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Antani101

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Yeah, the more I hear about what goes down in this game, the more it sounds like it's inching closer and closer to NTR but the dev doesn't want to just admit it for whatever reason. Maybe I'm just too old fashioned, but I honestly don't see how the MCs can be said to have a strong relationship when femc seems like she's totally turning into an addicted cock slut.
Did you actually play the game? Because honestly it sounds like you're believing some pretty bad takes without bothering to hear out any of the majority of people who are telling you that this isn't a ntr game.

I'm going down the balanced path and honestly there isn't any ntr vibe so far.
I can't talk for the sub party since I didn't play it because it doesn't interest me, but if there are ntr vibes there is still a decision you consciously make, go balanced or stag route and you're fine.

Even Oliver who's definitely written as an asshole is optional because the moment you say to Laura you don't like him and she shouldn't see him anymore he's gone. Dropped faster than you can say Appaloosa.
 

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Did you actually play the game? Because honestly it sounds like you're believing some pretty bad takes without bothering to hear out any of the majority of people who are telling you that this isn't a ntr game.

I'm going down the balanced path and honestly there isn't any ntr vibe so far.
I can't talk for the sub party since I didn't play it because it doesn't interest me, but if there are ntr vibes there is still a decision you consciously make, go balanced or stag route and you're fine.

Even Oliver who's definitely written as an asshole is optional because the moment you say to Laura you don't like him and she shouldn't see him anymore he's gone. Dropped faster than you can say Appaloosa.
Isn't NTR supposed to be a wife having sex with other guys even when her husband doesn't want her to?
 

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I've definitely not seen any NTR in the game so far, I mean the MC is the one who suggests to Laura to start flirting and then having naughty fun with other guys, he's definitely not unhappy or unwilling in any of it
 

salmon312

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I've definitely not seen any NTR in the game so far, I mean the MC is the one who suggests to Laura to start flirting and then having naughty fun with other guys, he's definitely not unhappy or unwilling in any of it
That's why I like NTS games more. That connection between a couple, where one encourages the other to venture out, creates deeper plots.
 

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Isn't NTR supposed to be a wife having sex with other guys even when her husband doesn't want her to?
That's the basic gist of it. It's cheating, infidelity, without the husband's knowledge or consent.
Not an expert mind you, but as I understand it, there's also the component (which is best described as infidelity of the mind), where the wife is being stolen, taken away. ie, she's falling in love with the other dude... And that ain't Laura...
 
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That's the basic gist of it. It's cheating, infidelity, without the husband's knowledge or consent.
Not an expert mind you, but as I understand it, there's also the component (which is best described as infidelity of the mind), where the wife is being stolen, taken away. ie, she's falling in love with the other dude... And that ain't Laura...
As far as I'm aware it's basically the husband knows his wife is having sex with other guys (and girls) but doesn't like it but also can't do anything about it, basically an unwilling cuckold. Which is pretty much the opposite of this game:)
 

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The most difficult scenes/pics for me in this VN/game, are Laura 'lovingly' kissing Nathan...
Those are some very emotionally intimate moments she has with Nathan... But folks worried about Oliver NTR... :LOL:
Honestly I'm poly, so I find perfectly ok that Laura and Nathan have some growing intimacy even if it's only a friendship with benefits like MC and Ashley.

People aren't robots they're meant to have feelings.

The reason I discarded Oliver asap isn't that his path is ntr (it's not) I kicked him out because he's a disrespectful asshole.
 

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It's been said before but I think some people are self-inserting too hard, a common pitfall in games like this with a first-person POV. Maybe it's because I've played a lot of RPGs but I have no problem treating the MC as a character I'm playing, not as an extension of myself. The MC has desires and ambitions that don't necessarily align with my own, and makes certain choices I wouldn't, that's just who he is. At the end of the day this games isn't even an RPG, it's an on-the-rails VN with some mild interaction.

Yes, we as the player can shut down certain things or indicate not liking something, but this is to tailor the experience for the player, to calibrate flavor text and decide what scenes are presented. It's not meant to give the illusion you have full control over everything that happens. Sometimes the only responses available are "Yes", Hell yes", and "Abso-fucking-lutely yes" or some variation - this isn't a mistake, it's to show that the MC is 100% committed to what is happening, and you as a player have no choice in the matter. You personally might not like some the decisions Laura makes, but the MC definitely does.

Yeah, the more I hear about what goes down in this game, the more it sounds like it's inching closer and closer to NTR but the dev doesn't want to just admit it for whatever reason. Maybe I'm just too old fashioned, but I honestly don't see how the MCs can be said to have a strong relationship when femc seems like she's totally turning into an addicted cock slut.
Because the whole point is that the MC wants the GF to become a cock-addicted slut, that's what gets him off. She's doing it for him just as much, if not more so, than for herself. That's what makes their relationship stronger. There's a nice little convo with Tara in the latest update that encapsulates this, where she says she figured the MC and GF would've broken up within a couple of months of opening up their relationship, then admits she was wrong and that she's never seen them happier than they are now.
 

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I love how Tara is finally referring to the MC as “cucky” now, too, it’s very cute! Hopefully that becomes the norm for everyone.
I hate it... and not because of the cuck part, but because of the "y" part... I think the "cutefied" version just does sound stupid... so hey Le Stag , in case you listen... can you give us a 3rd option aside from taking it and telling her not to tell me that? Just let me tell her to let the Y fall, she can call me just "cuck" teasingly, would prefer that SO much... xD Tho I don't know if that would be too much work q.q :D


I'm probably just more sensitive to this kind of thing than most (been cheated on before, and it is a bitch to get over) so any kinda NTR vibes are a no go for me personally. Hopefully the dev sticks to their stated goal of no hard NTR, but since it seems like a VERY popular kink online, they'd honestly be crazy not to include it even if it's just as an 'option'.
Like bro... what else do you want? The Dev made it clear like... 250times now, that this will always stay a NTS games and will never be NTR......
I mean, even aside from the fact that you take it as if the submissive cuck route is the only thing the game does, of course the route that focuses on humiliation and stuff has "ntr vibes"... doesn't mean you have to play that route OR that it suddenly has to fall into actual NTR...
 

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I have never been so incredibly disappointed in my life as when that orgy got yanked out from underneath me at the start of this update...and then nathan gets drunk, stays over and she doesnt' come see you like she promised. Yeah i went back and skipped that party at that point. Completely ruined.

Edit: actually i guess she did...still probably my least favorite update so far. You can't dangle the carrot like that and then yank it away...the rest of the update is just a letdown then.
 
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I have never been so incredibly disappointed in my life as when that orgy got yanked out from underneath me at the start of this update...and then nathan gets drunk, stays over and she doesnt' come see you like she promised. Yeah i went back and skipped that party at that point. Completely ruined.
It's true that you don't get an orgy \ threesome, but she does come to see you
Or at least, it depends on whether or not you respond to the chat
If you don't reply, I think they have sex and she doesn't come to you
If you do reply, I think she comes to you and you fuck her
At least that's what I recall happening when I played it
 
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I have never been so incredibly disappointed in my life as when that orgy got yanked out from underneath me at the start of this update...and then nathan gets drunk, stays over and she doesnt' come see you like she promised. Yeah i went back and skipped that party at that point. Completely ruined.
Not sure which route you're on. In my balanced save she was only blowing Nathan to get the name of his girlfriend. Once gotten she abandons him, if I recall without even finishing him off, to join the MC. Even when playing dead and not responding to the chats she joins the MC.
 
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It's true that you don't get an orgy \ threesome, but she does come to see you
Or at least, it depends on whether or not you respond to the chat
If you don't reply, I think they have sex and she doesn't come to you
If you do reply, I think she comes to you and you fuck her
At least that's what I recall happening when I played it
ill have to go back and try again then. i was trying to express my disapproval of her blowing off her "daddy" for another guy in our apartment by not responding, but apparently that's not a thing.
 

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ill have to go back and try again then. i was trying to express my disapproval of her blowing off her "daddy" for another guy in our apartment by not responding, but apparently that's not a thing.
The scene actually changes quite a bit
First time I guess I was on a more balanced route, where she blew Nathan for the GF's name, and I responded at the first option, if I recall correctly she swallowed his cum and came to the MC
Second time I played the stud route, she offered anal for the GF's name, I didn't respond at all so it was a full sex scene with Nathan, and if I recall at the end she came to MC, he fucked her pussy, gave her a creampie while cum was still leaking from her ass, and that was the end
 

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The scene actually changes quite a bit
First time I guess I was on a more balanced route, where she blew Nathan for the GF's name, and I responded at the first option, if I recall correctly she swallowed his cum and came to the MC
Second time I played the stud route, she offered anal for the GF's name, I didn't respond at all so it was a full sex scene with Nathan, and if I recall at the end she came to MC, he fucked her pussy, gave her a creampie while cum was still leaking from her ass, and that was the end
Isn't this tied to the previous choice of letting Nathan fuck Laura ass?
 

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Isn't this tied to the previous choice of letting Nathan fuck Laura ass?
I'm assuming that it would be
But it's one of the options you can choose when you replay a chapter, so you can test how it differs
Haven't tried all possible routes, as for recent updates we don't really have images locked behind specific routes, which I honestly like
 
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The scene actually changes quite a bit
First time I guess I was on a more balanced route, where she blew Nathan for the GF's name, and I responded at the first option, if I recall correctly she swallowed his cum and came to the MC
Second time I played the stud route, she offered anal for the GF's name, I didn't respond at all so it was a full sex scene with Nathan, and if I recall at the end she came to MC, he fucked her pussy, gave her a creampie while cum was still leaking from her ass, and that was the end
Yeah, this scene is totally different whether you're on balanced, sub or dom path. And depending on the path and whether you reply or not during the scene, Laura can either fuck Nathan or just blow him then come back to you, or spend the night with him if she thinks you're asleep.

Isn't this tied to the previous choice of letting Nathan fuck Laura ass?
Probably, but I'm pretty sure the main catalyst here is who you decided should christen the new bed. If you decided Laura should christen it with you, Nathan isn't getting more than a blowjob tonight, while you get the main course. Sorry, mate (or not)! :LOL:

For example, first playthrough for me, on balanced and after deciding I should christen the bed, although Nathan is allowed to fuck Laura's ass, all he got was a blowjob, and all I got was... 7 pictures out of 17. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Yeah, this scene is totally different whether you're on balanced, sub or dom path. And depending on the path and whether you reply or not during the scene, Laura can either fuck Nathan or just blow him then come back to you, or spend the night with him if she thinks you're asleep.
There is also a choice to allow her to wake you up (possibly with a BJ), that has to have some influence as well


Probably, but I'm pretty sure the main catalyst here is who you decided should christen the new bed. If you decided Laura should christen it with you, Nathan isn't getting more than a blowjob tonight, while you get the main course. Sorry, mate (or not)! :LOL:

For example, first playthrough for me, on balanced and after deciding I should christen the bed, although Nathan is allowed to fuck Laura's ass, all he got was a blowjob, and all I got was... 7 pictures out of 17. :ROFLMAO:
damn getting all the pictures will be a bit of a chore :LOL:
 
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