Others Completed Night crawling is really dodgy! [FINAL] [Almonds & Big Milk]

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This is not animated, please take this off that tag. Still a good game, would be just as good if the actions were all animated. then we'd have no problem with the tags.
 
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Look back a page or you can click forums at the top and in the quick search line type the DEV's name in and it'll pop up all their games that are here.
 

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Almonds an big milks biggest fan go on a translation spree or something? This company has been getting a surge of translations.
 

TeamHentaiX

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kinda wish dev would put a freemode after you win
 

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His FATHER remarried and MC now has a sister-in-law? What kind of Alabama nonsense is that?
Honestly the premise sound more like Also why Alabama their not blood related s there nothing wrong about it.
 

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Tip - you can decrease her wake time clicking on the shh icon finger on the moving lips, but hey its just a tip, i just use the cheat lol
 

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This is a quote from the games store page made by the character "*"Ooh..ahh! What the fuck you doing arsehole...I will kill you!!" (CV: Shiori Manaka) " Kinda sounds like she might not approve even in the game. Did you even play it before just assuming she'd be ok? Did you really just spend a day arguing it wasn't rape without even checking to see if you were right?

Also, no you are just flat wrong. And very silly. You clearly can't grasp the basic point of what people are saying. Readers of a text are entitled to assume that the irl rules applied to the author apply in the game unless otherwise stated. Link a scholarly source that says otherwise, otherwise you are flat wrong. And again, even if the author said it wasn't legally a rape in the game, it is by the standards of this site. So we talk about it and tag it as such.

You're either completely devoid of reading comprehension and logical reasoning skills or a troll at this point, just discuss this with some of your female friends irl and see what they think of your reasoning. Maybe ask your sisters or mom if they appreciate you saying that consent isn't real in any fiction, and that having sex with sleeping women isn't rape. Let me know how it goes! Until then, supply a source for your argument or you aren't worth anyone's time.
Could still be a comment made out of surprise, remember, she was sleeping. People tend to not be very happy when woken up suddenly like this. I did play it, could have sworn I commented about having to use the cheats to beat it, stupid wake meter fills too fast. Their assumption is not canon unless supported by the story itself, canon is what counts and only the dev has the authority to define it. There is no such thing as a scholarly article on this because there is no standard to write one on, it is case by case, only the individual behind the content has the authority. That means only this dev has the authority to write a scholarly article, which would be in Japanese by the way, on his world. By the standards of this site, all sleep sex is rape, even if she doesn't say no, but doesn't say yes. No, I am neither a troll nor devoid of such skills. I just view it logically instead of by any real world morals, which, again, is why we had people blaming Doom for Columbine, because they applied their real world morals. Nobody I know IRL knows I use this site, probably best considering the reputation this site has as a pirating site. Guess what, it isn't always rape to have sex with a sleeping woman, have you never seen a male MC wake his lover through sex? That's not all that common, but it does happen. I guess he raped her, then, since this site defines both sleep sex and rape together even though she never berates him afterward or calls the cops on him leading to a game over. If I'm not worth anyone's time, why are you wasting yours? You are under no obligation to reply and I will always reply back when I am quoted, mentioned, or replied to in any way.
 
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Could still be a comment made out of surprise, remember, she was sleeping. People tend to not be very happy when woken up suddenly like this.
If she didn't like being woken up with sex, then she didn't like the penetrative sex act that was being done. Even by your own ludicrous standards it would be rape then.
I did play it, could have sworn I commented about having to use the cheats to beat it, stupid wake meter fills too fast.
Gee, you get game overs for being caught raping a sleeping girl. Almost like the developer of the game is trying to indicate to you that the girl stops the act and the MC is punished heavily because she didn't like what was happening.
Their assumption is not canon unless supported by the story itself, canon is what counts and only the dev has the authority to define it.
I've given you a quote showing you the victim doesn't like it, you've provided an argument yourself of why the victim doesn't like it, the dev's game design gave you a reason to believe the girl didn't like it, the dev gave you no reason to think the girl did like it or the laws of the land allowed raping sleeping people. I feel like maybe that should be enough? Unless you are subconsciously a rape apologist? If the girl was drugged and unconscious is that rape to you? How about if she is forced to do it at gunpoint but doesn't say no? How about if she is hypnotized or drugged with aphrodisiacs? What if someone came up behind her and knocked her unconscious? Do you need in universe legal citations in those situations?
There is no such thing as a scholarly article on this because there is no standard to write one on, it is case by case, only the individual behind the content has the authority.
There are probably millions of scholarly articles about fiction writing and works of fiction. There are probably tens of thousands of scholarly articles on porn. Your claim is that the real world definitions of words that we use to describe the actions of characters and the events in fiction (in this instance the definition of the word rape) are ALWAYS different to the rules we use to describe real world actions or events. If what you are saying is true there would be a number of articles discussing this phenomena. Find one that says that the phenomena you describe is real AND that it is good that it is the way things are done.
By the standards of this site, all sleep sex is rape, even if she doesn't say no, but doesn't say yes.
That's right. That's what we've been saying my dude. That's because it is.
No, I am neither a troll nor devoid of such skills.
Could have fooled me.
I just view it logically instead of by any real world morals, which, again, is why we had people blaming Doom for Columbine, because they applied their real world morals.
Uhhhh in Doom you kill demons to save the earth, in this game you rape a young girl. Feel like there's a bit of a difference there, chief. How about GTA or Postal you say? Well in those cases the characters are OBVIOUSLY defined as bad. Just like in this game the MC is OBVIOUSLY bad. This game won't make anyone rape anyone. Trying to convince people that rape isn't rape, though, does contribute to a culture that still has a real bad understanding of what consent is. If a website that has a community of sex positive people on it can't get consent right then who the fuck will?
Nobody I know IRL knows I use this site, probably best considering the reputation this site has as a pirating site.
You don't have to tell them. Just tell them that you don't think sleep sex in fiction is rape and tell them why and see how they respond. If you're embarrassed to do that, then maybe you realize that what you are saying is real gross and offensive.
Guess what, it isn't always rape to have sex with a sleeping woman, have you never seen a male MC wake his lover through sex? That's not all that common, but it does happen. I guess he raped her, then, since this site defines both sleep sex and rape together even though she never berates him afterward or calls the cops on him leading to a game over.
Yes. Yes he raped her. If she wanted to press charges she would be entirely justified in the real world. Unless she specifically gave consent for him to have sex with her while she was sleeping that night then she was raped. Even then it's pretty murky because consent generally requires the ability to revoke consent which you can't do while unconscious.
If I'm not worth anyone's time, why are you wasting yours? You are under no obligation to reply and I will always reply back when I am quoted, mentioned, or replied to in any way.
Because I don't like it when people don't understand consent? Because I have empathy for the millions of women who have been raped and have had to face a culture and society that thinks that they don't have rights if they wear a thong or a short skirt or have a few drinks at a bar.

Your ideas are idiotic, dangerous, and toxic. In the real world the characters action is defined as a rape. We live in the real world so we call it a rape. Even if it isn't a rape in the story we describe things in the real world by real world rules not fictional ones.

By your logic if you watched a movie made by nazis committing the holocaust then the movie couldn't be described as having murder because the people making the film didn't see it that way. By your logic the burning of women thought of as witches was totally fine because the society was fine with it. We judge things by modern standards, but by reading fiction and non-fiction written by different authors from different times and cultures we learn about the standards of different cultures and different times and different people and can then put them into a broader context within the history of the world and it's literature and art. We should understand that judging people based entirely on their adherence to outdated or foreign standards is unfair, but that doesn't mean we should sanitize history and culture by only using the words that the original authors did to describe their work or their times. If that were the case we could never learn or grow, we could never read different languages, or old dialects, we couldn't discuss shakespeare or homer or the bible or sun tzu or indigenous oral traditions because we don't speak with the words that they do.

You are spending you time fighting against logic using every possible faulty argument you can think of to say we shouldnt call a rape a rape, and demonstrating in the process that you don't have an understanding of consent even outside of this issue (which isn't surprising to me). That's why I'm spending my time here. If I can change your mind and teach you something then thats a good thing. And maybe it might change how you understand the world and maybe it will allow you to teach others. And honestly, it's less about you and more about doing something to help change a culture to protect victims. I highly doubt you are a rapist, I have no reason to believe that you are, but your arguments hurt victims and they need to be corrected.

Anyway. This is getting off topic, if you want to discuss this further feel free to message me, I'd be happy to continue this in a more appropriate setting.
 
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If she didn't like being woken up with sex, then she didn't like the penetrative sex act that was being done. Even by your own ludicrous standards it would be rape then.

Gee, you get game overs for being caught raping a sleeping girl. Almost like the developer of the game is trying to indicate to you that the girl stops the act and the MC is punished heavily because she didn't like what was happening.

I've given you a quote showing you the victim doesn't like it, you've provided an argument yourself of why the victim doesn't like it, the dev's game design gave you a reason to believe the girl didn't like it, the dev gave you no reason to think the girl did like it or the laws of the land allowed raping sleeping people. I feel like maybe that should be enough? Unless you are subconsciously a rape apologist? If the girl was drugged and unconscious is that rape to you? How about if she is forced to do it at gunpoint but doesn't say no? How about if she is hypnotized or drugged with aphrodisiacs? What if someone came up behind her and knocked her unconscious? Do you need in universe legal citations in those situations?

There are probably millions of scholarly articles about fiction writing and works of fiction. There are probably tens of thousands of scholarly articles on porn. Your claim is that the real world definitions of words that we use to describe the actions of characters and the events in fiction (in this instance the definition of the word rape) are ALWAYS different to the rules we use to describe real world actions or events. If what you are saying is true there would be a number of articles discussing this phenomena. Find one that says that the phenomena you describe is real AND that it is good that it is the way things are done.

That's right. That's what we've been saying my dude. That's because it is.

Could have fooled me.

Uhhhh in Doom you kill demons to save the earth, in this game you rape a young girl. Feel like there's a bit of a difference there, chief. How about GTA or Postal you say? Well in those cases the characters are OBVIOUSLY defined as bad. Just like in this game the MC is OBVIOUSLY bad. This game won't make anyone rape anyone. Trying to convince people that rape isn't rape, though, does contribute to a culture that still has a real bad understanding of what consent is. If a website that has a community of sex positive people on it can't get consent right then who the fuck will?

You don't have to tell them. Just tell them that you don't think sleep sex in fiction is rape and tell them why and see how they respond. If you're embarrassed to do that, then maybe you realize that what you are saying is real gross and offensive.

Yes. Yes he raped her. If she wanted to press charges she would be entirely justified in the real world. Unless she specifically gave consent for him to have sex with her while she was sleeping that night then she was raped. Even then it's pretty murky because consent generally requires the ability to revoke consent which you can't do while unconscious.

Because I don't like it when people don't understand consent? Because I have empathy for the millions of women who have been raped and have had to face a culture and society that thinks that they don't have rights if they wear a thong or a short skirt or have a few drinks at a bar.

Your ideas are idiotic, dangerous, and toxic. In the real world the characters action is defined as a rape. We live in the real world so we call it a rape. Even if it isn't a rape in the story we describe things in the real world by real world rules not fictional ones.

By your logic if you watched a movie made by nazis committing the holocaust then the movie couldn't be described as having murder because the people making the film didn't see it that way. By your logic the burning of women thought of as witches was totally fine because the society was fine with it. We judge things by modern standards, but by reading fiction and non-fiction written by different authors from different times and cultures we learn about the standards of different cultures and different times and different people and can then put them into a broader context within the history of the world and it's literature and art. We should understand that judging people based entirely on their adherence to outdated or foreign standards is unfair, but that doesn't mean we should sanitize history and culture by only using the words that the original authors did to describe their work or their times. If that were the case we could never learn or grow, we could never read different languages, or old dialects, we couldn't discuss shakespeare or homer or the bible or sun tzu or indigenous oral traditions because we don't speak with the words that they do.

You are spending you time fighting against logic using every possible faulty argument you can think of to say we shouldnt call a rape a rape, and demonstrating in the process that you don't have an understanding of consent even outside of this issue (which isn't surprising to me). That's why I'm spending my time here. If I can change your mind and teach you something then thats a good thing. And maybe it might change how you understand the world and maybe it will allow you to teach others. And honestly, it's less about you and more about doing something to help change a culture to protect victims. I highly doubt you are a rapist, I have no reason to believe that you are, but your arguments hurt victims and they need to be corrected.

Anyway. This is getting off topic, if you want to discuss this further feel free to message me, I'd be happy to continue this in a more appropriate setting.
No, she may just not like being woken up suddenly, which is still not rape, just impolite. Yeah, you would get a game over in most games with a taboo situation where you get caught, too. She is related by law, so it would still get him in trouble. Given the premise of the game, you can't exactly keep playing at that point. You kind of have to be out of jail to do things like you do in game. In that quote, there was no distinct indication she didn't like it, only that she was unexpectedly awakened, which would cause a negative reaction from most people. Try waking me when I'm sound asleep and I react similarly. None of those articles are relevant to the world portrayed in this game, as I said, since only the dev would have the knowledge of the game world to write one. No, not all sleep sex is rape, once again, I give you the example of the MC waking his lover through sex, which is something that some games do. One who believes fiction and reality bear the same rules is easily fooled. Doom is an ultra violent game, that is why it was blamed for Columbine, the premise of the game doesn't matter to those who blamed that game. The people that blamed Doom are already convinced and their minds will never be changed. They will forever blame violence in video games for violence IRL. They are the logically challenged. I personally don't care what the people I know think about the difference between sleep sex and rape, I already know that they are not the same. No, still no in game or dev note indication that the MC actually forced the girl. Once again, you are proving that you do think that I'm worth your time. This game isn't the real world and never will be nor do real world rules and morals apply. I'm not fighting against logic, I'm defendiing it from the likes of people who can't distinguish reality from fiction, which this entire conversation has made clear. No, I won't be messaging as there is nothing to reply to. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a whole list of games to go report a missing rape tag on since they have a sleep sex tag. :rolleyes:
 
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I don't know why this is being argued: It says this is bad straight up in the title.
 
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Oh mate, you haven't even seen the half of it!
(quite literally...) :ROFLMAO:
i don't understand what happened here, it's a sexual harasement game that goes from bad to worst and someone is telling that it's consensual sex ? i tryed the game but except her that get from trying to rebuke mc to straight up rejecting him i didn't see much is the good ending some joke in the line of monthy python ? (the "your father was a roman")
 

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You put it in for less than half a second and the game is over, I wasn't expecting much from this game but it's even worse than I thought. Or I could just be missing something. Also, there seems to only be one penetration position, if you can even call that, since you can hardly even do anything.
 
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