So we're gonna have to wait another 3 months for part 2 of the release?
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i'm not a developer, but it still seems to me as a lOOOOOOOOOOT of time, or very few hours per day for the project, more like 10 minutes
also with the new machine for rendering, with this kind of delay i would expect to see all the renders redone or at least a lot more per update.
i really like this project , this is why i would expect higher standards and a chance for it to move forward, maybe towards full time work.
this was my favorite game i was keep referring lot people link it im not patreon but i keep saying he deserve it
but not anymore
i hate when people mislead.yes lot of devolopers didnt care here he is here writing explaining and im not paying so i dont have right complaining maybe but i trust him
at November he said waiting new pc he delayed becouse of that.he said 1-2 week after pc arrive work.so mid october till now past mid February past 4 month and always state im almost done waiting new pc render done no i re do render im almost done no im at %50.well at 4 month if not done when 3 month ago said its almost ready waiting new pc .which past 3 month till he get new pc.
so thx god he get new pc otherwise end of summer maybe next patch
i seen abandoned so small tiny updates for milking patreons kind games but this first for me.
seen active but like abondoned game
yes not everyone can do monthly u update specially some people done like tiny updates so dont mind waiting
but lot of people piss of when u said in few week im ready and past over that 3 month
at 2-3 month he can do new patch
im uessing he said one for me and other ask he plan finish this part 1.8 update with maybe he not ready what he gone afterwards and slowed down so hang on people on updates patreons.if he work decently and now 1.6 came etc he wont be able enough profit done and didnt ready 3. wave game with new mc different kind game play with.maybe this sound harsh but i lost trust.
till new year like everyday i open here hope to see 1.5 was wait more eagerly then wow shadowland.one player here trying do pool can be update around xmas or not.i bet he was think how naive i was for beliving him.
again if he said i will be delayed then again i didnt piss of this much.now i fell like played and fooled
still i check this page evert few day max 3-4 day not anymotre eagerly daily bases.i lost hope and even honey say next week coming i wont trust him.
after big brother author top my hate list few blank and now i write down like 5. honey.
i hate been lied
but not anymore
i hate when people mislead.yes lot of devolopers didnt care here he is here writing explaining and im not paying so i dont have right complaining maybe but i trust him
at November he said waiting new pc he delayed becouse of that.he said 1-2 week after pc arrive work.so mid october till now past mid February past 4 month and always state im almost done waiting new pc render done no i re do render im almost done no im at %50.well at 4 month if not done when 3 month ago said its almost ready waiting new pc .which past 3 month till he get new pc.
so thx god he get new pc otherwise end of summer maybe next patch
i seen abandoned so small tiny updates for milking patreons kind games but this first for me.
seen active but like abondoned game
yes not everyone can do monthly u update specially some people done like tiny updates so dont mind waiting
but lot of people piss of when u said in few week im ready and past over that 3 month
at 2-3 month he can do new patch
im uessing he said one for me and other ask he plan finish this part 1.8 update with maybe he not ready what he gone afterwards and slowed down so hang on people on updates patreons.if he work decently and now 1.6 came etc he wont be able enough profit done and didnt ready 3. wave game with new mc different kind game play with.maybe this sound harsh but i lost trust.
till new year like everyday i open here hope to see 1.5 was wait more eagerly then wow shadowland.one player here trying do pool can be update around xmas or not.i bet he was think how naive i was for beliving him.
again if he said i will be delayed then again i didnt piss of this much.now i fell like played and fooled
still i check this page evert few day max 3-4 day not anymotre eagerly daily bases.i lost hope and even honey say next week coming i wont trust him.
after big brother author top my hate list few blank and now i write down like 5. honey.
i hate been lied
HoneyGames posted 2 times in the last month
Unfortunately, I've had some family issues that have further slowed down the development of the game.
I've had to travel a lot lately.
The good news is that I am now back working on the game full time.
As you know thanks to the new PC I'm also redoing some renders (it doesn't take much time, I can do them while writing the code).
Release 1.5a is almost ready. The code is at 75%.
I should be able to release by February 25/26.
1.5b (with the last day and the savior of our freedom party) will be ready probably a week later (with more renders done again and, I hope, some new features that will make the game more enjoyable)
Let's hope it pans out this time then..
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Unfortunately, I've had some family issues that have further slowed down the development of the game.
I've had to travel a lot lately.
The good news is that I am now back working on the game full time.
As you know thanks to the new PC I'm also redoing some renders (it doesn't take much time, I can do them while writing the code).
Release 1.5a is almost ready. The code is at 75%.
I should be able to release by February 25/26.
1.5b (with the last day and the savior of our freedom party) will be ready probably a week later (with more renders done again and, I hope, some new features that will make the game more enjoyable)
Let's hope it pans out this time then..
Some of you may think it's taking a long time to do this update. Yeah, it is taking longer than normal - lets look at the reasons why:
(1) There's only one person on the writing/graphics side of things and that's HoneyGames . With the addition of Alfius (who separately looks after the character stats) there are a few volunteer bug finders/fixers/testers. Compare that to the likes of Where The Heart Is - a great game that has a team of 4 working on it, it's less complex and pushes fewer updates out in a year than NCC.
(2) The best part of 3 weeks development was lost due to HoneyGames having a family bereavement and having to travel back & forth in Italy.
(3a) With past releases the dev would pretty much write, render & test alone and release it to higher tier Patreon member and testers. These accepted the fact that there would likely be bugs - with it being so complex - and tried to hunt them down via different playthroughs/paths. Recently those releases got leaked here very early, leading to a lot of complaints and repeated posts about the same bugs. If 1.5 had been released "as is" there would have been a lot of complaints again.
(3b) For this release testers have been getting a day released at a time along with any side events for that day and then had time to test them, find and fix bugs. Personally, I have 8 pages of saves based on various combinations of characters and it takes time to work through these. In some cases an event will happen and while playing you'll think "why did that happen" and after back tracking a day or more you find that a variable has been set incorrectly (or the wrong one used) and a path has changed due to it. It's taken a couple of hours or more on a few occasions to work out the sequence of events before fixing it. For the last day released it took me most of a Sunday and a few hours on Monday/Tuesday evenings until I was happy I'd tested the release as much as I could, found, fixed & reported the bugs.
(4) The dev also has a full-time job - and I (and probably other helpers) also have full-time jobs.
There will probably a bug or too found after the release (when it happens) as not all paths/events can be tested. I don't bother with Irene, Maud cuckold & Yevette domination paths for instance and am barely interested in the porn career, but others probably do. It should be a lot smoother playthrough for the vast majority than In the past.
If you can accept it for what it is then great - and enjoy it when you get the chance to play it
. If you can't accept it then there are plenty of other great games also available on F95Zone to try - I just checked and I have nearly 70 that are currently in progress - and here's me thinking I'd only play a few!
(1) There's only one person on the writing/graphics side of things and that's HoneyGames . With the addition of Alfius (who separately looks after the character stats) there are a few volunteer bug finders/fixers/testers. Compare that to the likes of Where The Heart Is - a great game that has a team of 4 working on it, it's less complex and pushes fewer updates out in a year than NCC.
(2) The best part of 3 weeks development was lost due to HoneyGames having a family bereavement and having to travel back & forth in Italy.
(3a) With past releases the dev would pretty much write, render & test alone and release it to higher tier Patreon member and testers. These accepted the fact that there would likely be bugs - with it being so complex - and tried to hunt them down via different playthroughs/paths. Recently those releases got leaked here very early, leading to a lot of complaints and repeated posts about the same bugs. If 1.5 had been released "as is" there would have been a lot of complaints again.
(3b) For this release testers have been getting a day released at a time along with any side events for that day and then had time to test them, find and fix bugs. Personally, I have 8 pages of saves based on various combinations of characters and it takes time to work through these. In some cases an event will happen and while playing you'll think "why did that happen" and after back tracking a day or more you find that a variable has been set incorrectly (or the wrong one used) and a path has changed due to it. It's taken a couple of hours or more on a few occasions to work out the sequence of events before fixing it. For the last day released it took me most of a Sunday and a few hours on Monday/Tuesday evenings until I was happy I'd tested the release as much as I could, found, fixed & reported the bugs.
(4) The dev also has a full-time job - and I (and probably other helpers) also have full-time jobs.
There will probably a bug or too found after the release (when it happens) as not all paths/events can be tested. I don't bother with Irene, Maud cuckold & Yevette domination paths for instance and am barely interested in the porn career, but others probably do. It should be a lot smoother playthrough for the vast majority than In the past.
If you can accept it for what it is then great - and enjoy it when you get the chance to play it
. If you can't accept it then there are plenty of other great games also available on F95Zone to try - I just checked and I have nearly 70 that are currently in progress - and here's me thinking I'd only play a few!
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- Sep 30, 2017
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I'm sorry you feel that way.
I can just confirm that there is no way that this will get abandoned. HG has been vey busy with testers etc. I have not been as involved as I normally would be, due to big changes in my RL as well (Moving cities and all that) But rest assure, HoneyGames is very active in producing the new update.
I can vouch for the amount of new content going into the new version. Keep in mind that HG released more then 5 past games already and is already planning the sequel to NCC. So I don't think there is a chance that he will abandon this project.
Maybe his update is taking longer then he thought, but one just need to look at Cyberpunk to see what happens if you release too early
Just to keep it fair I'd agree he started 5 games but as far as I know they we're all abondoned and released. Quite different from being finished games..
I assume most who's following this thread knows this already but if there are any newcomers let's just be fair. Also, those game were rightfully abandoned to ger to this one finally, HG picked up alot and learned alot during working on those titles and NCC benefits from it.
He still sucks at communicating though :/
It's one of the BEST games from one of the worst devs, if that makes any sense..
Communicating a delay and reasons for said delay after the fact is just terrible praxis. You get out in front of it and inform your supporters WHEN something happens as too prepare them for coming delays, NEVER after...
That's no way to build a trusting relationship..
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I guess if you're not a developer, maybe you don't understand how much work is involved?
I don't get how people expect devs who work part time to just bang out oodles of content like it's nothing.
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I am not happy about the delays but saying that he's one of the worst devs is dishonest.
Go check Aorrta the liar, gumdrop and all the milking scammers.
Maybe honeygames' communication is not the best but I still find that he communicates more than most of the other devs as he spends a good amount of time in this thread.
He seems to have family problems which impacted his work and communication but he's still one of the best devs here and he's passionate about his game.
Let's hope that the game will be released soon and the next updates will come more regularly.
I think you misunderstood me for the most part..
First off, I'm couldn't care less about "delay", development takes thevtime it takes, no more no less. Nothing to stress about.
But concerning communication, he unfortunatly is one of the worst. It's not a jibe but meant as fair criticism. I love the game, I dd support HG at the highest level for a loooong time and I wish him all the best.
But this is far from the first time that his communication is severly lacking.
As for the other clowns you namedtopped I wouldn't consider any of them as devs so thay wouldn't make the list
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MAYBE I AM ONE OF THE WORST developpers. but I prefer to spend my time developing the game. every time I read this forum or write posts on patreon it's time I waste not working on the game, I don't know if you understand what I mean.
Coding a game like NCC requires a huge amount of concentration. there are many paths and many characters, just the fact that i'm here reading what you write and finding the time to answer... means that i'm not working on the game. To get myself working on the game I have to take my notes, see what event is planned, find all the variables that lead to that event and think to all the dialogues (different for each variable/paths).
it's a game created by one person, with the help of a few volunteers, you can't expect me to do, rendering, coding, public relations, marketing and distribution.
I do the best I can. If I earned 20k$ a month maybe I'd hire a team of specialists, but right now this is a game made for passion and fun.
I do this for fun and for fun for you. So enjoy this game for what it is: a fun.
I would also like to be able to develop everything much faster, I have hundreds of ideas that walk in my brain and I would like to realize, unfortunately I can only realize a game, slowly, at a time.
Now I'll try to finish this game in the best possible way, then I'll work on the next one, trying to program a game that is easier to manage by one person.
No one is attacking you or expecting you to do something out of the ordinary here.
I told you again and again that NCC is my favorite game, and I play ALOT of games ^^ the game is second to none, the time it takes is of no concern to me, take your time and do it right.
It's indeed very complex, that's also thecreason why it's so very good.
But the most basic level of communication or public relations as you refer to it can't be ignored as a skillset of a developer, freelancer. It's every bit as vital as your actual dev skills, even more so one could argue..
And no, I won't acknowledge that it would be an insurpassable time sink to make a one or two sentance post to your supporters ingorming them beforehand that you would be othervise occupied the coming weeks.
That's all you had to do, inform the people that support you.
Giving reasons after the fact will always come off as disingenuous and grow distrust instead of cultivating it be being informative.
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Hey, just downloaded this game and am watching this 'intro' that shows the events played out from apparently the prior game (Follower), did I need to play that first / carry a save file over to this one? Or is this just the 'default' background story for this game?
No need to play Follower, you get everything you need to know from the intro
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It's going well!
My situation is not ideal for rolling it out quickly, but I'm working with the ported file from NightTrain and that is helping me a LOT. What is not so nice is that the original does not have a save function, so testing and comparing versions is difficult.But all in all It's doing well.
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Ok, I gotta ask - does someone have a music playlist from this game? Damn it's great, one of the best soundtracks.
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I have not played all his old games but the following are definitely complete. But I have played the following:-
1) The King of the beach
2) The King is Back
3) The Follower
I was not aware about games being abandoned, but I know for Sexduction (That I'm busy porting to Renpy), he considered additional content, but decided to leave it at 4. As far as I know, most of the other games are tagged as completed on here.
The three I played, were definitely completed.
Well this people rage cause you dont give them free fap material and their nuts explode with pure manly testosteron from 14th frebruary (end of joke ). Dont worry dev , take your time , normal people knows you work hard and want to deliver a good experience so dont bother with the complaints from freeloaders .