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lechieur6

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everyone who complaining about memory leak and PC problem...
I am IT guy too, who also worked in big game development company and here my recommendation:
buy more memory
buy GPU
buy new PC
This is year 2024
new 8GB memory, which is more than enough, cost 11 USD
mini PC with Windows 10, 8GB memory cost around 80-100 USD
new decent GPU starting around 100 USD
many hours of developer work to fix your specific random problem without any guaranty it will be fixed - cost 2000-3000 USD at least
please, do the math
so, if a decent gpu alone is 100, let's assume a full decent computer is 300( doesn't matter for the point anyway). a dev will spend 3000 to fix a low rig problem.
so now simple math, if AT LEAST 10 persons have that problem, it is more efficient for the dev to fix the problem. i love math, do you?
 

kikomascado

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Sorry, not sorry, I do like the humiliation and degradation with Oliver :x Nathan is there for more wholesome! xP
But that's my point! Despite all the trash talk, I found Oliver's sex all too vanilla, just like what Laura already have with Nathan. :cry:
 

AcornHunter

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it is more efficient for the dev to fix the problem. i love math, do you?
no it is not
we created the game on Unreal Engine which we sold back in the day for 59.95
before that we did very serious testing on different PC configurations and we ended up with
"recommended specifications"
because even with crazy sales of the game resolving individual problems even of 100-1000 customers is tooooooo expensive
you want the developer with free-to-play game to spend hours for troubleshooting for 10 non-paying customers?????
really????
spend 10 dollars on memory upgrade, mathematician
 

Le Stag

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What i love in this game is that there are many routes available for us to choose from.Personally i love every kind of nts(dominant,submissive etc) so i dont mind but what worries me from this roadmap is that i notice a heavy swift towards more dominant route(oliver not being an asshole for example).I like the dominant route as i said but i really hope dev dont focus only on that and keeps making content for humiliation/submissive route cause there arent many nts game with good humiliation play.For example the humiliation scene with nethan roleplaying is by far one of my favourites scenes in any nts game.There should be diversity and let people just choose the route they want to play
Don't worry, I'll do my best to work on all routes equally. If I'm working on the Dom one a lot, it's because I neglected it until now. It didn't have a Very Dom variation, and a lot of dialogues didn't fit with a Dom MC. ;)
 

Silwith

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But that's my point! Despite all the trash talk, I found Oliver's sex all too vanilla, just like what Laura already have with Nathan. :cry:
Ah well, fair enough, I think his Sex could be kinkier and harder, certainly, but I do like his personality being so different, even if it didn't get mirrored in the Sex yet, but maybe Le Stag will give us some harder stuff with him in the future ;D
 

kiziero

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Don't worry, I'll do my best to work on all routes equally. If I'm working on the Dom one a lot, it's because I neglected it until now. It didn't have a Very Dom variation, and a lot of dialogues didn't fit with a Dom MC. ;)
yeah i know.Tbh as i said i like both dominant/submissive but when it comes to your game i am faaaar more interested in the submissibe/humiliation role cause as i said there arent a lot of good humiliation nts games.I feel that a lot of nts devs are afraid that people ll call their game ntr if they offer this content so they avoid it completely:(:(Thats why i got worried,cause i got afraid u d also abandon the humiliation route.I can get dominant from other games if u d abandon that i wouldnt be afraid.Thanks for clairifying though that u will work on all routes.I believe that is the correct choice.
Also just a suggestion,on the submissive route if u pick that u dont want to reclaim LI in the first chapters,i notice that until now even on that route u always get to reclaim her (wihout having a choice not to)and i think that is kinda contradicting.Wouldnt it be better if on that route there is no reclaiming at all?
 
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SicarusDK

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What I don't get is this; WTF is MC on the "dominant" route still so damn soy? A dominant male, who would "lend out" his girlfriend, would never accept that he himself couldn't do anything with Ashley and Tara when Laura basicly has an entire relationship with Nathan (not that he would want that either, but that's an entirely different discussion).

Maybe it should just be two different games instead. Lots of the narration doesn't make sense from a dominant perspective anyway.

Love the "game" though and it's got huge potential, especially if AI-aided video were to be added, similar to how "Lucky Phone" do it.
 
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Princess Groundhog

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Also just a suggestion,on the submissive route if u pick that u dont want to reclaim LI in the first chapters,i notice that until now even on that route u always get to reclaim her (wihout having a choice not to)and i think that is kinda contradicting.Wouldnt it be better if on that route there is no reclaiming at all?
Agreed, the very sub route should have zero sex for the MC.
 

Silwith

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yeah i know.Tbh as i said i like both dominant/submissive but when it comes to your game i am faaaar more interested in the submissibe/humiliation role cause as i said there arent a lot of good humiliation nts games.I feel that a lot of nts devs are afraid that people ll call their game ntr if they offer this content so they avoid it completely:(:(Thats why i got worried,cause i got afraid u d also abandon the humiliation route.I can get dominant from other games if u d abandon that i wouldnt be afraid.Thanks for clairifying though that u will work on all routes.I believe that is the correct choice.
Also just a suggestion,on the submissive route if u pick that u dont want to reclaim LI in the first chapters,i notice that until now even on that route u always get to reclaim her (wihout having a choice not to)and i think that is kinda contradicting.Wouldnt it be better if on that route there is no reclaiming at all?
While I think it would be a interesting thing, it should probably evolve, so it starts out with the "reclaiming", then kinda letting that term fall off until in very-sub the MC could even be in chastity and have no sex himself with laura anymore. It would feel wrong to do that from the get-go though.
Wouldn't worry too much about the sub-routes tho, while much of the discussion here is about the dom-parts, I think the majority of the games fans can actually be found in the sub-route.

What I don't get is this; WTF is MC on the "dominant" route still so damn soy? A dominant male, who would "lend out" his girlfriend, would never accept that he himself couldn't do anything with Ashley and Tara when Laura basicly has an entire relationship with Nathan (not that he would want that either, but that's an entirely different discussion).

Maybe it should just be two different games instead. Lots of the narration doesn't make sense from a dominant perspective anyway.

Love the "game" though and it's got huge potential, especially if AI-aided video were to be added, similar to how "Lucky Phone" do it.
You are wrong, sorry... a dominant male can very much be totally fine to be monogamous while he lends out his girlfriend, now, I do agree on the nathan dynamic, a proper dom would completly keep the reigns, so he would be the one deciding when and with whom she is allowed to sleep, but saying someone can't be a dom if he accepts that his girlfriend doesn't want him to sleep with other girls doesnt sit right with me. (Now, of course that would be different if Laura was the one initiating the whole thing, agreeing to something she doesn't want to give him would be weird, but she was totally fine being monogamous with the MC, the MC was the one that wanted her to fool around instead!) Though, that doesn't mean they can't come around to it or something, I only disagree with that premise :D

PS: What AI aided videos? Lucky Phones "videos" are pretty much a row of pictures, not real videos right? I only play the version with the edited pictures of the devs wife, not the pure ai version :D)
 

Fish_lip

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That goes into completly different thing happening on routes again tho, there are enough people that like Oliver in principle (even in the "harder" state he is right now) and dom players can then avoid him if the rework isn't enough for them, having him branch into two paths, one were he contiues and one were we do what you said, then we are back at the problem that making content will take longer and longer.

I think Le Stag going with the approach to make some characters/things avoidable, but keep the overall routes of them simple is good, because the nice development-cycle, instead of the typical months between updates, is also a selling point of the game :)
Fair point. Some of the fan art over here got me to thinking through different scenarios.
edit: also just realised- dammit, another kink unlocked!
 
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lechieur6

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no it is not
we created the game on Unreal Engine which we sold back in the day for 59.95
before that we did very serious testing on different PC configurations and we ended up with
"recommended specifications"
because even with crazy sales of the game resolving individual problems even of 100-1000 customers is tooooooo expensive
you want the developer with free-to-play game to spend hours for troubleshooting for 10 non-paying customers?????
really????
spend 10 dollars on memory upgrade, mathematician
funny how you immediately change to a completely different situation than the one you first gave. if i was a teacher i would rate your answer to the initial problem: 0.5/10. please read the problem carefully to prevent going off topic.
 

silverghost1024

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I have to say I really enjoy the game so far and the potential, The fan art for this I think show how much potential for the game.

I personally like the dom route as it been going, but a more Dom route would be interesting. I need to do a pass on the sub route as well. As a developer I can appreciate how this game can have a lot of branches, which would make chapters harder to write. A simple example of the mc being a submissive and denied makes a chapter very different in which the MC is not and controlling more or partaking in the action remotely in some way I would say more so some chapter would only make sense for certain routes. The other challenge I see is that this is all on the phone.. so the interface for some of the suggest DOM routes would be harder to do as the MC is not there, and how would he do stuff like be part of the act, or have a interaction in person with a female, or do an actions like guide the bulls into her.

I will add that some interesting options would be:

1) Laura having some light or heavier BDSM stuff routes for her to submissive and or more dominate like
2) getting a boob job, or piercing on the nipple or clit
3) other routes for the MC with women, such as maybe they both share picture as they are doing a different partner.

I have other ideas as well... but to be honest I think the work and effort to handle to many path ways would easily sloe down the game development. It hard enough as is, given small breaks in the content I have seen so far as how gets to come in her raw first and follows up about if the MC gets her raw or not. These are all great items that allow for fun replay and exploration that I have not seen in other phone games like this.

I do like how this keep a positive connection between the two, as it could easily go to a break up route and toxic relationship, which I would really not enjoy. The positive aspects of the relationship and them being together makes this way more enjoyable.
 

JS.Anonfox

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Because, apparently, I'm a lot less of a Dom than I thought.

Which is why I'm currently reworking the Dom route. ;)
Perhaps, just scrap the Dom route all together if you're not comfortable with it. Do you want to make Art or do you want to make a product? As the old proverb goes, you can't make everyone happy and you would be a damn fool to try. Make this game as authentic and true to yourself as you can. Make this game as if you where making it for yourself. <Insert other inspirational quotes> you get the picture. I think engaging characters and a good story outweigh anything else.
 

Adamska

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Self-contained story "loops" added to what's already present in the main/core story will add a lot of value, without having to rework everything from the ground up or having to create a million flavor text variants. The big takeaway seems to be that the Dom perspective should better establish a feeling of MC being the decision maker, but that doesn't always need to come mid-scene.

I'm thinking of extra tone-setting scenes that a Dom (or Sub) route would get before or after the main story events. They would be scenes in a vacuum that trigger for each route, like how the interludes are triggered only based on the player preference of Dom/Sub (if the code allows). For the Dom route, the goal would be to show examples of how Laura looks to MC's preferences before making decisions.

1. MC talks with Oliver before CH27 starts to coordinate a meet-up and agreeing on details (flowing into the current story with Laura getting the text from him later on in the day at work).

2. Laura and MC tease Oliver during a Dom route meet-up where she threatens to leave (and will if MC asks her to), and Oliver has to beg DoMC to let her stay for the session to avoid blue balls. Please let me work with Laura to give that douche blue balls, I would be so happy.

3. MC driving over to pick Laura up from Nathan's like most Doms probably would if she's too tired one night. I know this one is more than a loop since the start of the next day would then need to change as well, but "outs" like that would be nice in future sleepover content.

etc. etc.
 
4.20 star(s) 165 Votes