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wolfund

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And I a^ppreciate it, thanks...and like you can guess for yourself, I have the same idea as you. It's kinda weird (or should I say plain?) and there's no build up, only cheating without any reason so far.

We can only guess that MC pp is tiny but from the pictures, that doesn't seem the case... We can also see from miles away that MC will cheat too but with build up this time.

Anyway, game could be interesting but I won't be eager to wait for update like I am with NTR Mobile or My NTR Girlfriend.
Game is the perfect example as for why those phones games need "tricks" like NTR mobile nanomachines in my opinion. MC will certainly cheat but again, if it's only to get a pic after the fact with like two line of dialogue that can be resumed as "I felt good, did you felt good?" "I felt good too, see you tomorow?"

Big fat "MEH"

I almsot want to try my hand at making one of those just to try and make somethign a bit more interesting than what we got, but beyond writign I got NO idea how to code anything xD

Also something not obviously written by chatgpt. that would also seriously help my enjoyment.
 
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Aksy

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Game is the perfect example as for why those phones games need "tricks" like NTR mobile nanomachines in my opinion. MC will certainly cheat but again, if it's only to get a pic after the fact with like two line of dialogue that can be resumed as "I felt good, did you felt good?" "I felt good too, see you tomorow?"

Big fat "MEH"

I almsot want to try my hand at making one of those just to try and make somethign a bit more interesting than what we got, but beyond writign I got NO idea how to code anything xD
I have some ideas but writing isn't my forte, tho I know how to code to some extent thanks to my studies and degrees in school. I'm still rusty tho ahah

Tho knowing how to code made me cheat some SOLO games for stats or pictures unlocking. (Thanks to that I also have all secrets pictures in NTR mobile without needing to enter the required code)
 

Aksy

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I'll check it out, but it look like it's not yet on itchio so I'll have to settle for the wait. Not hoping for much really xD Thanks for the heads up!
I need to wait too but I meant as Patreon at least. Tho, like you, I'll check without any expectation and be surprised
 

wolfund

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I need to wait too but I meant as Patreon at least. Tho, like you, I'll check without any expectation and be surprised
It's funny how the AI phone bubble that came ou of NTR mobile and Netorase phone crashed in the last two months? Nearly no update anymore, update are anemics with few pics and even fewer scenes, there's an entire family of games that appear to be from different creators but are so closely alike I'd bet my right hand it's actually the same person behind (especially as the only thing not AI generated in those games is probably the code... and only because I'm no codeur myself and can't check it...)

Not particulary hit this game, Dev said clearly enough it was a first time project early on so my expectation for it are very low anyway. Not the case with some other games out there.
 

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The update focused more on the Sub patch, which can now be played through the chapter list when selected. If you're expecting a lot of content, it's best to let updates accumulate.
 

Gudil

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It's funny how the AI phone bubble that came ou of NTR mobile and Netorase phone crashed in the last two months? Nearly no update anymore, update are anemics with few pics and even fewer scenes, there's an entire family of games that appear to be from different creators but are so closely alike I'd bet my right hand it's actually the same person behind (especially as the only thing not AI generated in those games is probably the code... and only because I'm no codeur myself and can't check it...)

Not particulary hit this game, Dev said clearly enough it was a first time project early on so my expectation for it are very low anyway. Not the case with some other games out there.
I think I know wich games you are talking about, even the opening animations are the same but with a different animal.
 

Artist271

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The level of VNs has now definitely declined. A few years ago, the real creators invented, created and designed beautiful products. Today, AI has practically killed the VN market, building copy and paste versions of NTR phones. We are now saturated, but worse, no one, I repeat no one, is different. Total decline of VNs.
i just excluded ai cg of tags, and non ai cg games come out pretty damn consistently. so i'll just take your comment as fearmongering. There's only 1288 games with ai cgs.

But yeah, this game is slop. one of the bad phone games.
At least people here tried it out first before generalizing, that's always good to see.
 

wolfund

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i just excluded ai cg of tags, and non ai cg games come out pretty damn consistently. so i'll just take your comment as fearmongering. There's only 1288 games with ai cgs.

But yeah, this game is slop. one of the bad phone games.
At least people here tried it out first before generalizing, that's always good to see.
The problem isn't so much AI CG to be honest. there's some game out there that use AI CG who are actually good VN games. The problem is that those games have people behind them that actually craft everything else, the code to the story from top to bottom and those things ARE pretty solid. AI CG simply allow them to shelves updates faster without having to wait on an artist (it's also cheaper) but it's build on the basis of those game being actual good game to begin with.

The problem come from the 95% other games using AI art, because they also use AI coding, AI writing, have incredibly lazy plots, go nowhere for months on end, with anemic update probably thrown together in the span of a single week end at best but shelved every month or so seduce patreons users into a milking machine. But those games have existed long before AI everything arrived, there's been slop for years here (pointing at nearly every single real porn game stealing content for pics and video while being literally nothing than glorified slideshow out there), it's just that slop has never been easier to produce than today xD

I don't care if you use AI art, I care if you're story is good, if you're gameplay is decent and if your update are meaty enough to hold my attention for more than three and a half minute.

I don't mind THIS game in particular being part of the slop, since the dev actually was upfront that this was a first time ever game, tried a few things, plopped a pre alpha, rebooted it, trying to keep bugs under control. Will it go anywhere? No. Is the story any good? of course not. It's more of a student project with no skill behind it but it's fun to see if the dev can outgrow that poor start. I probably look up this game every once in a while more for that than for the game itself xD

And of course, they are actual decent and good games using AI cg out there, and well let's not beat around the bush they are 90% of the time made by people who ARE dev outside of this community and only needed to cut out the artist middleman to really get started, so of course those games are pretty good/decent, since they are made by people with experience in making those exact product.

Like Ntr mobile and Netorase phone are made by people who are or where devs before going full time indi game dev. And those two games are actually decent/good VN porn games compared to 95% of everything else.

Now them being to your taste or not is clearly a complete other matter.
 
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Artist271

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The problem isn't so much AI CG to be honest. there's some game out there that use AI CG who are actually good VN games. The problem is that those games have people behind them that actually craft everything else, the code to the story from top to bottom and those things ARE pretty solid. AI CG simply allow them to shelves updates faster without having to wait on an artist (it's also cheaper) but it's build on the basis of those game being actual good game to begin with.

The problem come from the 95% other games using AI art, because they also use AI coding, AI writing, have incredibly lazy plots, go nowhere for months on end, with anemic update probably thrown together in the span of a single week end at best but shelved every month or so seduce patreons users into a milking machine. But those games have existed long before AI everything arrived, there's been slop for years here (pointing at nearly every single real porn game stealing content for pics and video while being literally nothing than glorified slideshow out there), it's just that slop has never been easier to produce than today xD

I don't care if you use AI art, I care if you're story is good, if you're gameplay is decent and if your update are meaty enough to hold my attention for more than three and a half minute.

I don't mind THIS game in particular being part of the slop, since the dev actually was upfront that this was a first time ever game, tried a few things, plopped a pre alpha, rebooted it, trying to keep bugs under control. Will it go anywhere? No. Is the story any good? of course not. It's more of a student project with no skill behind it but it's fun to see if the dev can outgrow that poor start. I probably look up this game every once in a while more for that than for the game itself xD

And off the actual decent and good games using AI cg out there, well let's not beat around the bush they are 90% of the time made by people who ARE dev outside of the community and only needed to cut the artist middleman, so of course those games are pretty good/decent, since they are made by people with experience in making those exact product.

Now them being to your taste or not is clearly a complete other matter.
When discussing something, please don't use speculative statistics. it comes out as dishonest. But yeah, it brings more people who produce slop since AI is making the game development hurdle less and less. but AI really doesn't do well with the renpy coding language, though snippets of code work well. not for a full blown system for the game, so a higher than beginner level is required for complex things involving AI, y'know how tweaking is to make the code work, right? , in writing though that's a different story. While i don't believe your statistics, there was certainly an increase of slop.
 

wolfund

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The numbers are less stats and more sturgeon law. Don't take them at first degree.

Ai Writing is also spottable from a mile away and is really freaking bad. So are AI CG. I'm honestly more partial to AI writing since VN are so heavily reliant on good writing anyway.
 

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(ver. 0.8) again starting from the beginning? o_O i dont know how to create a game, but... it's really that hard to keep track of the saves? if you cant, try asking for help from other devs, there are a lot that are kind enough to help
 

Artist271

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The numbers are less stats and more sturgeon law. Don't take them at first degree.

Ai Writing is also spottable from a mile away and is really freaking bad. So are AI CG. I'm honestly more partial to AI writing since VN are so heavily reliant on good writing anyway.
If the numbers are “more Sturgeon’s Law than stats,” then they’re not actually evidence, they’re just a feeling. You can’t say “don’t take them literally” and then still expect them to back up a claim. Either the data’s solid, or it’s just opinion dressed up like fact. You can’t have it both ways, if they weren't meant to be taken at the first degree then there was no need for them.

You’re not wrong, a lot of AI writing and CG out there is lazy and obvious. But saying it’s always “spottable from a mile away” oversimplifies it. Some human work reads just as bad, and well-edited AI can slip under the radar. It’s not black and white.
 

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Biggest problem so far is the instagram is bugged and won't let you scroll down. Really annoying. The captions and progression are the sexiest thing about this game. The specific bit where the MySluttyHoe account posts the blowjob, then Mia send the picture frantically covering herself up, cum still in her mouth is INCREDIBLY sexy. Wish we got more like it.
So there is mention of branching paths. Besides the pretty blatant game over, or just refusing to engage with Alison, I can't find them.
In the gallery there are multiple photos of Mia in a red dress, then her covered in jizz. These don't seem to be anywhere in the game proper, along with a few other pictures. Anyone know if they are/hot to get them?
 
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