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We talked about implementing the new dialogues and the changes. I think Honey Games and I are going to talk about what he wants to keep for the vanilla version and what he wants to change. I think after he finishes his recent update he will play through my mod and let me know. But I wouldnt mind re adding things I've removed!
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I was confused about this also when I first started playing. It should really be explained in-game. The game starts and says it is part 2 and gives no information on part 1, its name, or where to find it. I had to ask in this thread to get that information.
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Good question, there was a good cheat mod for this but I don't think its current or maintained anymore.
Does the mod include which stat is being affected by choices like it says +1 or -1 relationship beside choices?
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I would not recommend doing that. Apart from possible breaking the game, your relationship stat is only a small part in your relationship with each girl. The game basically keeps track of all your interactions with all the girls and based on that more then your relationship stat it will allow you to do certain things.
For instance: If you break of your relationship with say Yvette, you can rebuild your relationship stat to 100 but you can never be in a relationship with her again. She will know you broke of the relationship.
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If you lied to Michelle, she will be pissed of with you when she finds out etc. etc.
So you actually gain relationship stats relatively easy, but you can lose them just as fast. The game relies more on flags in the game to know what you have done in the past then just the stats. obviously if your stats are low you would fail as well, but normally your stats would be low for a reason and the correct flags for the event would not have been set in any case, making adjusting the stats futile.
If you actually look at all the variables the game use, you would see that trying to manipulate them is almost impossible. I'm helping Honeygames with the stats screen and I don't know the meaning of half the variables in the game. You would need to do a deep dive like Erock to manipulate the game.
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Based on your description, it sounds like it wouldn't break the game since it relies more on choices/flags than the relationship stat. I don't want any option to fail based on the relationship stat check. Anyway, I was just wanting to know if anyone has mapped them out yet.
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Relationship stats are usually [charactername]good
Except for Kirsten and Maud which are kirstenass and maudass.
Relationship points mostly affect how a character answers to certain dialogue choices. For example if you have more than 50 points the character answers favorable and you get additional 5 relationship points while when you are below 50 points you get the opposite and lose 5 points.
That said, crank up those points. You can‘t break the game like that.
Be aware that some choices set relationship points to fixed values, so you need to adjust if you see something off
Except for Kirsten and Maud which are kirstenass and maudass.
Relationship points mostly affect how a character answers to certain dialogue choices. For example if you have more than 50 points the character answers favorable and you get additional 5 relationship points while when you are below 50 points you get the opposite and lose 5 points.
That said, crank up those points. You can‘t break the game like that.
Be aware that some choices set relationship points to fixed values, so you need to adjust if you see something off
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Correct, more futile then breaking the game.
Breaking the game was more in terms of trying to change the other flags, since the game story would become erratic and confusing, not necessarily crashing out .
My last point on this is that you can build up relationship points rather easily in the game. The game is quite forgiving on that point. The game flags are a different animal. You could get locked out more due to choices made, for instance choosing a model for a photoshoot or neglecting one of the girls you are pursuing and so missing out on an event.
The game was done very clever in that you the player are your only limiting factor. There is only 7 days in a week so you can only visit so many girls in the week. So by your own actions, you will lock out certain paths.
For guys like me that want all the girls, that is torture. But if you focus on your favourites, you will probably get them quite easily.
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Last point...There is a renpy save editor floating around here somewhere on this forum. I use that too examine variables.
You can also use that to edit variables.
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Maybe I should try that. It gets confusing examining the script and looking over path variables that get set to 1,2,3 or 4 without any description of what kind of path you chose
I thought about it and didn't add that. Just because some decisions change alot of variables so I didnt want to information dump the player. Instead I made the MC's dialogue choices more obvious in how they would be taken. (I.e. this line is definitely the asshole line while the other is the professional line). But honestly I wouldn't worry to much about relationship points with the mod unless you just really don't like the character. Because if you look through the code relationship points affect what they say to you and if they sleep with you. I dropped those checks down to 50 (in most cases). So unless your just a complete asshole to the character you should get the better dialogue and get to bang em. HOWEVER, if you do something to screw over another character you'll still get the repercussions of your actions and you may lose alot of points or a path. I think I marked all the screw over paths though so you shouldn't need a walkthrough
Try my mod. I think you'll enjoy it. I can go ahead and tell you that there are far to many flags for one person to map out and present in a simplistic way. They would need a huge flowchart atleast. You shouldn't fail any relationship stat check unless you just really pick all the wrong things to say.
dude's late again ...
sadly ain't worth checking here more often than once a month
sadly ain't worth checking here more often than once a month
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I find some of the options rather strange. For example, I was given the first opportunity to add a date rape drug to a girl's drink. I was able to have sex with her without using the drug so it was kind of pointless (I tried all three options and reloaded). There were lots of other girls I bought drinks for and was never given an option to add a drug to it (I've had all the drugs on me since the bathroom dealer was available).
It is also really confusing with relationships in this game. The game wants to play like a harem and then it often punishes the player for doing it. It is really confusing at times to figure out what is OK and what isn't. I don't mind this to some degree but too often I'm left guessing and later punished or rewarded for harem type decisions. The inconsistency is good and bad at the same time.
Michelle told me that she hated cocaine and then in another conversation told me that I needed to give it to another girl to get her to sleep with me.
I am really enjoying the game and there is a lot of mystery to it. Juggling lots of relationships is the main challenge of this game so far from what I have seen. It can be rewarding yet frustrating. The good part of the game is that choices don't have a clear path in most cases. This is definitely not like many of the predictable visual novels I've played in the past!
It is also really confusing with relationships in this game. The game wants to play like a harem and then it often punishes the player for doing it. It is really confusing at times to figure out what is OK and what isn't. I don't mind this to some degree but too often I'm left guessing and later punished or rewarded for harem type decisions. The inconsistency is good and bad at the same time.
Michelle told me that she hated cocaine and then in another conversation told me that I needed to give it to another girl to get her to sleep with me.
I am really enjoying the game and there is a lot of mystery to it. Juggling lots of relationships is the main challenge of this game so far from what I have seen. It can be rewarding yet frustrating. The good part of the game is that choices don't have a clear path in most cases. This is definitely not like many of the predictable visual novels I've played in the past!
That is currently the only time were you can use the date rape drug. It's not a pointless choice though. Later on in the story there is a specific event that happens if you chose to drug her. Not going to spoil it but if the MC decides to use drugs then someone might use drugs on him (and I'm not talking about the Yoshi thing with the bartender).
It is not possible for a Harem. Even with a mod. Certain girls like certain things and some of the women are friends or in relationships in which they want to be faithful.
And about Michelle... She is my favorite. She has a very unique backstory and personality. She is trying to turn her life around and not fall back into the drug and party lifestyle. However she still remains friends with some people in that life style, like Harley because Harley is genuinely a good friend to her. Talking to other characters about Michelle it's hinted that Michelle is a freak on a leash and doesn't really judge others for how they live their life. Does she do cocaine? No she hates it. Will she help the MC by giving him advice on how to hook up with someone using cocaine? Absolutely. Why? She's kinky like that and I'm not going to judge her for it! lol
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Best thing so far is that you have her all to yourself as she doesn‘t see any other guys. Atleast in the current version.
What I am wary of, is the relationship between Michelle and Melissa. Melissa is a drug addict but still pretty hot and her trust stat hints at a redemption path, but I would hate it if getting involved with Melissa blocks you off of Michelle. It would be understandable but I wouldn‘t like it.
I‘m already passing on Yvette, Ashley and Tatianna. I don‘t want to lose Michelle and Melissa, too.
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yeaaah a lot of new people here confused about this at the beginning.. i think there needs to be a developers note on the op page regarding this