VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.28.1] [Le Stag]

[deviousstorm]

It's going to be another Oliver date, but she's going to put you and Nathan on group chat so she can tease both of you. It seems Nathan is a bit jealous of Oliver.

Oh really? I wish Oliver was a bit different from Nathan in terms of teasing, and well... cock size / coloring. At least so we can tell a difference between nathan and oliver.

Though I am not personally interested in being called a cuck, I hope that I don't have to travel back to disable that. And can effectively tell Ashley to knock it off with the cuck talk and can just flirt with her.

I love the interactions with Tara though, I wish I could do more with her other than hear she might be masturbating seems to be a slow burn with her.

 

[BuffKat]

It's going to be another Oliver date, but she's going to put you and Nathan on group chat so she can tease both of you. It seems Nathan is a bit jealous of Oliver.

Wait so will that be optional or what? I like Oliver but I'm also very interested in how LeStag would tackle the problem of branches here.

 

[Steve Carter]

Wait so will that be optional or what? I like Oliver but I'm also very interested in how LeStag would tackle the problem of branches here.

Yes it is optional but LeStag warned that the content you chose to avoid won't be replaced with something else, so it will probably be a short update if you refuse the content.

 

[Steve Carter]

if i'd have the knowledge for it, i would love to make a fanmade game, like a VN to see the Laura's side of the story, (not on a phone perspective) see what's passing by her mind and maybe add some kinky things that she do not tell her boyfriend, see her exchanges with Nathan, other bulls, what kind of pictures she send to them, even with Ashley or Tara.
i love the arts of this game and would love to see / create more

The game "Marina's Cuckold Report" told the game by the male MC, but after you see a scene from the MC's point of view, that same scene from the MC's love interest showed up in the gallery so you could then watch it there. What you could do is make a mod for the main game to do the same thing.

 

[javifulgor]

It saddens me to read that the majority hate Oliver and love Tara.

For me it was the opposite.

I'm really excited because it looks like the next update will cover more of the APP SQUARE

 

[Silwith]

It saddens me to read that the majority hate Oliver and love Tara.
For me it was the opposite.
I'm really excited because it looks like the next update will cover more of the APP SQUARE

Wouldn't take that too seriously, the people commenting here are not the majority, most people don't comment here, no need to make more of it then it is
Also exited for some more Squaregram stuff tho and... for me, also for more Oliver ;D

 

[nickohoma]

The game "Marina's Cuckold Report" told the game by the male MC, but after you see a scene from the MC's point of view, that same scene from the MC's love interest showed up in the gallery so you could then watch it there. What you could do is make a mod for the main game to do the same thing.

Need someone who knows a thimbleful of RenPy (I do not) and can do some creative writing to just do it VN-style. I had a blast making images for the Laura/Nathan intro scene, I just don't wanna write narratives from bulls' perspectives.

 

[aqd]

Need someone who knows a thimbleful of RenPy (I do not) and can do some creative writing to just do it VN-style. I had a blast making images for the Laura/Nathan intro scene, I just don't wanna write narratives from bulls' perspectives.

Writing from Laura's perspective I think would work a lot better. especially if there is more than one bull. I could see a couple (non-canon) routes there, to go along with the sub/dom side of things.

Now that has me thinking of the interesting combinations in the relationship:

Laura Dom to MC, but Sub to Bull
Laura Sub to MC and Bull
Laura Dom to MC and Bull?
Laura Sub to MC but Dom to Bull?

Those last two could be kind of fun...

 

[nickohoma]

Writing from Laura's perspective I think would work a lot better. especially if there is more than one bull. I could see a couple (non-canon) routes there, to go along with the sub/dom side of things.

Now that has me thinking of the interesting combinations in the relationship:

Laura Dom to MC, but Sub to Bull
Laura Sub to MC and Bull
Laura Dom to MC and Bull?
Laura Sub to MC but Dom to Bull?

Those last two could be kind of fun...

I mean if I'm wishlisting, I'd love for someone to narrate whoever isn't Laura from whatever scene. I say that just to get a fresh perspective, since we more or less already get Laura's perspective in the messages she sends to MC in game.

Then, if it's good, use that narrative as a basis to make images for what happened in that scene. Call it a "companion game" or something. Like it wouldn't make a lot of sense by itself, but play it alongside the main game.

 

[Sixty]

I mean if I'm wishlisting, I'd love for someone to narrate whoever isn't Laura from every scene. I say that just to get a fresh perspective, since we more or less already get Laura's perspective in the messages she sends to MC in game.

Have you guys asked Le Stag how he'd feel about this project idea? Not throwing rocks at you, I'm genuinely curious if he's seen it.

The things the cuck doesn't share can be hot even if they don't alter the heroine or make her deceptive. Stuff like the intimacy of kissing and touching outside of sex, sweet talk, pet names, all the intimacies that normally go with a relationship. Cuckold stories are about what "should" be shared only with the BF/husband being shared with another man. Just having her make out on the couch with Nathan before the real festivities start and she starts texting the MC could really yank those emotions.

Writing that kind of emotional connection is a way to really reach into those cuck angst feelings and tough for Le Stag to fully incorporate with this format. You're right, it might be fun to write them from Nathan or Laura's view. But (for me at least) only if Le Stag okayed it.

 

[nickohoma]

Have you guys asked Le Stag how he'd feel about this project idea? Not throwing rocks at you, I'm genuinely curious if he's seen it.

The things the cuck doesn't share can be hot even if they don't alter the heroine or make her deceptive. Stuff like the intimacy of kissing and touching outside of sex, sweet talk, pet names, all the intimacies that normally go with a relationship. Cuckold stories are about what "should" be shared only with the BF/husband being shared with another man. Just having her make out on the couch with Nathan before the real festivities start and she starts texting the MC could really yank those emotions.

Writing that kind of emotional connection is a way to really reach into those cuck angst feelings and tough for Le Stag to fully incorporate with this format. You're right, it might be fun to write them from Nathan or Laura's view. But (for me at least) only if Le Stag okayed it.

I haven't, I'm just kicking the idea around, but I look at it as the same as fan art. The fan art thread is full of "what if" scenarios and mini-narratives already. a companion project would be an extension of that. The game sets what's canon. The only people who would even see a fan art project would be those who go looking for it after playing the game.

 

[Henry1887]

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[SanityVoid]

I think the point the groups here can't really reconcile is also on display in the recent comments. The point attempting to be made on those that didn't like the update 10.3 is how it's too close to netorare (ntr) or in English Cuckolding/cuckoldry with many (including the dev) even referring to the other guys has bulls and the comments referring to the cuck.

The lack of boundaries and rules which are core to not only any sharing, consensual cuckolding (there is a difference)
or even regular relationship isn't healthy it's actually kind of toxic. The there is a bunch of different groups here wanting different things and the lack of tags for these and the dev not really having adhered to the label of the game is the source of confusion and some anger.
I should remind you that sharing and consensual cuckolding are 2 separate genres and this is leaning too much into consensual cuckolding instead of sharing for the group here for netorase.

I am not taking any sides (and I'm not kink shaming,) just clarifying why this last update stirred up so much here.
Mostly genre getting twisted.

I would hazard a guess the player primary path choices were something like this:

path : which groups kink followed this path.
balanced : sharing and consensual cuckolding
sub : cuckolding (both) and humiliation
dom : slut gf and sharing

Also slut gf is another genre separate of sharing and cuckolding...

TLDR: the game slipped too far into netorare for those not interesting in such with update 10.3, and needs more route separation and choices having an actual meaning, allowing for kinks to be clear of each other unless the player wants them.

 

[Steve Carter]

Need someone who knows a thimbleful of RenPy (I do not) and can do some creative writing to just do it VN-style. I had a blast making images for the Laura/Nathan intro scene, I just don't wanna write narratives from bulls' perspectives.

Ren'Py isn't that hard to learn. I knew zero programming. I literally bought "Python for Dummies" and watched some videos on YouTube and I had a thimble full of Ren'Py knowledge in no time.

 

[nickohoma]

Ren'Py isn't that hard to learn. I knew zero programming. I literally bought "Python for Dummies" and watched some videos on YouTube and I had a thimble full of Ren'Py knowledge in no time.

Yeah the biggest job is probably the writer. And that's the part I'm saying "boy I wish somebody would" because I don't want to do it .

 

[Silwith]

TLDR: the game slipped too far into netorare for those not interesting in such with update 10.3, and needs more route separation and choices having an actual meaning, allowing for kinks to be clear of each other unless the player wants them.

No it doesn't need that, the people that don't like where it is going WANT that, sure, but the Dev made clear that he has a pretty clear vision he is following. Oliver seems to be avoidable from the next encounter on, but the overall route the game takes is set, the "routes" of dom/balanced/sub are meant as variations... some fluff if you will, that will give a playtrough a different feeling, while the overall story stays the same (tho, maybe with side-character variations)
The Dev is clearly focusing on bringing a good amount of content in a limited time over making actual different routes and his sucess with patreons supporting him proves him right.

The problem overall really doesn't lie in the game, but in the tag-system not being able to accurately portray what a game is about sometimes.

 

[SanityVoid]

No it doesn't need that, the people that don't like where it is going WANT that, sure, but the Dev made clear that he has a pretty clear vision he is following. Oliver seems to be avoidable from the next encounter on, but the overall route the game takes is set, the "routes" of dom/balanced/sub are meant as variations... some fluff if you will, that will give a playtrough a different feeling, while the overall story stays the same (tho, maybe with side-character variations)
The Dev is clearly focusing on bringing a good amount of content in a limited time over making actual different routes and his sucess with patreons supporting him proves him right.

The problem overall really doesn't lie in the game, but in the tag-system not being able to accurately portray what a game is about sometimes.

The dev needs to clear up terminology is something we agree on and is my primary point that even the dev has acknowledged. The other part was however an optional idea for content expansion for other kinks to prevent further genre confusion. Criticism is meant to be constructive after all, and there is always the potential to improve.

Side note: the game is is more willing netorare than netorase has it stands and is implied/semi confirmed to be be heading. Nothing wrong with that, but it is a misused term for a title. Though I would hazard (what ever consensual or willing translate to in Japanese) Netorare Phone is less catchy perhaps of a title. Plus there is already a game named NTR Phone on this site so...

 

[Silwith]

The dev needs to clear up terminology is something we agree on and is my primary point that even the dev has acknowledged. The other part was however an optional idea for content expansion for other kinks to prevent further genre confusion. Criticism is meant to be constructive after all, and there is always the potential to improve.

Fair enough, I can see that.

Side note: the game is is more willing netorare than netorase has it stands and is implied/semi confirmed to be be heading. Nothing wrong with that, but it is a misused term for a title. Though I would hazard (what ever consensual or willing translate to in Japanese) Netorare Phone is less catchy perhaps of a title. Plus there is already a game named NTR Phone on this site so...

Here I have to disagree,

Now, if we go by the definition, then the game is 100% netorase, the MC encourages and enjoys Laura doing what she does, the behaviour of Oliver for example may seem like someone that would also fit into a netorare context, BUT, as long as the MC likes it and encourages it it stays netorase, it does not have to be respectful to be netorase, I think that is the misunderstanding here. This is underlined by the fact that Laura makes pretty clear that she loves the MC and only the MC.
It can be full on humiliation of the MC, as long as he is into it and Laura is his girlfriend and does not get "stolen" by someone it stays netorase.
(Now, we could say your argument makes sense from some players perspective, that want more control, for them it may feel more like ntr, but that is coming from a misunderstanding of the game, the game itself is netorase, the MC is preddetermined to like it and want it, thats the story, so if the player does not like it, thats a problem on the players side)

 

[SanityVoid]

Fair enough, I can see that.


Here I have to disagree,
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Now, if we go by the definition, then the game is 100% netorase, the MC encourages and enjoys Laura doing what she does, the behaviour of Oliver for example may seem like someone that would also fit into a netorare context, BUT, as long as the MC likes it and encourages it it stays netorase, it does not have to be respectful to be netorase, I think that is the misunderstanding here. This is underlined by the fact that Laura makes pretty clear that she loves the MC and only the MC.
It can be full on humiliation of the MC, as long as he is into it and Laura is his girlfriend and does not get "stolen" by someone it stays netorase.
(Now, we could say your argument makes sense from some players perspective, that want more control, for them it may feel more like ntr, but that is coming from a misunderstanding of the game, the game itself is netorase, the MC is preddetermined to like it and want it, thats the story, so if the player does not like it, thats a problem on the players side)

Depending on the accuracy of that definition that actually confirms a thought that I have been having that there is something with the translation vs usage getting lost between translation and usage. Sharing has mentioned is a separate genre take it from someone with a like of sharing less like but still too an extent likes consensual cuckolding, but kind of hate cuckolding and how its used/portrayed.

The difference in genres if true would be : the difference between NTR and NTI is perspective while the difference between NTR and NTS is consent. While sharing the definition not translation would need a separate genre. Much like swinging and swapping are different in nature sharing and Netorase be definition not translation are different genres.

So something really did get lost in translation...
Use vs translation being the point of disconnect...

 

[deviousstorm]

I am wondering does anyone wanna do a favor and post the dev updates? Just the text?