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Tyyyr

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I really tried to get into this one, but sadly it gets boring very fast. But being boring isn't even the worst part.
The game is as exciting as having sex only after filling out a consent form and having a lengthy discussion about it before and after. At some point the game even makes a big deal about how their chat room is a "save space", calling it that over and over.

There is no drama, no difference of opinion, no disagreement about anything. Every person seems to be part of some consenting hive mind. It's creepy.
 

ryg88

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The game was not intended to have multiple real branches that depend on choices
So... this is more of a kinetic novel or something, and the choices only lead to different pics but still all follow a very linear story?
 

ryg88

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That's good to know.

In general, other similar games should really indicate whether they are a kinetic novel or not. This helps prevent the default assumption of some players, wherein it is assumed that AVNs follow branching paths and different ends based on decisions made by the player.

Just because player decisions are present, it doesn't rule out being a kinetic novel.
 

jaques

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That's good to know.

In general, other similar games should really indicate whether they are a kinetic novel or not. This helps prevent the default assumption of some players, wherein it is assumed that AVNs follow branching paths and different ends based on decisions made by the player.

Just because player decisions are present, it doesn't rule out being a kinetic novel.
A kinetic novel by definition offers zero player input. So yes, any player decision rules out it being a kinetic novel.
Just because it follows the same story, and the decisions doesn't change it overall, they still change the tone of the story and shows variants of, or even omits, certain scenes.
 

LadyRoth

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I really tried to get into this one, but sadly it gets boring very fast. But being boring isn't even the worst part.
The game is as exciting as having sex only after filling out a consent form and having a lengthy discussion about it before and after. At some point the game even makes a big deal about how their chat room is a "save space", calling it that over and over.

There is no drama, no difference of opinion, no disagreement about anything. Every person seems to be part of some consenting hive mind. It's creepy.
Yeah, like. I enjoy it, but I def don't think I'm the target audience. I don't even see a point to there being different flavors of cuckold like the save menu suggests when all your decisions are essentially made for you.
 
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I actually really like that everybody in this game does their kinky nonsense responsibly and with clear communication and little in the way of judgements. It's a welcome break from other "relationship" porn games where the conflicts feel token and manufactured, or require the characters to act like morons for no reason.
 

Le Stag

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I actually really like that everybody in this game does their kinky nonsense responsibly and with clear communication and little in the way of judgements. It's a welcome break from other "relationship" porn games where the conflicts feel token and manufactured, or require the characters to act like morons for no reason.
That was my goal. There are hundred of porn games full of conflict and drama. I wanted to write one showing "perfect" people, that communicate like adults, maintain healthy relationships, and discover their kinks respectfully.

I'm tired of the way Netorase is usually represented, and I will not do the same. This is a positive NTS game, and it will stay that way.

If you want conflict, yeah, you're not the target audience. That's not a problem, you can just go play one of the many games full of conflict. Just, please stop asking me to change the very essence of the game. Not everything has to be made for you.
 

Axel34

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That was my goal. There are hundred of porn games full of conflict and drama. I wanted to write one showing "perfect" people, that communicate like adults, maintain healthy relationships, and discover their kinks respectfully.

I'm tired of the way Netorase is usually represented, and I will not do the same. This is a positive NTS game, and it will stay that way.
BASED
 

HoM11

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That was my goal. There are hundred of porn games full of conflict and drama. I wanted to write one showing "perfect" people, that communicate like adults, maintain healthy relationships, and discover their kinks respectfully.

I'm tired of the way Netorase is usually represented, and I will not do the same. This is a positive NTS game, and it will stay that way.

If you want conflict, yeah, you're not the target audience. That's not a problem, you can just go play one of the many games full of conflict. Just, please stop asking me to change the very essence of the game. Not everything has to be made for you.
I don't recall anyone specifically mention it: I really appreciate that with the healthy relationship and communication goals in mind you A) use all the dirty talk with Laura explicitly expressing how she loves sucking cock, getting fucked several times a day by different men, unabashedly calling herself a cock-hungry slut, etc., while at the same time B) use a huge amount of heart emojis and reassurances of love from both parties.
Cute slut is an underrepresented archetype.:giggle:
 

Le Stag

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I am building a good game with good characters who do everything right - and the others are not. This is his explicit claim.
Yes, it is. Most NTS/NTR games are full of dumb characters acting like assholes toward each other, including the people they're supposed to love.

I hate that, and I want to write something different.

But nowhere did I say these games were bad. They just show bad people. And that's not what I want to show. I want to show good people, having good NTS relationships with each other.
 

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Hey Le_Stag.

I just want to tell you that your game is still great :O I love it and im waiting for new update!


Can you please tell us what's planned in the nearest future? Which kink and with who you will try to introduce to the game?
Also is there planned some action between Ashley/Tara with Olivier? Or Nathan?
 

Le Stag

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Can you please tell us what's planned in the nearest future? Which kink and with who you will try to introduce to the game?
Also is there planned some action between Ashley/Tara with Olivier? Or Nathan?
I can't tell you too much about the future because I deliberately don't plan too much ahead. Both because it allows me to react to feedback, and because I think NTS works best when at least some of it feels spontaneous, while planning tends to remove that.

So basically, I have specific plans for chapters 47 and 48, a vague idea of what I'll do for 49, and basically no idea of what I'll do after that. :D
 

HoM11

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Bottom line: what I find annoying is that the dev insinuates that ONE specific style of ethics is absolute, that there are no others.
I'd say it's you who insinuates something that isn't there. Very confidently so, I must say.
For me just to communicate openly doesn't equate to being responsible. Even being consensual isn't enough to be responsible in all situations.
Nothing in LeStag's post implied that those things are enough/the only things needed to be considered responsible. But! You are not responsible if you're not communicating openly in a relationship. You are not acting responsibly if you're not doing things with consent. You are not responsible if you're not treating other people's kinks with respect. You're not an adult either. And a lot of games don't have that, therefore, characters in those games are not acting like responsible adults.
His sentence goes on - and in that he describes his game - implying that the other games don't do that and aren't that.
Yep. And it is true.
That was the context in which the whole discussion started. There are a ton of other NTS games where couples, partners, spouses of several years can't simply talk about their wishes to the person they, supposedly, trust the most, and instead go through some convoluted schemes, involving, among other things, manipulating the gf/wife, "subtly" pushing them into the arms of their male (optionally buff/black) friend to see how they will react, installing fucking cameras in their house, tapping into their phone. It's a trope at this point where MC sees his gf being touched by a gym trainer or someone like that and thinks "OMG! Is he touching her ass? I should stop that but... why why does it make so horny?" And the gf (who, we assume, is older than 6-10 years old and thus should be aware of proper boundaries, thinks "OMG? Is he groping my ass? I should stop him but... maybe I'm just overreacting?"

And yes, a relationship that has open communication, respect, and non-judgement is "better" and healthier than the one that doesn't have it. People who do that are doing it right, people who don't — are doing it wrong.

I am building a good game with good characters who do everything right - and the others are not. This is his explicit claim.
You might want to check the definition of explicit. Even though LeStag confirmed that was what he meant, he didn't state it outright in the original post. So it was in implicit claim — Implied or understood though not directly expressed.
 

LadyRoth

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Not sure who's been asking the dev to change the 'heart of this game', as I'm not about to read 300+ pages of horny --

But I'll express my interest in seeing an NTR route or more NTR flavor in this game with the dev's logic and writing prowess behind it. After all, he talks about bad and dumb characters in other games, so I assume an NTR route wouldn't be 'bad or dumb' in this game paired with his ability to write likable characters. I do not expect this to happen though, so I am mostly thinking (or typing) out-loud.

Otherwise, as much as I dislike the lack of real, actual choice, the dev's portrayal of NTS and healthy relationships between all the characters are superb and have no doubt caused many gallons of fluids to be spilled. Kudos!
 

Le Stag

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But I'll express my interest in seeing an NTR route or more NTR flavor in this game with the dev's logic and writing prowess behind it.
And I'll tell you the same thing I said to others: as you guessed, you won't see that in this game, except for potential roleplay chapters.

I want to write a full NTR game later though, but it's going to be a different project. ;)
 

HoM11

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Not sure who's been asking the dev to change the 'heart of this game', as I'm not about to read 300+ pages of horny --
Understandable. At this point even searching this thread to see if it was asked before, is kinda hard. But yes, there were a lot of people asking for it. Frequently. And despite the response being the same every time, they kept insisting on it. EDIT: and not necessarily politely. In a game called "Netorase Phone". That states on the first page "The game focuses on Netorase / Hotwifing, with mutual consent and respect between all involved parties."
 
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And I'll tell you the same thing I said to others: as you guessed, you won't see that in this game, except for potential roleplay chapters.

I want to write a full NTR game later though, but it's going to be a different project. ;)
With the same kind of open communication and mutual respect? I'd honestly love to see that.
 
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