Raferu

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not only you, the dev agreed about how stupid and silly the situation (the blackmail) LMAO.

tbf, most NTR game will only have 5 min of content if the mc or fmc are not idiot.
This. It's funny seeing so many people picking at minute details and trying to make sense of a porn game. Of course the plot is not gonna follow real world logic. It's just porn logic, which for all intents and purposes it's no more and no less than what a game like this needs. If anyone's hoping to see a masterfully woven plot then you might be in the wrong place.
 

Fitharia

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This. It's funny seeing so many people picking at minute details and trying to make sense of a porn game. Of course the plot is not gonna follow real world logic. It's just porn logic, which for all intents and purposes it's no more and no less than what a game like this needs. If anyone's hoping to see a masterfully woven plot then you might be in the wrong place.
Well I came across 2 ntr games before that somewhat could be realistic, but if you talk about logic, there is never anything like logic and perfection in the real world either.

I just love stories that have common sense with our reality somewhat, where the antogonist must be real clever to seduce his next prey without getting himself in trouble and still win her over to what he wants with her. But a manager that came out nowhere for only a max 3 month job with absolute power to corrupt anyone they want, is somewhat silly. Not even the CEO these days have that power, you can be CEO of your own company you build from ground up, the minute there is a board of directors they can vote you out of your own company, these days in companies there is always someone above someone with more power and say.

Also never heard of a company giving benefits that even cover a persons mother healthcare costs. But understandable if you got a sick mother then such benefits you would never want to lose, but still if a company in financial troubles, which isn't uncommon, such benefits are the first they would stop if they excisted.
 

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Also never heard of a company giving benefits that even cover a persons mother healthcare costs. But understandable if you got a sick mother then such benefits you would never want to lose, but still if a company in financial troubles, which isn't uncommon, such benefits are the first they would stop if they excisted.
Rather common where I live. You can usually put your entire family on the healthcare company (called a mutuel and cover what's not covered by the universal healthcare governmental system who usually take over like 80% of the any cost, if not total). Most people here don't pay out of pocket anything or just the few euro's leftover, so it's no big deal for the company to just go "well yeah whatever, just put everyone on the damn plan," thought sometime it's still better to forgo the company contract and goes for another one yourself, you can sometime get better deal in term of healthcare benefit but also for slightly higher price. French btw.
 

Xuqing1711

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Well I came across 2 ntr games before that somewhat could be realistic, but if you talk about logic, there is never anything like logic and perfection in the real world either.

I just love stories that have common sense with our reality somewhat, where the antogonist must be real clever to seduce his next prey without getting himself in trouble and still win her over to what he wants with her. But a manager that came out nowhere for only a max 3 month job with absolute power to corrupt anyone they want, is somewhat silly. Not even the CEO these days have that power, you can be CEO of your own company you build from ground up, the minute there is a board of directors they can vote you out of your own company, these days in companies there is always someone above someone with more power and say.

Also never heard of a company giving benefits that even cover a persons mother healthcare costs. But understandable if you got a sick mother then such benefits you would never want to lose, but still if a company in financial troubles, which isn't uncommon, such benefits are the first they would stop if they excisted.
What is the name of the NTR game you play, I really want to know, because I like NTR games
 

Fitharia

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Rather common where I live. You can usually put your entire family on the healthcare company (called a mutuel and cover what's not covered by the universal healthcare governmental system who usually take over like 80% of the any cost, if not total). Most people here don't pay out of pocket anything or just the few euro's leftover, so it's no big deal for the company to just go "well yeah whatever, just put everyone on the damn plan," thought sometime it's still better to forgo the company contract and goes for another one yourself, you can sometime get better deal in term of healthcare benefit but also for slightly higher price. French btw.
Didn't knew France had such good benefits, so far here in Belgium, we also have family assurance, but that only count to the workers family, meaning partner and children, but doesn't count healthcare and such, some can have company cars and bonus cheques, even pension savings for the worker. Geuss even Europe is united, countries still have different benefits. I know we can pay for our own healthcare covered by various companies and funded by the goverment, even put whole family in one healthcare company, but I never knew there were jobs that would give healthcare benefits on top for a whole family like mother, father, employee + partner and children, here it more assurances for family and life assurances if dangerous job.
 

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What is the name of the NTR game you play, I really want to know, because I like NTR games
Wish I remembered the names, but I play so many VN i forgot some names of games that already finished, I know it were 2 completed NTR VN with beautiful renders and all, but the story was also fluent written and could happened in real as well. But I play mostly NTS, sharing, swinging, netori and wholesome games, most NTR I kinda avoid as they just bad written, this one is pretty decent, but still fantasy unrealistic. But not as bad as those Japanese NTR games.
 

wolfund

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Didn't knew France had such good benefits, so far here in Belgium, we also have family assurance, but that only count to the workers family, meaning partner and children, but doesn't count healthcare and such, some can have company cars and bonus cheques, even pension savings for the worker. Geuss even Europe is united, countries still have different benefits. I know we can pay for our own healthcare covered by various companies and funded by the goverment, even put whole family in one healthcare company, but I never knew there were jobs that would give healthcare benefits on top for a whole family like mother, father, employee + partner and children, here it more assurances for family and life assurances if dangerous job.

To be fair the "mutuels" are really cheap as they only have to cover something like 20% on average of leftover cost after the universal healtcare system we pay with our taxes. And it's no guarantee to be able to put your parents on the mutuels it depend of the contract, but it's common enough I knew about it off hand. The bulk is still partner + children though.

What usually happen is big company can negotiate by going to the negotiating table with thousands of potential employee so they can grab as many benefits as they can, and while it's not that much of an insentive to for a job, the best mutuel are always nice to have.

You can negotiate to have your parents on a mutuel you contact yourself but in general it's going to cost you more then if you're not doing that, or if you're not using company mutuel. Most people don't really use the mutuel for their parents, it's mostly those whose parent's are unable to care for themselves that do.

Just about the only thing I had to pay in the last ten years must amount to around 200 bucks total, for two hospitalization (round 20 bucks each), some physiotherapist session as well as one or two medicine not fully covered by both healthcare and mutuel. And one medical RDV with my doctor where I forgot to bring my carte vitale and never went aroudn getting reimboursed xD Never had to pay for dental, glasses, common medicine or medical visits. Even Psychological supports are free if you know where to look for...

But as a rule of thumbs Healthcare is nothing to worry about in France, or in Europe in general anyway. Country differ a bit but unless you're an orphan vegetables (in which case you're probably dead anyway) chances are you're not going to have to pay much out of pocket if anything to get you're health in order. Still there is a reason why the WHO rate France as having hte best healthcare system in the world xD

Far far away from the nightmarish story I keep hearing about the otherside of the Atlantic that's for sure XDD
 
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falk42

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Finally finished the NTR route again and gotten the alpha chat, so basicly Matt blackmails her with a vid he made of raping her after the first time she went out with Sam. And since that wasn't enough he tells her about a meeting coming up that will cut back all benefits for office workers and her name on it, he can remove it aslong she does keep him sexual company for 3 months. Which is the strangest part, they only hired him for a 2 a 3 month period as manager. Either that company is in serious financial problems or Matt did something to the original manager so he is out for 2 a 3 months, only to get his place temporarly to fuck up the MC's gf just for fun.

I find it silly to blackmail someone with a rape vid he makes, that would be more blackmail material towards him, she could gone just to the cops with it. And when they investigate him they probably will find tuns of rape vids Matt done. And if the company decide to cut back benefits, that means they in financial trouble, so even erase her name from the list won't solve that the company cut back those benefits anyway, if they find out she still get them, she in more trouble as they could accuse her for erasing her name and make her pay back what she no longer had rights on. So I can only say she been stupid to listen to Matt and give into his perverse sickness.
None of this requires too much suspension of belief imho. The 2-3 months thing could mean that Matt has been hired to help make some cuts in the department and then move on ... or he could be lying about the duration to give Liz a false sense of security. Same goes for the list he mentions - maybe it exists, maybe it doesn't. Matt doesn't say this directly, but he seems to know that those cuts would hit Liz hard, so *maybe* he knows about the situation with her mother, which would indicate that he has access to insider knowledge.

As for the "cheating" situation: Liz does not have the video (nor the photo because she does not know about Matt's ShareSpace and it's completely pixelated for non-members anyway) and though she states that it's clear she wasn't able to give consent, it'd her word against Matt's and the video. We only have seen the photo where she looks pretty out of it, but who knows what the video shows; perhaps it's enough to provide reasonable doubt when it comes to a rape claim. Seems pretty coherent to me, for a porn game anyway.
 
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Jiroah

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As for the "cheating" situation: Liz does not have the video (nor the photo because she does not know about Matt's ShareSpace and it's completely pixelated for non-members anyway) and though she states that it's clear she wasn't able to give consent, it'd her word against Matt's and the video. We only have seen the photo where she looks pretty out of it, but who knows what the video shows; perhaps it's enough to provide reasonable doubt when it comes to a rape claim. Seems pretty coherent for me, for a porn game anyway.
We don't know much about that night except the alpha chatlogs and the pictures.
The only other thing we know is that Matt forced his way into Liz place... After the club with the MC at some moment Liz ask the MC why he didn't stay and the MC answer he didn't want to intrude because she was passed out. At what Liz answer "That didn't prevented HIM from doing it".
 

falk42

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We don't know much about that night except the alpha chatlogs and the pictures.
The only other thing we know is that Matt forced his way into Liz place... After the club with the MC at some moment Liz ask the MC why he didn't stay and the MC answer he didn't want to intrude because she was passed out. At what Liz answer "That didn't prevented HIM from doing it".
That's actually the 2nd club event, the chatlog refers to the 1st night out where Liz and Sam went alone and Matt brought Liz home (M5).
 

Jiroah

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That's actually the 2nd club event, the chatlog refers to the 1st night out where Liz and Sam went alone and where Matt brought Liz home (M001).
Yes indeed but when she say "That didn't prevented HIM" it refers to the first
 

falk42

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Yes indeed but when she say "That didn't prevented HIM" it refers to the first
The way I understood it is that the "that didn't prevent him" refers to the toilet scene during the 2nd club visit (Liz with the MC) where Matt more or less forced himself on a drunk Liz (with some assistance from the nano-bots) and the MC brings her home and then leaves.
 

Jiroah

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The way I understood it is that the "that didn't prevent him" refers to the toilet scene during the 2nd club visit (Liz with the MC) where Matt more or less forced himself on a drunk Liz (with some assistance from the nano-bots) and the MC brings her home and then leaves.
It could be correct if Liz didn't say that just after the MC said he didn't want to to intrude because she was passed out
 

dnylive

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The way I understood it is that the "that didn't prevent him" refers to the toilet scene during the 2nd club visit (Liz with the MC) where Matt more or less forced himself on a drunk Liz (with some assistance from the nano-bots) and the MC brings her home and then leaves.
Liz also says the same to MC even without the bathroom scene on the 2nd club visit.
So
i think it refers to the 1st club visit or specifically what happened after it, at her home.
 
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falk42

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Liz also says the same to MC even without the bathroom scene on the 2nd club visit.
So i think it refers to the 1st club visit.
No, without the bathroom scene (talking to Matt) you can choose to fool around or have sex with Liz, both of which won't lead to her saying "that didn't prevent him". Only got it after Matt joining her in the bathroom, which I'm pretty sure she refers to.
 
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dnylive

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No, without the bathroom scene (talking to Matt) you can choose to fool around or have sex with Liz. She never says "that didn't prevent him" in that case.
Ok, i got the routes mixed up. Thanks for pointing it out.
I still think it refers to what happened after the 1st club visit though.
 

falk42

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Ok, i got the routes mixed up. Thanks for pointing it out.
I still think it refers to what happened after the 1st club visit though.
The sequence of events makes me think otherwise, but it's not impossible ... or she could also refer to both instances.
 

Fitharia

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None of this requires too much suspension of belief imho. The 2-3 months thing could mean that Matt has been hired to help make some cuts in the department and then move on ... or he could be lying about the duration to give Liz a false sense of security. Same goes for the list he mentions - maybe it exists, maybe it doesn't. Matt doesn't say this directly, but he seems to know that those cuts would hit Liz hard, so *maybe* he knows about the situation with her mother, which would indicate that he has access to insider knowledge.

As for the "cheating" situation: Liz does not have the video (nor the photo because she does not know about Matt's ShareSpace and it's completely pixelated for non-members anyway) and though she states that it's clear she wasn't able to give consent, it'd her word against Matt's and the video. We only have seen the photo where she looks pretty out of it, but who knows what the video shows; perhaps it's enough to provide reasonable doubt when it comes to a rape claim. Seems pretty coherent to me, for a porn game anyway.
Well she doesn't need the vid or the pictures, to go to the cops. If the whole blackmail conversation happened over messages on the phone it enough for her. It might never become a case in court, but it will be enough that the company will fire him and compensate her somehow for what he tried to do. Maybe let her keep benefits, give her a raise instead or find her another company who still give those same benefits. So that would still be a win for her there. Ofcourse if the cops investigate him further and find more evidence about the abuse of women, then there might come a case for court, but for her it will never be more then attempted rape as he never penetrated her then. But only works if she went right away after that conversation through messages to the cops. If she waits and let those things happen, then she has no ground to win. She is just to naive to fall into his trap, would never happened to me.
 
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Johnny259

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Well she doesn't need the vid or the pictures, to go to the cops. If the whole blackmail conversation happened over messages on the phone it enough for her. It might never become a case in court, but it will be enough that the company will fire him and compensate her somehow for what he tried to do. Maybe let her keep benefits, give her a raise instead or find her another company who still give those same benefits. So that would still be a win for her there. Ofcourse if the cops investigate him further and find more evidence about the abuse of women, then there might come a case for court, but for her it will never be more then attempted rape as he never penetrated her then. But only works if she went right away after that conversation through messages to the cops. If she waits and let those things happen, then she has no ground to win. She is just to naive to fall into his trap, would never happened to me.
I have a feeling Matt is tied to someone influential like being the son of the company, high ranking officer in the police or politician. It is evident that this wasn't his first time pulling this so it may just be his reliance on experience.
 
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