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On the Lovers Path she should resist more and f*ck more her boyfriend and do more and more lewd things, it won't be flat if the dev want it.
I'm disapointed by the number of sub-sub-sub path...... if you want all the picture you have to start again and again and again... and it is not possible to skip the text... it is too long. You want to change save, you have to shutdown you phone ? hmmm... restart yes but not shutdown, so Dev please you change this.
I love the graphic, the girl is very sexy ! i wait the pregnant event
I'm disapointed by the number of sub-sub-sub path...... if you want all the picture you have to start again and again and again... and it is not possible to skip the text... it is too long. You want to change save, you have to shutdown you phone ? hmmm... restart yes but not shutdown, so Dev please you change this.
I love the graphic, the girl is very sexy ! i wait the pregnant event
I would say there is still no real netorase path? I told her to not go to the work and after a few times her boss wrote me. Thought this will be the start of some nts friendship but nope
I completely get where your coming from 100% and your probably right but I also don't agree with it haha I suppose I feel well if we can see it he can see it and then him and Richard discuss the sluts in the city app , then he never acts on what Liz's friend says about the manager , I would say that if this was to purely be NTR based it would be fine , but the for the lovers path there is zero context to it at all we all assume that it's to do with blackmail with nothing to support it ... Think of it this way if I Implied that I am a supermodel with massive tits it doesn't make me one there's nothing to back it up , if the MC cant see certain things or act on things I think the supposed tools have been introduced too early , and if we look at the potential blackmailing aside from there being no evidence of it , there's no change in her emotions or demeanor nothing to suggest something is going on , then the posts on Matt's page there's no tears or anything just the odd somewhat grumpy face but again without context it just appears that she is willing posing for the photos and in some she does enjoy it by the look on her face .... Personally I think on the lovers path Liz going to fall for Matt as when he takes a softer approach she very much seems into it , so maybe it might go down the route of trying to win her back or something but I just don't see how it could be portrayed as Liz and the MC on the lovers path and it's all happy family's sort of thing , now when done right with this kinda game it works really well from what I can remember a promise best unkept does it very well
If I've missed anything on your post let me know but curious to see what you think around my other points
Blackmail is heavily implied in the aftermath of the initial club event and finally confirmed by Liz's post on the newly introduced BBS where she states that her boss is assaulting her and there may be negative consequences for her and her boyfriend if she doesn't let it happen. She may lose her job, may lose her relationship with the MC and decides to go along with it, unwilling but unable to do anything about it, at least in her mind. The MC acts on Sam's input to prevent the worst excesses and whether you find the photos convincing or not, Liz clearly states over and over that she is not OK with what is going on. I'd personally would have liked a "cleaner" Lover's path, but it's not the big swing and miss you portray it as imho.
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They are fair points I would agree that the lover path could of been done better with more context at least for me personally, I'm still on the fence around Liz and Matt with the softer approach as it seemed that she was into it , but il see how it progresses all the same haha
Also the supposed blackmail is my boss is groping me and if I don't let it happen and quit my job il have to tell my boyfriend I quit my job because my boss was trying to grope me and then we will break up , honestly that's not blackmail at all and any partner that would leave there partner because they quit there job because they where getting groped needs there head checked .... No you stay there and get groped and you enjoy it or I'm gone haha , again I feel that the game has potential it's just been rushed
Also cause I missed it before due to reasons I can't tell him off - come on now .... Even if these reasons are bad and she genuinely wants to keep her job she can't tell him off ... No your a bad boy ... Now go to horny jail until you learn your lesson hahaha ... No reporting it to HR or another manager , again I know it's a game but it feels like it's been half assed
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The blackmail material is Liz drunkenly "cheating" on her boyfriend after the club event with Matt (see M1), those are the "reasons" that won't go away even if she quits her job. People argue that this is really rather evidence against Matt for having sex with an unconscious person, so yes, there's some suspension of disbelief involved here. It's no different than 99% of the blackmail premises in the genre though ... if only the girl had told her boyfriend right away that she was assaulted
(And on a more serious note: A lot of sexual assault victims indeed do not speak up.)
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This...
Is the "reason".
This is what started it all. She went out for drinks with Sam and went home with her boss and well... a picture is worth a thousand words. This started the whole blackmail.
She says she can't quit her job or stop him because of what will happen with her relationship. This is why. This wasn't blackmail. This was her own careless mistake of getting drunk and inviting her boss into her home. One thing led to another, and the above happened. And Matt has proof of it via the picture.
If Matt shows this picture to the MC, then it's over. This picture isn't blackmail or her being forced into it, this is her straight up cheating. She has no excuse if Matt shows this picture to the MC. This is why she is putting up with everything. She doesn't want the MC to see this picture because he will know right away that she cheated on him.
Again this is all assumptions of what's being used mainly my main critic for it is a lack of context which there is none it's all blind faith , if you want to see blackmail done well in an NTR game play a promise best left unkept and I'm sure you will agree with me , personally for me for it to be blackmail there no backbone to it without context
Also with this picture the script doesn't portray it as cheating as he straight up asks if Matt made a move when he dropped her home and she says no not that I can remember if she had cheated she would of just said no , if that truly is the blackmail it's more that he's sexually assaulted her and would try and sell it as she cheated rather than her actual cheating
This I would agree with personally I don't like all the assumptions and think for a blackmail route it doesn't really work without both perspectives as it's really hard to put across other wiseThe blackmail material is Liz drunkenly "cheating" on her boyfriend after the club event with Matt (see M1), those are the "reasons" that won't go away even if she quits her job. People argue that this is really rather evidence against Matt for having sex with an unconscious person, so yes, there's some suspension of belief involved here. It's no different than 99% of the blackmail premises in the genre though ... if only the girl had told her boyfriend right away that she was assaulted
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Well, we only see the MC's side of things so all we have are assumptions. We go off the information that we have as a player. And so far, that is a pretty good reason to assume why all of this is happening.
Liz doesn't want the MC to know that she made a mistake and slept with her boss after getting drunk with Sam. But her boss, shows her the image and says if you don't want your boyfriend to find out, you'll do what I tell you to do. So, she goes along with it all to not ruin her relationship with the MC. Typical NTR plot.
Yeah, none of this is in the game, but it's a fair assumption that is what is going on. We can speculate all sorts of different scenarios, but without Liz's point of view, we can only go off the information that we have and draw our conclusion from that. Unless the dev decides to add Liz's perspective, then that is all we can do.
And I've played that game. Hangover does some good stuff. But that one also offers you different perspectives so you can see the story from everyone's point of view. Thus, why you have the context and the full story of what is going on. This game differs in that you only get the MC's point of view, so the rest is left up to you as a player to figure out what is going on instead of it being told to you via other's perspectives.
Also, a promise best left unkept's story requires a lot of suspension of disbelief as well. I don't know why it's mentioned as an example of good writing because it's not. It's good porn with hot characters and hot scenes, but that's it.
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i always thought this meant that she was blacked out drunk when matt did this and that matt had taken advantage of her. and taken this picture to blackmail her. never thought of it as them doing anything she consented to or even were aware of.
Well I mentioned it in regards to what way it puts across the blackmail route mainly
She was out of it enough to be taken advantage of. Getting wasted does not imply consent ... Matt on the other hand knew what he was doing.
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You can't compare a full renpy porn game vs a phone porn game. One will have less context than the others. The fun is how you fill the gap according to the context given yourself; the 'assumption' that you apparently don't like.
Of course, if you think it's unrealistic, that's fine. But you just can't expect a phone game to have full exposition for what, when, where, why, who, how. You can only have them up to a certain part/length and have to fill the rest yourself. Can it be explained better? Definitely. Will it satisfies you? When your point of comparison is a full renpy game, I think even if NosyFellow redid it all in the current phone game format, you still won't be satisfied because you aren't 'told' what exactly happened word by word.
hey no - let's assume that he only undressed her and ejaculated on her and there was no penetration
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Yeah, it's definitely one of those "We will never know" moments without having Liz's perspective. From the text message we get, she says that Matt took her home, and she woke up in her bed the next day without any recollection of what happened that night. The image doesn't really tell us if she had blacked out or not. Plus, Matt's message on ShareSpace doesn't say anything either about it.
So, we just assume what happened. Either she openly cheated and regretted it because she was drunk, or she blacked out and Matt raped her. Or she was so inebriated that she thought Matt was the MC and thought she was having sex with the MC (yeah, that one is a bit far-fetched lol). There could be a bunch of different possibilities.
Either way, without having Liz's perspective, we can only guess what had actually happened that night. That's the joy of mystery NTR lol.
Not at all Its not that I need to be told what happens word for word I'd just like more context to it , but if you want you can put it all together in a script for me and fill in the gaps and Il mark it for you and let you know how you got on
If I remember correctly I'm pretty sure on Matt's share space complained that there was no penetration so since we are filling in the gaps it would be safe to say he had a wank jizzed on her tits and staged the photo to look like they have done more to start the blackmail