Java Newlife [v0.8.11] [Splendid Ostrich]

[FrogFrozen]

the issue as I understand it is that there's one guy working on the game. doubt somebody will port the whole game to something else

And that one guy currently goes significantly slower than he once did. Additionally, he purposefully spaghetti-fied his own code to spite modders. Which just makes it harder to make new content for until he stopped giving a shit and now just dripfeeds stuff every several months.

You really only have to code the basic mechanics like the stats/records/phone book/journal/week-formatting. (Most of which the player keeps track of on their end.) Then add the current events to lorebook events. Tell the card which three events you want to pull this week and the card just goes to them. The rest the AI just handles for you. The hardest part is keeping it centered on the week-by-week format.

 

[bummiefries]

And that one guy currently goes significantly slower than he once did. Additionally, he purposefully spaghetti-fied his own code to spite modders. Which just makes it harder to make new content for until he stopped giving a shit and now just dripfeeds stuff every several months.

While I too am dissatisfied with SO's update pace and amount (I have stopped being a long time patron and will never give him another cent at this point), do you have any evidence of him "purposefully spaghettifying" his code?

 

[FrogFrozen]

While I too am dissatisfied with SO's update pace and amount (I have stopped being a long time patron and will never give him another cent at this point), do you have any evidence of him "purposefully spaghettifying" his code?

You can find it in a lot of past posts in the thread. Look for instances of "non-con." It almost always comes up when mention of his stance on non-con is relevant. Personally, I don't care for non-con, but its still a shitty thing to do. Yes, I know about UK laws, but no porn game's ever gotten in trouble because of a mod.

 

[stochastic]

While I too am dissatisfied with SO's update pace and amount (I have stopped being a long time patron and will never give him another cent at this point), do you have any evidence of him "purposefully spaghettifying" his code?

As far as I know the only "evidence" of SO "purposefully spaghettifying" his code is from people that have tried to use decompilers on the code and found that it's been run through an obfuscator - I do not know which one. To the best of my knowledge, no one posting here has ever seen Newlife's actual code. Though you can still infer a decent amount from the decompiled, obfuscated code, you can't really tell whether it's "good" or "bad" code, and you can probably figure out more about the structure of the program by paying close attention to how the custom scene API works and what objects and methods it exposes to the Velocity script.

Ultimately, it's SO's stuff to release or keep to themselves, and while I personally wish I could make more significant changes to the game's internals than I can via custom scenes, not sharing the actual code isn't the evil act some people here have tried to argue that it is.

 

[Mallee]

You can find it in a lot of past posts in the thread. Look for instances of "non-con." It almost always comes up when mention of his stance on non-con is relevant. Personally, I don't care for non-con, but its still a shitty thing to do. Yes, I know about UK laws, but no porn game's ever gotten in trouble because of a mod.

I know this is late, but I do want to point out that not only did he make it more difficult for modders to add content to the game he will likely never finish, but his stance on non-con content doesn't even make sense. The UK also has laws against sexual harassment, revenge porn, recording someone without their permission, and having sex with someone too drunk to stand, let alone consent, all of which are legally defined as non-consensual... but they're all in the game. The latter is legally considered rape in the country, btw, but it's a pretty big part of the game regardless.

 

[Cheesea]

I know this is late, but I do want to point out that not only did he make it more difficult for modders to add content to the game he will likely never finish, but his stance on non-con content doesn't even make sense. The UK also has laws against sexual harassment, revenge porn, recording someone without their permission, and having sex with someone too drunk to stand, let alone consent, all of which are legally defined as non-consensual... but they're all in the game. The latter is legally considered rape in the country, btw, but it's a pretty big part of the game regardless.

Yeah, I've thought about this too. I believe that reproductive coercion is illegal as well. I find it extremely hard to believe that SO doesn't see these actions as non-con. Don't get me wrong, the non-con parts are a draw of the game, but there is definitely a double standard based on where SO has chosen to draw a line in the sand.

 

[Dracis3D]

I know this is late, but I do want to point out that not only did he make it more difficult for modders to add content to the game he will likely never finish, but his stance on non-con content doesn't even make sense. The UK also has laws against sexual harassment, revenge porn, recording someone without their permission, and having sex with someone too drunk to stand, let alone consent, all of which are legally defined as non-consensual... but they're all in the game. The latter is legally considered rape in the country, btw, but it's a pretty big part of the game regardless.

Most of the law is geared towards real people doing it to real people, not for 'literatrue' which is what this. Now there is 1950's law for 'obscene publications' that 'deprave' or 'corrupt' people but in reality never really prosecuted. The events listed above are covered in TV shows and in real life news so hardly going to corrupt or cause 'serious harm'.