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Was wondering this too. If it's backpay that should be mentioned and the total tallied.. But it could be a bug just as likely.
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Yes, I definitely have a vague idea for a bully for future content, that will be an additional route for another ending, but I really need to polish up the rest of the gameplay first since there's so many suggestions, it's kinda overwhelming, honestly. This has gone from a personal project to a public project and it's hard to keep everyone happy.honestentity
Question, I noticed that for one of the editors you can hire your 'bully'. Will this be a setup for future NTR content?
Also will the MC (Player character) be able to get a better job eventually? To help with Female MCs job, adding a small amount of money each day or something? I only ask because I noticed that there is a 'Legal', 'HR' and 'Finance' under the remote work section.
I think a cool idea would be if you manage to last ten weeks not getting into the Landlord Route, it could be cool to have the Landlord die because of over drinking. Another person could move into his apartment as the Landlady, maybe a woman this time. She might attempt to steal MC (Player character) from the Female MC and you have the opportunity to cheat on her.
It's honestly just ideas, some good and some really bad.
The job stuff I havent thought of yet, it was just a mechanic I implemented to 'pass the day'.
Ok that female landlady idea isn't bad!! Noted! Thanks! No promises but it would probably be a massive update and require lots of work!
It would def add some variety.
Oh my god thank you for reporting all this, it's really really hard to find bugs by myself and it's kinda overwhelming to deal with them but I really do appreciate all the info! Not sure how I can fix players spamming through text and the view breaking, maybe I could have a player reset hotkey somewhere if something breaks as a temporary measure. This is something that needs more investigating on my part. I will fix the animation!
I'm not sure what this means, can you explain?
Screens need to have textures, got it! Varied anims coming soon as well.
I will fix the inconsistent text and yea it was supposed to be smaller but I kept adding animations and stuff and it grew out of control quickly!
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On that note it probably makes sense to have rising rents or at least some sort of interest paid(besides NTR going up stages) if you miss deadlines. You're always going to be making more money and profits will rise..- and i've seen sponsorships that are like 900 dollars for 3 days. a 450 a week(despite the landlord saying 550 in the prologue- also something to change I guess?).. is too easy to get. If you can pay it once- there's no reason you shouldn't be able to pay it a second time..
And also just my opinion but I think the heroine dialogue is a bit unfitting early on for scenes- the whole "I like it but i'm not doing this for that" type that she mentions in multiple scenes is sort of a turnoff. Yeah she can grow to like it after a while but this just implies she's a slut from the getgo and just doing it for the money without putting a whole lot of value on her body- hardly reluctant if she even enjoys kisses.- It's an NTR scene so maybe she should fight a bit more. impact and teasing is everything for the genre. On the topic of teasing- like I said RNG poses and a variety of %chance end of day scenes would be nice. Landlord is always watching a tv that's turned off- and when the rent is missed he is still doing this except now the heroine is fixing things up near the door. and as further scenes spiral she continues do that just with less clothes. Even just small things like the landlord looking in her direction while she fixes up the kitchen in ntrphase 1, rather than him watching tv would be a +. But also a chance for her to not go there during the day- and also a chance for her to do something besides fix things near the door. Especially in later levels where she has gone past thresholds with the landlord.. maybe times whenyou can't find her in her room- but also can't see her in landlords room through his window because she's behind the counter- much like the windowbj scene. You probably wanted most of the effort to be focusedin the diary recollection scenes but as someone who wants the mystery POV- the windowbj and scene variety like that is something I much rather see. Even if you can't make it into a full time serious project and don't want to put in all this extra work- the concept is so good that I hope more things like it exist. I've played all the simulators you clearly got the inspiration from but none of them mix it with hcontent.
Also edit: It is treated as backpay- because I was able to pay it the next week where I made 1000s- it took like 3k from me then. This was just a test.
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Honestly the game looks very promising, esspecially since it occupies that niche in which games usually get abandoned pretty fast, and the devs are often showered with comments like "hur dur animations bad" and "work faster, where content", so it's really nice to see that someone still wants to make these kinds of games!
Besides some obvious and mildly annoying bugs like:
- wonky disjointed camera after looking around a bit too fast (can be fixed by reloading the game)
- desktop interactions not working, im guessing some are disabled for now, but i specifically mean the app for stream management (afaik this cannot be fixed and you just have to spam click on the icon for it to work)
-the rent required does not correspond to amount we pay (possibly because you also have to pay off all the ones you missed, it'd be nice if it summed up)
I didn't find anything gamebreaking, i just feel like we're the first wave thrown at the game to root those things out, which im kinda okay with since the game has a lot of potential!
One thing i'd appriciate would be some indicators as to when new scenes are unlocked, for example: idk if the window bj scene is missable or it just goes on untill you trigger the conversation. I would honestly love to see more of those side interactions.
Can't wait for new content, dev please take care of your mental state and work at your own pace. Great work!
Besides some obvious and mildly annoying bugs like:
- wonky disjointed camera after looking around a bit too fast (can be fixed by reloading the game)
- desktop interactions not working, im guessing some are disabled for now, but i specifically mean the app for stream management (afaik this cannot be fixed and you just have to spam click on the icon for it to work)
-the rent required does not correspond to amount we pay (possibly because you also have to pay off all the ones you missed, it'd be nice if it summed up)
I didn't find anything gamebreaking, i just feel like we're the first wave thrown at the game to root those things out, which im kinda okay with since the game has a lot of potential!
One thing i'd appriciate would be some indicators as to when new scenes are unlocked, for example: idk if the window bj scene is missable or it just goes on untill you trigger the conversation. I would honestly love to see more of those side interactions.
Can't wait for new content, dev please take care of your mental state and work at your own pace. Great work!
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Got a lot more enjoyment out of this in the few hours of playtime than i expected from something labeled as "completed" right off the bat. Despite being fairly empty in some places and rough around all sorts of edges it still gets to the point well enough, while not requiring stomaching some overly convoluted and poorly established plot that would normally detract from the contents of the game itself, which is already an easy positive for me.
Oddly because of the completion label and the NTR stated to be avoidable i expected that path to be an afterthought, so i was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't the case. The premise behind the NTR path, in my opinion, is unfortunately way too primitive and definitely raises questions, seeing as i didn't see a single reason for the FMC to comply with whatever the landlord demands from her after not receiving a weekly rent (i could've overlooked something in the dialogue, but i doubt that). And while of course it's an understandable use of a trope for the NTR guy, i feel like one can try at least a bit to not use the most barebones plot point imaginable when presented with a choice of character personality/trait. I of course can't expect a better write up in that regard and character of Orochi as is can exist fine enough, but i can't not mention this little gripe of mine.
Game could obviously benefit from more dialogues and interactions between all of the characters throughout any time and day of the week, since otherwise there's barely anything worth noting about characters and barely anything to do besides the designated dating (can barely even call it that too since there's only like two dates or so) and rent days. It's in the moments like this you get to realise the importance of the usually empty and repetitive establishing dialogue/talk options in your average rpgs/vns. Better have some of that, no matter the writing, than pretty much none at all.
Seeing as this being "completed" is supposedly an error there's hope that there would be more fixes and additions to the already existing stuff, because similarly to the dialogue being barely present the whole concept of apartments is also almost non-existent, at least in FMC's apartments case. Ideally if the author could be bothered to break the original idea of FMC coming to Orochi herself and instead making him more stereotypically proactive then it would be easy to utilise FMC's apartment as a location for more sex scenes, ranging from some more bold harassment and ending with more chances for 24h "timelapse". I think one can utilise MC's apartment too if, for example, there's some sort of gathering or a party happening, or a joint stream where all currently existing characters gather under the same roof and there's more barely hidden action in MC's bathroom or living room.
That could potentially be expanded further if there was an option to use the money to upgrade MC's and/or FMC's apartments with extra furniture, expanding rooms, or fixing the living space if they can start with rundown apartments. Gives more versatility to the money and potentially provides more locations/situations for more sex scenes, since once again similar to the dialogues as a whole sex scenes besides the diary entries are largely non existent. Having one scene post 3rd or 4th diary entry on NTR route was nice, but it's rather sad that it's pretty much the only entry of its kind. Incorporating more dialogues/dates/other interactions would probably be easier if there existed another time of day like afternoon or night, i think. As for other things for mentioning i think we should be able to walk like 20% faster or so purely for convenience. Emails definitely deserve some attention as a further source of interaction between characters, and money system on MC's side should be more meaningful too a degree too, whether in a way i wrote above or through some other means.
And also speaking of hidden sex it's a shame that it barely exists at the moment and the entries that exist besides the one behind the door on the rent day don't even get acknowledged by the MC currently. It's even more jarring when at the very end you can openly see your gf cheating on you through the open window and there's no reaction at all, while FMC and Orochi being openly affectionate near MC only warrants "what's going on here" reaction.
Overall the current diary scenes on NTR route are alright overall, but given the walking stereotype that is Orochi there should definitely be more scenes before the main course of action and also after the deed gets done, because more fetishes/poses should be easily expected from that kind of guy imo. Of course besides the extra 3-4 diary scenes or so there should be more scenes during the week with more ways to observe them, perhaps even intervene/interrupt in some cases. As someone already mentioned having a bully editor as a close neighbour in the future (or what about that other female childhood friend mentioned at the end), or a further away one (teleport to some more apartments?) would be nice to shake things up. For example it could give FMC an opportunity to seek a rent loan/favour from said bully to pay Orochi instead of willingly giving herself up everytime. This game is one of the few where there's a lot of potential for expansion and improvement, but it's also probably pointless to brainstorm any of that too much whilst not being aware of technical limitations or a scope of a project as a whole, so i'll draw the line here.
Besides there's still already implemented stuff to be fixed anyway, like some of the sex scenes not even having the genitals present and/or hiding behind the pretense of clothed sex, or some simple misalignment as with the blowjob scene. From what i experienced, i think there were also some minor clipping of bodies through clothes and delayed triggers on landlords apartment's door coupled with being able to walk resulting in FMC clipping through the wall to the right of the door when the scene finally plays. And last, but not least i think i've had a bug with hidden sex behind door scene playing on a rent collection day while still having thigh sex diary entry being the most recently opened one.
All of this yapping aside thanks for the weirdly cozy lidl game experience, dev, hope you can expand way further upon what you already have in the foreseeable future.
Oddly because of the completion label and the NTR stated to be avoidable i expected that path to be an afterthought, so i was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't the case. The premise behind the NTR path, in my opinion, is unfortunately way too primitive and definitely raises questions, seeing as i didn't see a single reason for the FMC to comply with whatever the landlord demands from her after not receiving a weekly rent (i could've overlooked something in the dialogue, but i doubt that). And while of course it's an understandable use of a trope for the NTR guy, i feel like one can try at least a bit to not use the most barebones plot point imaginable when presented with a choice of character personality/trait. I of course can't expect a better write up in that regard and character of Orochi as is can exist fine enough, but i can't not mention this little gripe of mine.
Game could obviously benefit from more dialogues and interactions between all of the characters throughout any time and day of the week, since otherwise there's barely anything worth noting about characters and barely anything to do besides the designated dating (can barely even call it that too since there's only like two dates or so) and rent days. It's in the moments like this you get to realise the importance of the usually empty and repetitive establishing dialogue/talk options in your average rpgs/vns. Better have some of that, no matter the writing, than pretty much none at all.
Seeing as this being "completed" is supposedly an error there's hope that there would be more fixes and additions to the already existing stuff, because similarly to the dialogue being barely present the whole concept of apartments is also almost non-existent, at least in FMC's apartments case. Ideally if the author could be bothered to break the original idea of FMC coming to Orochi herself and instead making him more stereotypically proactive then it would be easy to utilise FMC's apartment as a location for more sex scenes, ranging from some more bold harassment and ending with more chances for 24h "timelapse". I think one can utilise MC's apartment too if, for example, there's some sort of gathering or a party happening, or a joint stream where all currently existing characters gather under the same roof and there's more barely hidden action in MC's bathroom or living room.
That could potentially be expanded further if there was an option to use the money to upgrade MC's and/or FMC's apartments with extra furniture, expanding rooms, or fixing the living space if they can start with rundown apartments. Gives more versatility to the money and potentially provides more locations/situations for more sex scenes, since once again similar to the dialogues as a whole sex scenes besides the diary entries are largely non existent. Having one scene post 3rd or 4th diary entry on NTR route was nice, but it's rather sad that it's pretty much the only entry of its kind. Incorporating more dialogues/dates/other interactions would probably be easier if there existed another time of day like afternoon or night, i think. As for other things for mentioning i think we should be able to walk like 20% faster or so purely for convenience. Emails definitely deserve some attention as a further source of interaction between characters, and money system on MC's side should be more meaningful too a degree too, whether in a way i wrote above or through some other means.
And also speaking of hidden sex it's a shame that it barely exists at the moment and the entries that exist besides the one behind the door on the rent day don't even get acknowledged by the MC currently. It's even more jarring when at the very end you can openly see your gf cheating on you through the open window and there's no reaction at all, while FMC and Orochi being openly affectionate near MC only warrants "what's going on here" reaction.
Overall the current diary scenes on NTR route are alright overall, but given the walking stereotype that is Orochi there should definitely be more scenes before the main course of action and also after the deed gets done, because more fetishes/poses should be easily expected from that kind of guy imo. Of course besides the extra 3-4 diary scenes or so there should be more scenes during the week with more ways to observe them, perhaps even intervene/interrupt in some cases. As someone already mentioned having a bully editor as a close neighbour in the future (or what about that other female childhood friend mentioned at the end), or a further away one (teleport to some more apartments?) would be nice to shake things up. For example it could give FMC an opportunity to seek a rent loan/favour from said bully to pay Orochi instead of willingly giving herself up everytime. This game is one of the few where there's a lot of potential for expansion and improvement, but it's also probably pointless to brainstorm any of that too much whilst not being aware of technical limitations or a scope of a project as a whole, so i'll draw the line here.
Besides there's still already implemented stuff to be fixed anyway, like some of the sex scenes not even having the genitals present and/or hiding behind the pretense of clothed sex, or some simple misalignment as with the blowjob scene. From what i experienced, i think there were also some minor clipping of bodies through clothes and delayed triggers on landlords apartment's door coupled with being able to walk resulting in FMC clipping through the wall to the right of the door when the scene finally plays. And last, but not least i think i've had a bug with hidden sex behind door scene playing on a rent collection day while still having thigh sex diary entry being the most recently opened one.
All of this yapping aside thanks for the weirdly cozy lidl game experience, dev, hope you can expand way further upon what you already have in the foreseeable future.
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Pretty sure the moment i've had the money to cover the 2 or 3 previously missed rent payments i could pay just fine, so it has to be just game stacking the bills without telling you so.
Yup, I also was able to pay when i had enough for backpay. I wish it would tell the total owed.
I wish we could see the footjob scene that i think supposedly happens right before the feet-in-face-thigh-job scene.
You asked about settings people mgiht want to see. I would like a setting option to turn on "danger sense". So i get a little exclamation mark on the screen or a DING! or something, when stuff like the outdoors blowjob happen. So i know, "oh, special scene that i can't revist might be happening". And actually, so far in my playing of the game, a scene like that only happened the one time, but if i missed some, or some are added later, might be nice to add that option.
As annoying as it might be to other people....I wish the streamer mechanics are worked on more heh, so i can pay attention more to what type of streams i should be doing, how i should be doing them, etc. Just as an optional way to min-max in the game.
I really like this game a lot. Thank you very much for producing it.
I wish we could see the footjob scene that i think supposedly happens right before the feet-in-face-thigh-job scene.
You asked about settings people mgiht want to see. I would like a setting option to turn on "danger sense". So i get a little exclamation mark on the screen or a DING! or something, when stuff like the outdoors blowjob happen. So i know, "oh, special scene that i can't revist might be happening". And actually, so far in my playing of the game, a scene like that only happened the one time, but if i missed some, or some are added later, might be nice to add that option.
As annoying as it might be to other people....I wish the streamer mechanics are worked on more heh, so i can pay attention more to what type of streams i should be doing, how i should be doing them, etc. Just as an optional way to min-max in the game.
I really like this game a lot. Thank you very much for producing it.
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Yeah I noticed shortly after posting since I tested it- which can be a mechanic ingame. Since it already works that way. But it should also be mentioned in dialogue. So- Landlord decides not to throw you out as long as you can pay it next time, as long as heroine helps around the apartment a bit. A leniency period for some extra help. But doesn't actually work towards your rent- just postpones the deadline and it's all stacking. I kinda like that idea- but dialogue should match as "This week is 450... and you missed last week.. so you owe 900" etc. Lot of ways that can try to maintain the game balance to make it feel more like a game when mechanically you'll only make more and more money so the first bill you pay without rising costs or other aspects can be considered a win condition(but it shouldn't be)
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Agreed, some small tweaks are a must to avoid some unnecessary confusion. When i encountered that first it was definitely the most confusing bit, even making me think that i was hardlocked on NTR path early on, but from what i remember i've just had around ~800$ while being indebted around ~1000$. At least while messing around with this and skipping till next rent payment days i've discovered that before certain progression points you can just pay the same amount of weeks in a row as you've missed before and you'll be back to the relationship with the GF ("cheating" path it was called above i assume). And later in the game when GF is too far gone starting to pay back at least helps with the return of the money flow for normal streams or so it seemed to me, which i might be slightly incorrect about since at one point i gave up on setting streams myself as well as liking/deleting comments (since they are currently completely useless, kinda similarly to the reply options when speaking to GF). Now if only MC could have a chance to be more proactive in the future and do some errands for Orochi to pay back the debts partially, all the while leaving his GF behind for more H content potential, wouldn't that be something
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At any point during Saturday go to landlord's apartment and enter it, that should trigger the conversation about rent
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You should check around. There's posts on how to apply for the Developer tag and take over this thread so you can manage it. Lots of dev's use f95 for their play testing feedback loop.
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If it's the first week then you can't since you only start paying up from second week.
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I really appreciate you taking the time to type all of that, solo dev is incredibly hard and comments like these do help with taking a step back and looking at the project with a wider lens.
Now about the 550 > 450, he actually gives a $50 discount to her if she cooks for him and and another $50 if she kisses him, that's in the diary scenes. But it's also a hard balance to strike because if I make the game too tough, people who dislike NTR and want the pure route might not wanna play if the game is unfair to them.
I agree about the dialogue being a little all over the place, it's hard to create such a complex project without bugs (especially all the video website part was HARD) and then to switch my mind to being an author of NTR dialogue can be tough lol, maybe I should read a few NTR mangas?
About the daily poses, there's already a randomization system in place for them, I just need to add the data to each stage to make additional scenarios happen in game. Might do this within a day or two.
> maybe times whenyou can't find her in her room- but also can't see her in landlords room through his window because she's behind the counter- much like the windowbj scene.
Sorry but can you explain that part? It sounds interesting, which counter are you talking about?
I can see why devs get overwhelmed with these projects, people are really critical of a free game lol. I get it, people could waste their time playing the game but it's hard to do everything alone and finding bugs alone is tough which is why I appreciate all these comments! It helps me prioritise things I've missed.
Bugs: the second and third bug have been fixed and will be in the next bugfix release today or tomorrow, I need to take a closer look at the first one.
I will try to add notifications when new diary entries are unlocked!
Welp, that was a LOT to read but very helpful, I wouldn't call the game completed especially when I plan to add a whole bunch of stuff, my to do list is pretty heavy lol.
I love the idea of the landlord barging into the FMC's door demanding either rent or that she work for him.. I might actually use that!
Yup, I will try to add dialogues between characters if the MC visits them on regular days but only after all the bugfixes.
> And last, but not least i think i've had a bug with hidden sex behind door scene playing on a rent collection day while still having thigh sex diary entry being the most recently opened one.
I havent seen that bug yet but I will investigate!
Not very far in, but the controls are confusing. Are we not able to watch the streams, or am I missing something?
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I have no idea if providing a savefile right before that situation happens can help the investigation or not, but i do have one just in case.
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Was just an example- in the case he had a counter. The same could be true from scenes via bathroom- or off to the side of window-or under like the window scene. The window scene from your pov was the best part as far as hcontent imo. If you're going for NTR impact- scenes like these just shine and are a staple. Same as like your stereotypical shower curtain headpeek or under table- around corner scenes-.. or side by side assgrabs. Maybe landlord even has a few times where he visits her room instead later-.. They're staples- that doesn't make them generic it just makes them what NTR fans seek out. But that all depends on the focus you want.. Early on you're able to open both his and her doors but can't talk to neither of them- mechanics like being able to invite her on costly dates to use some of the extra funds and put you more in danger of rent loss(but get a cute scene so it's worth it) would be nice. Or else what's the point of being able to open her door early on in the game?
In a perfect world- with a passionate huge team and unlimited budget- a game like this where you can choose other categories besides game(like just chatting streams, facecam, or with a vtuber model) and have lewd events within those scenes would be amazing. Like hand moving offscreen- and you able to stop mid watching and go check whats really happening- or her vtuber model making strange movements or sounds andyou can go check on what's really going on. Course- that's too ambitious for something meant to be a small project like this.