reason I said I miss a "timeframe" and I am sure with so many flags (we got even more in the last update with the kink list) it must be possible to 'sort' this events and show them within the right "timeframe"
Here I have to apologize...I wrote it not clear enough. For me Liam is the best example of the lame-ass-writing a typical NTS to NTR story would use:
MC says "fuck your ex" - ex has enormous penis (looked nice in the pictures though...) - girl get's fucked - she totally loves it and....tada...ntr...
As is said this would be the perfect example to make this happen this way, luckily Liam is a worse partner than MC (even as cuck) and she won't fall for him.
I love most parts of this game...the ideas with condoms is soooo MY kink...and I mean in every combination.
And for the bulls: I like Nathan he seems like a friendly sport who supports every kink, but I don't like the fact that Nathan seems to be the "one guy get's all"-bull is (and now it seems even Tara might be given to him).
Why can't I let Oliver be the first raw cock...or maybe creampie or even first who does anal...
Why can I suggest raw sex/creampies with nathan at 3 points in the story but never with Oliver (or even the asshole Mike...).
I know: "the technical issues"....but for me this sounds a little bit like an lame excuse since MC got all these variants...
And again: I am at this moment addicted to this game because of some really good decisions that shape the way it goes...but I wanted to write some of the points I would love to get an "upgrade".
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I hope one of the routes we can take with Tara/Nathan is some type of Denial Tease Queen.
She riles Nathan up every photo shoot, but instead of staying to fuck him like Laura she leaves immediately after to fuck MC, who then sends Nathan the pictures.
The condom issue is technical. I'm not sure why, but that's what. You could not like it, but dev choosed to work in that line, there's a reason, it's not for making something you don't like, so if it's gonna be like that, that's what it is! I think it's because of references for image generation and maybe someway differentiate bulls from mc, maybe for the number of pics to generate, maybe for the difficulty to generate same images one with and one without, I don't know!
It seems to me that this is connected to the same problem, so I think there's no much else to say about it
I'm not sure about how vignettes are into code.They don't work with flags, it's not something that could or could not happen except for some specific cases (like a bull you don't agree). It surely could be better if it was related to situation of the conversations, but would be worst if they are coded to happen exactly at that moment, instead now it's a random thing that's good. Only the dev can know if it's something possible
Yeah I get it, in fact, as I said, it's one of the GOOD things of this game because it does not use overused cliches, use every kink (anyway ex kink is there for the one who like it) and it add a special part that's very uncommon in this kind of games. Usually they are just like porn where every situation randomly become a sex scene with no concept of what's happening, instead here is we have game who talk about what really happen in this kind of relationship (yeah, it's still a game and some things are crazy, but not everything). So, also the "ruined" sexy event is a part of this kind of relationship, not all partners are good also when you like it (Mike!) and sometimes it's also bad (Liam!). I like to point on that because the dev deserve also compliments for good things he does so like it's good to give feedbacks about bad things to help him improve
I totally understand why you are sad for that. I'm the one who would like to give more to Oliver than Nathan! Anyway, this is first of all a game and giving every choice in a game is like impossible (actually), so that's a big human limit and even technical limit. In this kind of games, often the branches are manual, in fact dev try to write stories that can be the same also following different paths (for example using same pic for two different context in two different paths).
What I don't agree, is that this sounds a little bit like an lame excuse. Idk if you know what's behind what he's doing, I know what it means and I think is doing like the opposite of being lame! That's an hard complex work and I think he should be working very very hard with a lot of troubles to let you (when I say "you" I mean a randomically "you", not specifically "you") have so much choices in a single game and complain because they are not more is unfair. I get why you don't like that thing, but I mean, when did you play last time a visual novel with more branches? How many VN did you play in your life with more choices than this game? This is not the best ever in the number of branches, but this is written by one person, is a visual novel, is very hard to do and is not even completed so also if I agree with you in the hope of some other choices and to see a lot of them in future, I totally disagree about saying that it seems lame[/QUOTE]
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To specify my statement: Since all pictures are made with ai (which is art itself in some sort) I understand that it would be relativly easy do make the same picture with different persons/details. In hindsight of this I say talking about "technical issues" sounds lame for me...in terms of programming...hell what do I know how hard this maybe...
Still not many other games kick off so many kinks like this game for me (maybe 2 or 3)...so I wait what will come in the future...maybe I even start paying in patron...
And again: I think this game is fantastic...I love the dynamic (even when Laura could get some more MC-Time with talking/sex) between the characters, but since we have 2 specific paths to go for (with a lot of variants) dev should make the options for the path's more distinct.
Example: in cuck-route I would love for Oliver to go raw first, then fuck her ass (since he is a dom either) and maybe even give her her first creampie...best of all: all while teasing me for 1 or 2 dates and then do it (if Laura is allowed to make own decisions).
Still not many other games kick off so many kinks like this game for me (maybe 2 or 3)...so I wait what will come in the future...maybe I even start paying in patron...
And again: I think this game is fantastic...I love the dynamic (even when Laura could get some more MC-Time with talking/sex) between the characters, but since we have 2 specific paths to go for (with a lot of variants) dev should make the options for the path's more distinct.
Example: in cuck-route I would love for Oliver to go raw first, then fuck her ass (since he is a dom either) and maybe even give her her first creampie...best of all: all while teasing me for 1 or 2 dates and then do it (if Laura is allowed to make own decisions).
I don't know how the AI would handle this, but have you considered having Laura ask the MC to wear a cock sleeve or penis extender to let her get used to a well-endowed guy before her next date with one?
Might be the right tone of humiliation for the MC on the sub route.
Might be the right tone of humiliation for the MC on the sub route.
When do you actually choose routes? And how do you do it? Because I actually progressed past first sex with Nathan and have no idea if this already happened or not. I guess I'm on netorase route but don't know what to choose to be the stag. And no less important question... Can you actually fool with other females and how can I activate this?
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Not really! Only one and a bunch of variations to it!
There is no "netorare/cheating", nor "vanilla" routes. All game about netorase only. But you can be either stag (more confident choice) or cuck (more submissive choice) and some gradient of both. There are also a huge number of other choices that change some events.
Yeah, one of those choices is that you can fool with other girl.
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Relative early in the game when the question comes up WHY you want to share her...
- I want to be humilated - cuck route
(with oliver you get the option to switch to submissive cuck - means a lot more degrading for MC)
- I want to slut you out (or so) - stag route
(which can be later, just before she meets Oliver, can be switched to confident stag...where she has to beg you (sometimes) for getting other dicks to fuck her)
- both yes = switch route
- both no = balanced route
BUT...route is maybe the wrong word here, more like "tone of"... you share her no matter what. You also like it...but in cuck-route you will be compared to the better dicks etc, whilst on stag-route she will all guys tell, you are the best, after all.
It's not that easy to generate so much images in so much different ways. It's not that doing it with AI it become so simply, it even become worst sometimes. Same image changing a single detail is like a nightmare to be done, furthermore it depend also by quality and hardware. Image generation require long times for every single picture, to generate a copy of an image you already have is not that easy, you have to prompt to change only that but rarely AI follow changing on details, usually it change other things too and if it keep like a day to generate a wrong image that should be the copy of one another is not that good. If he let you do that choice, he have to double generate every single image he generate and that makes a lot of issues also about time to produce gameTo specify my statement: Since all pictures are made with ai (which is art itself in some sort) I understand that it would be relativly easy do make the same picture with different persons/details. In hindsight of this I say talking about "technical issues" sounds lame for me...in terms of programming...hell what do I know how hard this maybe...
Still not many other games kick off so many kinks like this game for me (maybe 2 or 3)...so I wait what will come in the future...maybe I even start paying in patron...
And again: I think this game is fantastic...I love the dynamic (even when Laura could get some more MC-Time with talking/sex) between the characters, but since we have 2 specific paths to go for (with a lot of variants) dev should make the options for the path's more distinct.
Example: in cuck-route I would love for Oliver to go raw first, then fuck her ass (since he is a dom either) and maybe even give her her first creampie...best of all: all while teasing me for 1 or 2 dates and then do it (if Laura is allowed to make own decisions).
I really would like it
Yeah, it usually have some dynamic text that appears or not based on your path, that's the big difference, so the mood of the dialogues totally change