VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.28.1] [Le Stag]

[Ankhesenamun]

Very mature statements here. Why then writing in a public forum?

Not everyone has the capacity to be held accountable by the forceful and unfounded validation of their feelings that they presented, showing them as dogmatic and unquestionable, even when it was them, themselves, who brought this onto a place of debate (?).

It's a rethorical bait-and-switch, one presents an argument to be discussed, then cowers behind a faux shield of "I owe you no explanation". Those two appear to be immensely immature, with the Limp Bizkit type of "fuck you biatch I owe you nothing" comebacks. Don't bother. He thinks he has the mic drop, but will keep picking it up and coming back to argue pointlessly.

 

[Suntar]

I simply cannot let you have full control, period. The game would be unable to progress in a cohesive way. The "Dominant" path was never planned as giving you control, which is why I rebranded it, because people always assumed it should, when it can't.

I feel like a big part of their resentment might actually stem from interludes.
It's in the interludes where Laura visits her bulls randomly and without (explicit) prior agreement. Sometimes you even get messages from the bulls.
Maybe you could group these NTS interludes and make them avoidable like Olliver's and Mike's?


I really can't think of another reasonable way to interpret their critiques. Everything else is avoidable already.

 

[Suntar]

That was a mistake then that actually sparks alot of the talks going on now.You should have been more clear on that from the start.Hell if it was your vision all along not for the MC to have full control then the two paths of balance and sub is enough.Isnt the point of a Stag to either have control or have a balanced grip on things?And i am having a convo here not point fingets at the bad Dev.Your vision is your vision and people chose to play/pay your vision.Just a clear vision-interpretation of things sparks less controvery.

My man, he cannot give you full controll because he's creating a linear game with branching paths.

Here's what's going on:
You have a number of roads to choose from to drive your car from point A to point B. However, you're complaining you cannot drive off-road through the forrest and are demanding an aditional road be built just for you.

 

[Ponos13]

My man, he cannot give you full controll because he's creating a linear game with branching paths.

Here's what's going on:
You have a number of roads to choose from to drive your car from point A to point B. However, you're complaining you cannot drive off-road through the forrest and are demanding an aditional road be built just for you.

And did i say otherwise in my statement?Thats why i said the two paths was enough.The dominant one shouldnt have been in from the start.Since it doesnt help in the linear part of things.Where do i demand anything in my post??He gave the off road part at first and not me.Then it wasnt compatible with what he wanted to move the story forward and changed it.Read again please.I say why there is controversy atm.I dont complain or demand anything.I dont pay him anything to demand anything.

 

[Suntar]

And did i say otherwise in my statement?Thats why i said the two paths was enough.The dominant one shouldnt have been in from the start.Since it doesnt help in the linear part of things.Where do i demand anything in my post??He gave the off road part at first and not me.Then it wasnt compatible with what he wanted to move the story forward and changed it.Read again please.I say why there is controversy atm.I dont complain or demand anything.I dont pay him anything to demand anything.

Dominant was renamed to "Confident". Precisely because of misconceptions like yours.

There's so many paths in the game precisely to give players as much controll as possible. Why is that bad, just because it doesn't fit your exact preconceived notion of what the path should be?

 

[yourmomma]

Good on you for fixing it. Idk why I left the ES3 bit in, it was bound to cause issues eventually...
Where's the credit though?

I'm sharing my build again (for v0.22) because I have trust issues in random DLL files online, and this way I can attach the source again.

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Where do the source code files go?

 

[bp111]

Feels like some people are taking the 'routes' far too literally. They're mostly just flavour text. I get the impression Stag doesn't want a sprawling story that takes off in different ways and similarly doesn't want to write 5 different versions of every scene.

You are given options, skip content you don't like, remove most people you don't like and have the conversations treat you in a way you do like.

 

[George311]

Where do the source code files go?

If you have to ask, ignore them. They dont do anything in the game.
Theyre for building the mod yourself, and allow you to verify it doesnt do anything shady.

 

[Ponos13]

Dominant was renamed to "Confident". Precisely because of misconceptions like yours.

There's so many paths in the game precisely to give players as much controll as possible. Why is that bad, just because it doesn't fit your exact preconceived notion of what the path should be?

Again where i i stated its bad?I feel you dont read what i write...I have no preconceived notions about anything.He started a path named Dominant.People took that at word value as they should have.He changed it and end of story for me.Where again i said it was a bad change.i said it started controversy at some point cause it took a path people thought it whould be in the story.I havent demanded him to change it back now have i?Its his story he knows his vision better.And its my previlege not to like it or not.Or comment on it.I am pretty sure i havent bad mouthed him or said anything negative to him.

 

[Suntar]

Again where i i stated its bad?I feel you dont read what i write...I have no preconceived notions about anything.He started a path named Dominant.People took that at word value as they should have.He changed it and end of story for me.Where again i said it was a bad change.i said it started controversy at some point cause it took a path people thought it whould be in the story.I havent demanded him to change it back now have i?Its his story he knows his vision better.And its my previlege not to like it or not.Or comment on it.I am pretty sure i havent bad mouthed him or said anything negative to him.

You are criticizing him for a mistake that he has already corrected.
What else is he supposed to do? Travel back in time?

Afterwards you said the path was not needed, at the very least implyimg for LeStag to stop continuing it and focus on the other paths.

I also meant to adress my first post to everybody that's constantly complaining about a lack of control on the confident path. Just using your post as an example

 

[Ronjonsurf69]

I guess just be happy to be Laura's cucky.

 

[Aladin01]

I guess just be happy to be Laura's cucky.

Anytime

 

[Le Stag]

That was a mistake then that actually sparks alot of the talks going on now.You should have been more clear on that from the start.

I have been. I've always said you would never have full control. Repeatedly. I can't make people understand if they don't want to, and I got tired of repeating the same things over and over again.

Hell if it was your vision all along not for the MC to have full control then the two paths of balance and sub is enough.

The point of the "very" paths is to allow people to have more choices in the degree of things. Not every sub wants the same thing.

 

[Neonviolet]

I have been. I've always said you would never have full control. Repeatedly. I can't make people understand if they don't want to, and I got tired of repeating the same things over and over again.



The point of the "very" paths is to allow people to have more choices in the degree of things. Not every sub wants the same thing.

A problem with these people is i don't want to be rude to anyone but looks like they want to pretend to be stupid like when a dev tells you it's always going to be nts don't ask each update like an idiot is this ntr now why did this happen why did that happen ‍‍‍

 

[HoM11]

I have been. I've always said you would never have full control. Repeatedly. I can't make people understand if they don't want to, and I got tired of repeating the same things over and over again.



The point of the "very" paths is to allow people to have more choices in the degree of things. Not every sub wants the same thing.

Ah, see, but you could have just named the game "Netorase Phone: there will be no NTR, players will not have full control over girlfriend's every action, there won't be multiple routes for every character because that's too many variables, choices are often for flavor and to break the wall of text, girlfriend won't have a new lover every update and some lovers will have more content than others", so that people would have their expectations set from the beginning. Such an easily avoidable problem.

 

[Turian01]

Sounds more like they are interested in "Vanilla Phone" or "Harem Phone" since the "more freedom" they want are choices like denying Laura to progress with Nathan and him using condoms, on top of sending away Oliver, Mike and other bulls. And more sex with side girls for the MC.

 

[HoM11]

Sounds more like they are interested in "Vanilla Phone" or "Harem Phone"

Got half of that covered.

 

[Antani101]

"Netorase Phone: there will be no NTR, players will not have full control over girlfriend's every action, there won't be multiple routes for every character because that's too many variables, choices are often for flavor and to break the wall of text, girlfriend won't have a new lover every update and some lovers will have more content than others"

It just rolls off the tongue doesn't it?

 

[Cherubin25]

Sounds more like they are interested in "Vanilla Phone" or "Harem Phone" since the "more freedom" they want are choices like denying Laura to progress with Nathan and him using condoms, on top of sending away Oliver, Mike and other bulls. And more sex with side girls for the MC.

This. Netorase in this game is absolutely mandatory and obviously this means that you will not have full control. Full control would mean to tell Laura outright that she should not fool around with anyone. So I guess your suspicion that people who want full control are more interested in Harem-games is most likely correct. (Not that it is bad to be interested in a Harem-game or Vanilla-game. But then this game is not the right game for those people)

 

[Antani101]

Sounds more like they are interested in "Vanilla Phone" or "Harem Phone" since the "more freedom" they want are choices like denying Laura to progress with Nathan and him using condoms, on top of sending away Oliver, Mike and other bulls. And more sex with side girls for the MC.

Don't forget the opposite crowd who want Laura to be gangbanged by lots of dudes while the MC is denied any contact with any other girl.

Truth is you can please everyone some of the time, or you can please someone every time, but you can't please everyone every time.