Unity NeToRi Phone: Bull Simulator [v0.2] [SM Games]
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so are you forced into stealing the gf, or can you just enjoy a relationship where you just help a fellow brother out?
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Nope. Not talking out my ass. I do know what a quean is. I wouldn't have taking the time to post related links and such.
Having come back to this a bit latter and re-reading my post with the replies -- you both are correct and while my phrasing is incorrect. Laura is not a quean not being exclusive to MC. I do know that. I mistyped my thoughts.
My excuse is my ADHD is usually full on once I start typing fast in stream of consciousness. I get my thoughts crossed, dropping or jumbling words (especially dropping negating words like "not" - which has bit me in the ass at work), have to re-order sentences due to my out-of-order & tangent thoughts, etc. It can make for a 'jarring read' by the reader or a misunderstanding.
At work, I have re-read/edit my email 3-5 times before sending to make sure I don't fuck up. I have to do that *all the time* & I fucking hate it. And then I still make mental typos - just to a lessor extent. In a more casual setting like F95, a post might get a glance over (or two) before I post. Not like it is going to piss off senior management who has no latitude and other stuff to catch up on before EOD. And after long work day, I don't usual care cause my brain is exhausted from extra work to match the neurotypicals.
The Le Stag story is pretty decent showing how significant the dynamics of relationships can change over time -- which made criss-crossed paraphrasing be me more likely. (FYI, if a reader hasn't check their work, they should.)
As I did mention refering back to the OP, "It the semantic challenge of english being subjective depending on interpretation, the receiver's mindset, etc." (See, I even dropped "is" in" It *is* the semantic ...")
Hence with my ADHD, refering to one thing when I was thinking of another tanget thought and misspoke. Hell, folks living the life do it too. Here's couple of first hits of startpage.com
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(the first reply claims she's both. Is that possible, IDK.)So yep. ADHD bit me in the ass ... again. Sucks to be me. (I suspect a few folks on F95 can relate.)
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(this will be a two part post. first for tanstaafl l as I figured out my disconnect. second for Netori Dev with some feedback, though this multipart thread might be helpful for what they are planning.)
Being aspie, I always have to reflect on what miscommunication I had (tangent thoughts, dropped segways, etc.) so I can try to avoid it again. So on the commute to work I was reflecting on these posts. I figured out, due to being neurodiverent, the posts went like a conversation with my wife.
She speaks in generalities, then might move into specifics whereas I (with engineer brain) am three levels deep into specific(s) and must back out to generalities then circle back to the specific(s) so she sees my connections.
Again, you're correct. In general, Laura is not a quean. She's been corrupted (my portmanteau: enslutification XD). As I previously mentioned, her transition in to the overall (umbrella) open relationship lifestyle. She's going through phases: managed, unmanaged, sharing MC, and where my dropped/disconnection is the "quean" remark. And now MC is doing so to. They both are growing together and at the same time.
(IIRC) It's where she tells them she'd like to try out what it feels like for MC -- to experience what it's like for him being a cuck. To be there while Ashley and MC fuck. Now whether she caves & participates, help manage MC fucking Ashley, or sits back to film (jilling off during or later to the video) -- we'll find out. But for the moment, she'd ... briefly ... be queaning.
The Le Stag story is covering quite few kink definitions over time, where they blend together into a sampling each aspect for the player.
For example, MC has be a been a cuck. Now that Laura has allowed Ashley to BJ him several times, and him desiring it, is he still a cuck? He's been desiring to fuck Laura and appears he'll get to. So, he's no longer exclusive to sexual activities with Laura. It appears they moving further into a swinging/open relationship.
He's cleaned up other's seed off Laura. If they move more into multiple partners in a session, and he cleans the bull's cock & Laura, does that make MC bi? What about Laura if she cleans up or share's pleasure with female, is she bi? What happens if Le Stag throws in a mtf, ftm, intersexed, or femboy? The player's journey with them is all sexual exploration & growth.
I think pinning a definition to the characters as they change over time may do the player a disservice by limiting themselves. Possibly even loosing entertainment with the game. Le Stag's is one of the more fluid (pun intended) phone style VNs, and one of the more positive with more healthy social aspects & less hangups, back stabbing, cheating, etc. (i.e. less drama). He's even mentioned someone's gonna get pregnant (preggo with lactation, sweet).
I apologize for being so verbose. I hoped this helped connect the dots of where I mentioned Laura, for just a moment, was talking about a single quean experience -- not living the long term, quean life style.
Cheers.
Being aspie, I always have to reflect on what miscommunication I had (tangent thoughts, dropped segways, etc.) so I can try to avoid it again. So on the commute to work I was reflecting on these posts. I figured out, due to being neurodiverent, the posts went like a conversation with my wife.
She speaks in generalities, then might move into specifics whereas I (with engineer brain) am three levels deep into specific(s) and must back out to generalities then circle back to the specific(s) so she sees my connections.
Again, you're correct. In general, Laura is not a quean. She's been corrupted (my portmanteau: enslutification XD). As I previously mentioned, her transition in to the overall (umbrella) open relationship lifestyle. She's going through phases: managed, unmanaged, sharing MC, and where my dropped/disconnection is the "quean" remark. And now MC is doing so to. They both are growing together and at the same time.
(IIRC) It's where she tells them she'd like to try out what it feels like for MC -- to experience what it's like for him being a cuck. To be there while Ashley and MC fuck. Now whether she caves & participates, help manage MC fucking Ashley, or sits back to film (jilling off during or later to the video) -- we'll find out. But for the moment, she'd ... briefly ... be queaning.
The Le Stag story is covering quite few kink definitions over time, where they blend together into a sampling each aspect for the player.
For example, MC has be a been a cuck. Now that Laura has allowed Ashley to BJ him several times, and him desiring it, is he still a cuck? He's been desiring to fuck Laura and appears he'll get to. So, he's no longer exclusive to sexual activities with Laura. It appears they moving further into a swinging/open relationship.
He's cleaned up other's seed off Laura. If they move more into multiple partners in a session, and he cleans the bull's cock & Laura, does that make MC bi? What about Laura if she cleans up or share's pleasure with female, is she bi? What happens if Le Stag throws in a mtf, ftm, intersexed, or femboy? The player's journey with them is all sexual exploration & growth.
I think pinning a definition to the characters as they change over time may do the player a disservice by limiting themselves. Possibly even loosing entertainment with the game. Le Stag's is one of the more fluid (pun intended) phone style VNs, and one of the more positive with more healthy social aspects & less hangups, back stabbing, cheating, etc. (i.e. less drama). He's even mentioned someone's gonna get pregnant (preggo with lactation, sweet).
I apologize for being so verbose. I hoped this helped connect the dots of where I mentioned Laura, for just a moment, was talking about a single quean experience -- not living the long term, quean life style.
Cheers.
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Netori Dev - So in my multipart post about another game (sorry about that), there's some nuggets to take from it. I won't re-hash those here.
Of most of these Phone VNs (approaching 30 as of late), a couple of stand out ones are:
Note: There is one other NTR phone VN where the Streamer character "Polly" is based on VixenP and her starting her streaming career. There's no stand out aspect except it pissing off lots of players that Polly cheated (which was added being an NTR game).
And then there's yours. Instead of the MC being the cuck, MC is the bull. Very nice character flip no one has done yet (that I've seen.) And having to send the photo too. ++
The navigation tree is so super helpful. I wish more had them. It makes up for not having multiple save slots.
If you've not played some of Le Stag's (or My Streaming Girlfriend), it might be worth your time. Be sure to focus on the characters (their lives, state of mind, etc.), not the defined/choreographed sex. There's plenty of AI gen & fan-fic sex out there already, make yours a story and players will stay.
You've started off well with the first couple going through some emotional growth. Note the "Seven Stages of Grief" apply to all change, not just some one dying but even one's personal growth as the old "you" is fading away. So the NPCs will need to travel that emotional path.
Don't hurry through the growth. Many of the VNs speed through it. Linger just a smidge to help build character depth.
(I'm hope you some of the items below may help to expand your player demographic.)
There's so many different experiences. Make sure the MC goes through some growth too and expands his sexuality via player choices. He too should go through the seven stages as his career advances, just like porn stars.
* What about lesbian couples wanting to explore the bull, each taking turns helping each other with him. Just cause they're emotionally into women doesn't mean they don't like a real human cock vs a toy.
* There's going be sub cuck wanting to clean MC & their partner up. Does he reconcile he's bi or just open hetero?
* How will he handle a dom cuck? He's got to know his place with his clients where he's not in charge.
* There's going to be players into futa so MC will need to entertain that unless you blow past that.
* What about any those post-coitus emotional break downs -- not about the joy of sex, but the release of other emotional states given their brain just opened up. That shit has happened with my partners for realz.
* What about his feeling of loss when a couple moves on from him? (like, She gets preggo, after the kid they start being responsible parents meaning less Bull time.)
* Being with a bull "service" where an operator sends him out, is this volunteer gig or is he being paid like a gigolo?
Hell, have a couple of the folks become friends with him beyond his gig work with them. He's going to need someone to talk to. Of course, if he's a decent human being, he'll have to deal with client's emotional exposures.
It would be ironic if later he makes a Personal counseling appointment to process what he's going through. And the Counseling doctor turns out to be one his clients from a previous or re-occurring gig. Then each of them have to put on their "professional" hat when they are working having changed roles. So these two guys end up being each others profession emotional support.
It's not uncommon for professional Doms to be part sex therapist, part psychiatrist - both are therapy for the brain. So is the bull brainless or smart & bored with common jobs?
Think of a any normal career. There's a cycle of highs, lows, burnout, recuperation, and the daily grind. Maybe even real consequences where after a hard career as a service bull, he longs for a career change and committed relationship for his mental well being. (Probably best to avoid STDs like most VNs - or not.)
All the above is just 'spaghetti on the wall." It's your game with a fresh take in a growing space. It'll be interesting to see where you take this.
Good luck. Cheers.
Of most of these Phone VNs (approaching 30 as of late), a couple of stand out ones are:
- Le Stag's - enough said already
- My Streaming Girlfriend - it's NTR/NTS but there's a mystery plot twist going on regarding their managing her streaming career.
- There's just a couple where they are more like Tinder VNs with each girl having a different kink/persuasion. Which is fine to escape the excessive NTR/NTS VNs. But there's not a significant standout story in them.
Note: There is one other NTR phone VN where the Streamer character "Polly" is based on VixenP and her starting her streaming career. There's no stand out aspect except it pissing off lots of players that Polly cheated (which was added being an NTR game).
And then there's yours. Instead of the MC being the cuck, MC is the bull. Very nice character flip no one has done yet (that I've seen.) And having to send the photo too. ++
The navigation tree is so super helpful. I wish more had them. It makes up for not having multiple save slots.
If you've not played some of Le Stag's (or My Streaming Girlfriend), it might be worth your time. Be sure to focus on the characters (their lives, state of mind, etc.), not the defined/choreographed sex. There's plenty of AI gen & fan-fic sex out there already, make yours a story and players will stay.
You've started off well with the first couple going through some emotional growth. Note the "Seven Stages of Grief" apply to all change, not just some one dying but even one's personal growth as the old "you" is fading away. So the NPCs will need to travel that emotional path.
Don't hurry through the growth. Many of the VNs speed through it. Linger just a smidge to help build character depth.
(I'm hope you some of the items below may help to expand your player demographic.)
There's so many different experiences. Make sure the MC goes through some growth too and expands his sexuality via player choices. He too should go through the seven stages as his career advances, just like porn stars.
* What about lesbian couples wanting to explore the bull, each taking turns helping each other with him. Just cause they're emotionally into women doesn't mean they don't like a real human cock vs a toy.
* There's going be sub cuck wanting to clean MC & their partner up. Does he reconcile he's bi or just open hetero?
* How will he handle a dom cuck? He's got to know his place with his clients where he's not in charge.
* There's going to be players into futa so MC will need to entertain that unless you blow past that.
* What about any those post-coitus emotional break downs -- not about the joy of sex, but the release of other emotional states given their brain just opened up. That shit has happened with my partners for realz.
* What about his feeling of loss when a couple moves on from him? (like, She gets preggo, after the kid they start being responsible parents meaning less Bull time.)
* Being with a bull "service" where an operator sends him out, is this volunteer gig or is he being paid like a gigolo?
Hell, have a couple of the folks become friends with him beyond his gig work with them. He's going to need someone to talk to. Of course, if he's a decent human being, he'll have to deal with client's emotional exposures.
It would be ironic if later he makes a Personal counseling appointment to process what he's going through. And the Counseling doctor turns out to be one his clients from a previous or re-occurring gig. Then each of them have to put on their "professional" hat when they are working having changed roles. So these two guys end up being each others profession emotional support.
It's not uncommon for professional Doms to be part sex therapist, part psychiatrist - both are therapy for the brain. So is the bull brainless or smart & bored with common jobs?
Think of a any normal career. There's a cycle of highs, lows, burnout, recuperation, and the daily grind. Maybe even real consequences where after a hard career as a service bull, he longs for a career change and committed relationship for his mental well being. (Probably best to avoid STDs like most VNs - or not.)
All the above is just 'spaghetti on the wall." It's your game with a fresh take in a growing space. It'll be interesting to see where you take this.
Good luck. Cheers.