Seeking netori (?) games

[boglear7]

So basically its https://f95zone.to/threads/my-neighbors-lonely-wife-2-final-yasaniki.165360/ and https://f95zone.to/threads/hero-party-must-fall-v0-5-8-test-1-nitrolith.100153/ yes?

That's pretty much it yes? Everything else we get is one token minor LI/scene, some garbage that looks like Second Life screenshots from 2005, instant loss slop, stuff where LI might as well be single and doesn't act at all like they're cheating, and other shit that completely misses the psychological aspect that is the entire point of netori?

 

[hysepReC]

So basically its https://f95zone.to/threads/my-neighbors-lonely-wife-2-final-yasaniki.165360/ and https://f95zone.to/threads/hero-party-must-fall-v0-5-8-test-1-nitrolith.100153/ yes?

That's pretty much it yes? Everything else we get is one token minor LI/scene, some garbage that looks like Second Life screenshots from 2005, instant loss slop, stuff where LI might as well be single and doesn't act at all like they're cheating, and other shit that completely misses the psychological aspect that is the entire point of netori?

High quality, netori heavy games are rare indeed. Love, Lust & Rock n Roll is good if you can stomach the low quality graphics and RNG elements. All the girls have partners and, as a bonus, you are also cheating on your girlfriend. The dev has a heavy cheating fetish and knows how to write hot scenes. I haven't played Kingdom of Subversion in quite a few updates but it has multiple married women and the corruption is good. Especially for Titania. Love how the MC manipulates her. Imperial Chronicles is on my list of games to try. Apparently, it has quite a few married women you can bang but I can't vouch on the quality of the scenes yet.

Beyond that, I'd probably just recommend Japanese games. They tend to be smut heavy with little story but at least they don't waste your time with a bunch of side girls. You can search the netori tag on VNDB. I played

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one recently and it became one of my fave nukiges. I don't think it's on F95 for some reason but you can easily find it on other websites and the MTL is tolerable. MC is a fat otaku that steals his best friend's girlfriend and she doesn't just break after the first sex scene. You get good resistance from her even after she cums her brains out multiple times. Studio Pork and heiantei make a lot of netori games and they are usually pretty decent.

P.S. if anyone knows games that have scenes where you can feminize/fuck the cuck too like in Hero Party Must Fall and Vae Victis, let me know lol. I love that.

 

[Doorknob22]

... Imperial Chronicles is on my list of games to try. Apparently, it has quite a few married women you can bang but I can't vouch on the quality of the scenes yet...

Imperial Chronicles has several married women to cheat with, from lowly bar owners to rich nobles and of course: the queen, who is also the MC's mother.

 

[boglear7]

High quality, netori heavy games are rare indeed. Love, Lust & Rock n Roll is good if you can stomach the low quality graphics and RNG elements. All the girls have partners and, as a bonus, you are also cheating on your girlfriend. The dev has a heavy cheating fetish and knows how to write hot scenes. I haven't played Kingdom of Subversion in quite a few updates but it has multiple married women and the corruption is good. Especially for Titania. Love how the MC manipulates her. Imperial Chronicles is on my list of games to try. Apparently, it has quite a few married women you can bang but I can't vouch on the quality of the scenes yet.

Beyond that, I'd probably just recommend Japanese games. They tend to be smut heavy with little story but at least they don't waste your time with a bunch of side girls. You can search the netori tag on VNDB. I played

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one recently and it became one of my fave nukiges. I don't think it's on F95 for some reason but you can easily find it on other websites and the MTL is tolerable. MC is a fat otaku that steals his best friend's girlfriend and she doesn't just break after the first sex scene. You get good resistance from her even after she cums her brains out multiple times. Studio Pork and heiantei make a lot of netori games and they are usually pretty decent.

P.S. if anyone knows games that have scenes where you can feminize/fuck the cuck too like in Hero Party Must Fall and Vae Victis, let me know lol. I love that.

It seems like you sort of get what I'm on about but not really. What is hot about netori is the conflicting loyalties.

It isn't just: There are people in relationships who you can have sex with.

This is a very simplistic and frankly incorrect understanding of the fetish.

Most of the games suggested in this thread (which I have searched through at length, Imperial is for the most like this with mostly one offs in what I played) fall into this category, and are to netori what would be an NTR game where you have a girlfriend who leaves your apartment occasionally and comes home with a "yes, we had sex" without further elaboration/images.

As far as I know, really the best example is the neighbor game, but I will look into your Rock & Roll one even if the art is atrocious.

I have searched the VNDB under that tag as well, but most of it above a 7/10 falls into the instant loss category which eschews the psychodrama/realism for mind break instant loss. There's also a lot of shota/ugly bastard shit which is just unplayable garbage.

I don't know why its so hard to find a game/vn about seducing someone else's girl, but it is, whereas there are 8 AI cuck games a minute shitted out on the site.

 

[hysepReC]

I don't know why its so hard to find a game/vn about seducing someone else's girl, but it is, whereas there are 8 AI cuck games a minute shitted out on the site.

I would argue that these cuck games aren't any better in regards to the things you're complaining about. How many netorare plots have you seen where the girl is realistically seduced into cheating? Not many, I'd wager. 99% of the time it's just pure porn logic: the girl gets blackmailed/raped until she likes it (usually only takes a few scenes, if that) or she simply sees the antagonist's big dick and becomes an instant slut.

Have you tried Game of Hearts? The MC is a demon with a magic dick so some level of 'mind breaking' is inevitable but the game is quite good about showing the wife's dilemma of her love for her husband vs the MC's demonic influence. I'm trying to think of other games that really emphasize the moral dilemma of the woman but... nothing comes to mind.

Edit: It's not the main focus of the game like you want (sadly it's just a minor part) but Lineage or Legacy has probably the most realistic depiction of seducing a taken girl I've seen in any VN.

 

[Zelerix]

Man cut the chit chat and start dropping game titles smh this is not harvard

 

[hysepReC]

Man cut the chit chat and start dropping game titles smh this is not harvard

I literally am doing that. I know reading is hard but there are links to game threads in my posts, click on those and move on instead of bitching. Or better yet, make your own recommendations if you don't like mine.

 

[Anonio333]

Love, Lust & Rock n Roll

I wish this one have more pleasurable graphic. Can't stand it and force myself to start playing.

Man cut the chit chat and start dropping game titles smh this is not harvard

This is a forum and most of titles have been already mentioned. If you want more netori, discussions are necessary. The more people know about this theme, the more will like it and more devs will want to cash it by making new games or introducing netori LIs into existing games.

 

[simplyDavchik]

fin

 

[hysepReC]

I wish this one have more pleasurable graphic. Can't stand it and force myself to start playing.

Understandable, I was put off for a long time myself. But good writing and hot scenarios are more important to me than art so I gave it a try and ended up liking it. The dev said he plans on changing his art style for his next game so hopefully it will look more appealing than this one.

 

[Double oo7]

I wish this one have more pleasurable graphic. Can't stand it and force myself to start playing.



This is a forum and most of titles have been already mentioned. If you want more netori, discussions are necessary. The more people know about this theme, the more will like it and more devs will want to cash it by making new games or introducing netori LIs into existing games.

Lls means?

 

[itshowyoumetme]

Lls means?

LI = Love interest

I wish this one have more pleasurable graphic. Can't stand it and force myself to start playing.

If I don't mis recall, the graphics improve with time. I remember having the same reaction, the first part was rough but I think it got better. I seem to recall the netori scenes being worth it to "power through" but to each their own.


As for other netori games that focus on the actual betrayal/conflicting loyaltues I'd mention Game of hearts. It comes a bit too close to mind control at times for my preferences but I think it generally sticks the landing.

Given that game content for this aspect is fairly lacking, I would once again make an honorable mention to Ai dungeon, Character AI, or if your pc can handle a good language model, Silly Tavern.

Ai dungeon in particular (for F2p, use bard mode for added context) are able to capture the psychological, guilt angle quite well. Ai dungeon is usually more constrained by the quality of the set up, either by you or the creator of the scenario but once done it has very few if any restrictions. Character AI is pretty much always decent but also fairly generic and will go along with pretty much anything without too much pushback. And silly tavern while using a good language model is better than all of them and is entirely customizable for your preference.

 

[Factor96]

So, in the spirit of the earlier brought up best of list, I'm going to make a list of netori games that, on some level, involve punishing a jerk. To begin with my main clear example, I choose Urban Demons, or more specifically the remake version as discussed here:

Lmao yeah. Both games give you the "oh yeah they're all 18" thing. But in the remake it's actually believable. OG was very suspension of disbelief in that regard. Very much leaned into "18 but he's just kinda very childish and short wink wink". Remake makes the MC actually look and act like a dude who's just unfortunately short and not even by that much this time around. As stated, there are 4 married characters, all plowable. Two are your bullies' mothers. One is kinda a slut already. The other is more defiant but "comes around" after you "cum around" lmao. And yes, eventually you absolutely rub it in their sons' faces too.

Note, being on Linux means I can't even play the above currently. I bring all this up there is something... really satisfying on multiple levels about humiliating a jerk. I first encountered this in Fresh Women, even though(at least in season 1), you don't really get to enjoy it that long in the scheme of things, but it was amazing to tell an asshole straight to his face that you had slept with his wife. That she divorces him soon afterwards makes it even better.

 

[2 0 0 4 f o r e v e r]

https://f95zone.to/threads/hinsdale-days-v1-0-3-hinsdaledays.282739/

don't know if this is on here, have 1 avoidable netorare (Maya femdom?)

 

[mightbgodlike]

Here's 2 new ones one is a demo, haven't played yet but the description fits Netori

https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-fantasy-final-zhenxin-tech.283067/

https://f95zone.to/threads/professor-wakayamas-ntr-classroom-demo-rabbit-class.283020/

 

[Blackowl97]

https://f95zone.to/threads/hinsdale-days-v1-0-3-hinsdaledays.282739/

don't know if this is on here, have 1 avoidable netorare (Maya femdom?)

Is the route a main route? I see Is completed,dont want to be dissapointed haha

 

[boglear7]

I would argue that these cuck games aren't any better in regards to the things you're complaining about. How many netorare plots have you seen where the girl is realistically seduced into cheating? Not many, I'd wager. 99% of the time it's just pure porn logic: the girl gets blackmailed/raped until she likes it (usually only takes a few scenes, if that) or she simply sees the antagonist's big dick and becomes an instant slut.

Have you tried Game of Hearts? The MC is a demon with a magic dick so some level of 'mind breaking' is inevitable but the game is quite good about showing the wife's dilemma of her love for her husband vs the MC's demonic influence. I'm trying to think of other games that really emphasize the moral dilemma of the woman but... nothing comes to mind.

Edit: It's not the main focus of the game like you want (sadly it's just a minor part) but Lineage or Legacy has probably the most realistic depiction of seducing a taken girl I've seen in any VN.

I would argue that NTR doesn't have that component as a necessary condition. I think that fetish is more self contained, and the most important psychological aspect is that of the cuck/reader being acted upon, while the LI is mostly unimportant except as an intermediary (this also seems to be the thing irl women complain about with irl cucks).

TBH I don't even think NTR and netori belong in the same category, netori is really a variety of a corruption fetish whereas NTR is a variety of humiliation fetish.

For example, I think getting the LI to betray something else, like the vows of a priestess, a friend, some political cause, or just social acceptance via the appeal of the MC is a lot closer to what netori is about than NTR.

Similarly I think sph, femdom pegging, sissyfication, etc, is much closer to NTR.

(Lineage or legacy)

Will check out, in spite of the chinstrap clown MC lol.

(Game of Hearts)

I have... I will be honest I can't do (realistic) faty LIs. In nipponese games I can sort of cope (I'm kind of confused why every japanese woman irl weighs 40 kilos and this seems to be the irl standard of beauty Japanese men look for, but in H they're all cow titted lumps of flesh, but anyway...) but when they're blender gobbos its just too nasty seeing some stumpy tree trunk legged hag. Fiction, especially porn fiction, should be aspirational.

Being honest again, that's not really what stopped me though. I don't enjoy netori that begins with the MC and the LI having sex, for obvious reasons given what I've already said.

 

[gamerrr11]

Is this one https://f95zone.to/threads/mind-control-twisted-thoughts-v0-25-beta-specialmind.188539/?

That scene was one of the hottest things I've seen in an AVN

 

[hysepReC]

For example, I think getting the LI to betray something else, like the vows of a priestess, a friend, some political cause, or just social acceptance via the appeal of the MC is a lot closer to what netori is about than NTR.

That's exactly what happens in Kingdom of Subversion. The MC's mission is to corrupt women into breaking their oaths. This could be their marriage vows, their oath to protect others, their oath of purity/chastity etc. Give it a try if you haven't already.

 

[2 0 0 4 f o r e v e r]

Is the route a main route? I see Is completed,dont want to be dissapointed haha

nothing to worry, about Maya, you can choose femdom (basically netorare), which mean you're going to give her money, act like a simp, and get no actions while she's going to do it with other men(? idk i read the comment and it seems like it, i didn't do this route) or you can be her sugar daddy, be assertive and take control of her, eventually make her submit to you.
if you like corruption in general, game is pretty nice too.