So would you loose interest in a game if the reclaiming wouldn't happen? Im just honestly interested in how this works for different people.
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I kind of wish there was a route where Laura stayed a bit innocent. Willing to go through with sleeping with others, because you want her to, but not fully being ok with it. Like a route where she does want you stop her, but she won't tell you to do it because she's too committed to helping you live your fantasy and not because she's actually into it.
Nathan seems like a relatively decent guy, so he won't go too far, but Mike seems like an absolute asshole who would go too far if you let him, but then you get pulled back with you realize that for story purposes, Mike is just acting like an asshole for the sake of the fantasy. Nathan's role seems fine, but Mike's role suggests that a scenario with real stakes could happen, then you realize it's actually just part of the roleplay.
Either way, I'm still enjoying the game.
EDIT: I might have confused Mike with Oliver. It's been a minute since I last played.
Nathan seems like a relatively decent guy, so he won't go too far, but Mike seems like an absolute asshole who would go too far if you let him, but then you get pulled back with you realize that for story purposes, Mike is just acting like an asshole for the sake of the fantasy. Nathan's role seems fine, but Mike's role suggests that a scenario with real stakes could happen, then you realize it's actually just part of the roleplay.
Either way, I'm still enjoying the game.
EDIT: I might have confused Mike with Oliver. It's been a minute since I last played.
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I agree with you. And yes, I want to punch Oliver in the face as well. Mike is the third guy she starts dragging into her debauchery. I think she sucked his dick in one of the first "adventures" but never took it further. But I agree, I think it builds up nice up to a point where it kind of becomes a bit too much. Also, Nathan goes from being a playtoy to being a second boyfriend. That's a bit too far. People have different taste, i just liked it better when she had some cute innocence in her in the beginning. I just lost interest around midway through the game.
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As I tried to tell Dealbreaker in our discussion, it is not this easy a difference! NTS is about being in it together, having fun, spicing up your sexlife, whereas NTR corrodes anything it touches! Look at your typical NTR game, we have cheating, behind the back actions, sinkhole behaviour of most characters, break ups, humiliation, etc.
NTS is about having fun together with wild sex included, NTR is about a masochistic drive to see a relationship going down in flames and becoming as... in the process.
If you put it this way, I wouldn't disagree with what you are saying here at least without further thought. This is a new aspect, namely the consequences for the relationship, does it remain stable or not. Still I get the vibe that you have a certain normative vision of a functioning kink vs a destructive kink and you use it to kick other models out of the definition.
And concerning "fun": I always struggle with this, sexual kinks for me are never simply "fun" like going to Disney world or something. It is too existential for that. Fun maybe part of it but there is always struggle and power involved, the need to know, the fear of losing someone, questions of performance, competition etc. this is not just fun. For a professional football player, the games aren't just fun either, to use an example.
Hi and no, I do not want to kick out other kinks at all. If the sub players want humiliation, denial, treated like a doormat, etc, be my guest that is their kink. It simply has nothing to search in balanced or Stag/Vixen paths.
I started the discussion with you since I interpreted your post as wanting to bring denial and humiliation onto all paths in the game.
Let's drop for a moment the quesstion of definitions and of the games' direction. I'm above all interested in the psychology behind those kinks and their proper appreciation.
So if I may ask, taking the situation in the game as example: the MC is obviously nudging is gf to go forward with other guys. You are apprently interpeting that in the paradgim of a "balanced of stag/vixen" path. So: what exactly is his motivation in that very moment in your perception, what does he get out of it watching his girlfriend doing that? Because I have a feeling, that here starts the difference to what I (and others) call NTS, in this motivations and feelings.
Same thing after restart and reset of game, during Chapter 25. WTF is wrong happened, can't understand.
Definitely . The whole drive for me is seeing her after she has "cheated" and having make-up sex. Her telling me she still loves me most and stuff. It wouldn't work any other way, it would be a boner kill in the long run if she was never sweet again to me. Either way my interest in the game is already fading as I believe the best parts are already done. If I could I'd take it in a more wholesome direction. The way the game is also limits things to just phone messages and pictures. An interesting part of the game is squaregram, though not much comes of it.
Imagine we get a really innovative update that allowed a multiplayer feature. Our game clients could sync and we could essentially have a live version of square gram where we could comment. If we could join a chat with other players sharing their gf Laura or Ashley, Tara. It would be hilarious, kinda kinky but how you would program all this ???
Automated responses would be boring. Once you collected all the pictures, bored. At this point Laura would literally just be an ai bot lol. It doesn't make sense really.. this game is more structured in chapters with a storyline. I think the dev really has to think of like 3 solid endings for this game realistically.
A mixture of Voyeurism, presenting her more sexual fun than a single man can give (let´s face it, no matter how good we are in bed, there comes a time our "best friend" cannot get up again that evening), proud to have such a great girlfriend/wife, happiness she has fun and being wild/slutty, getting hot for reclaiming her, taking her back.
It is about having kinky sexual fun together, both being fully ok with what goes on. Being clear what can be done and what is a red line not to be crossed. Humiliation and denial have no place here, that is something which invariably sends a relationship on the wrong course over time, because of the inherent discordance.
Thanks, I understand now better, what you mean, and where the differences are compared to the other paradigm. As I see it you are talking much more about sexual action and performance and satisfaction, the cuck paradigm talks about possession and disposssesion. Also you seem to see yourself and your gf as a sort of team with the common, shared aim to maximize pleasure, whereas the cuck sees himself in a play of power, control and possession which is not played together, as a team, but against each other so to speak (notwithstanding close emotional bonds of course, but it is a struggle BETWEEN, not TOGETHER). For him it's about access and non-access, for you it's about performance.
Quite correct, my take-on is about the Stag/Vixen view of NTS. You two are in it together, the Stag participating most times (e.g. from simple cuddling to group sex, gangbang), but even if the Vixen is underway alone, it is a shared experience in many ways.
For instance, her coming home unshowered and with spermbreath is an important factor, showing she had fun. (Showering before returning unless absolutely necessary due to circumstances is like hiding it) And then off to reclaiming fun. To compress some things here, think about the old and more innocent song "Save the last dance for me", because in essence it´s verses say "Have all the fun you like, but at the end of it, you are in the arms of the person you love".
See why humiliation and denial have no place in the Stag/Vixen version of NTS?
Would that include impregnation by another guy or would that go to far within this framework?
And is it always the case that he has fun with other girls as well or could she say no/ he voluntarily decline that?
Most simple example: some people don't have jelousy. I mean complete zero. So, they look at their love partners not like on object they own, but with love, respect and happiness if the partner happy, even if the partner happy because of sex with somebody else. Long time ago I had girlfriend like that. When we have conversation about jelousy, she told me, if she comes home and find me in the bed with another girl the only question she'll ask if I want her to join or go make a breakfest for everbody.
That depends on the Stag/Vixen couple in question, what they decide together is acceptable. If both are ok if an "Oops" or deliberate impregnation might/will happen someday, then that is not a problem. They went into it together and knowingly.
Deception, behind the back or one forcing it on the other, that is s... and has nothing to search in Stag/Vixen NTS.
The same for if the guy has fun with other girls of if he voluntary declines it. These are decisions the couple makes together. If they are both happy with the rules, do´s and don´ts they agree on, then it is well.
Reached the end of the version.
What is good
Story is well written and satisfactory.
Character models are good.
Step by step corruption is nice.
What is bad
Male characters are all same like you might think there is only one guy who plays multiple roles lol. No old, younger(inexperienced) , fat, femboy, skinny guy. So there are 4 males and all are at same age range and have same body type.
Also sex positions are all too similar and her facial expressions are all same too.
But regardless it is fun game.
What is good
Story is well written and satisfactory.
Character models are good.
Step by step corruption is nice.
What is bad
Male characters are all same like you might think there is only one guy who plays multiple roles lol. No old, younger(inexperienced) , fat, femboy, skinny guy. So there are 4 males and all are at same age range and have same body type.
Also sex positions are all too similar and her facial expressions are all same too.
But regardless it is fun game.
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