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Blackmail is heavily implied and confirmed by Liz's post on the newly introduced BBS where she states that her boss is assaulting her and there may be negative consequences for her and her boyfriend if she doesn't let it happen. She may lose her job, may lose her relationship with the MC and decides to go along with it, unwilling but unable to do anything about it, at least in her mind. The MC acts on Sam's input to prevent the worst excesses and whether you find the photos convincing or not, Liz clearly states over and over that she is not OK with what is going on. I'd personally would have liked a "cleaner" Lover's path, but it's not the big swing and miss you portray it as imho.
They are fair points I would agree that the lover path could of been done better with more context at least for me personally, I'm still on the fence around Liz and Matt with the softer approach as it seemed that she was into it , but il see how it progresses all the same haha

Also the supposed blackmail is my boss is groping me and if I don't let it happen and quit my job il have to tell my boyfriend I quit my job because my boss was trying to grope me and then we will break up , honestly that's not blackmail at all and any partner that would leave there partner because they quit there job because they where getting groped needs there head checked .... No you stay there and get groped and you enjoy it or I'm gone haha , again I feel that the game has potential it's just been rushed

Also cause I missed it before due to reasons I can't tell him off - come on now .... Even if these reasons are bad and she genuinely wants to keep her job she can't tell him off ... No your a bad boy ... Now go to horny jail until you learn your lesson hahaha ... No reporting it to HR or another manager , again I know it's a game but it feels like it's been half assed
 
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They are fair points I would agree that the lover path could of been done better with more context at least for me personally, I'm still on the fence around Liz and Matt with the softer approach as it seemed that she was into it , but il see how it progresses all the same haha

Also the supposed blackmail is my boss is groping me and if I don't let it happen and quit my job il have to tell my boyfriend I quit my job because my boss was trying to grope me and then we will break up , honestly that's not blackmail at all and any partner that would leave there partner because they quit there job because they where getting groped needs there head checked .... No you stay there and get groped and you enjoy it or I'm gone haha , again I feel that the game has potential it's just been rushed

Also cause I missed it before due to reasons I can't tell him off - come on now .... Even if these reasons are bad and she genuinely wants to keep her job she can't tell him off ... No your a bad boy ... Now go to horny jail until you learn your lesson hahaha ... No reporting it to HR or another manager , again I know it's a game but it feels like it's been half assed
The blackmail material is Liz drunkenly "cheating" on her boyfriend after the club event with Matt (see M1), those are the "reasons" that won't go away even if she quits her job. People argue that this is really rather evidence against Matt for having sex with an unconscious person, so yes, there's some suspension of disbelief involved here. It's no different than 99% of the blackmail premises in the genre though ... if only the girl had told her boyfriend right away that she was assaulted ;) (And on a more serious note: A lot of sexual assault victims indeed do not speak up.)
 
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They are fair points I would agree that the lover path could of been done better with more context at least for me personally, I'm still on the fence around Liz and Matt with the softer approach as it seemed that she was into it , but il see how it progresses all the same haha

Also the supposed blackmail is my boss is groping me and if I don't let it happen and quit my job il have to tell my boyfriend I quit my job because my boss was trying to grope me and then we will break up , honestly that's not blackmail at all and any partner that would leave there partner because they quit there job because they where getting groped needs there head checked .... No you stay there and get groped and you enjoy it or I'm gone haha , again I feel that the game has potential it's just been rushed

Also cause I missed it before due to reasons I can't tell him off - come on now .... Even if these reasons are bad and she genuinely wants to keep her job she can't tell him off ... No your a bad boy ... Now go to horny jail until you learn your lesson hahaha ... No reporting it to HR or another manager , again I know it's a game but it feels like it's been half assed
This...

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Is the "reason".

This is what started it all. She went out for drinks with Sam and went home with her boss and well... a picture is worth a thousand words. This started the whole blackmail.

She says she can't quit her job or stop him because of what will happen with her relationship. This is why. This wasn't blackmail. This was her own careless mistake of getting drunk and inviting her boss into her home. One thing led to another, and the above happened. And Matt has proof of it via the picture.

If Matt shows this picture to the MC, then it's over. This picture isn't blackmail or her being forced into it, this is her straight up cheating. She has no excuse if Matt shows this picture to the MC. This is why she is putting up with everything. She doesn't want the MC to see this picture because he will know right away that she cheated on him.
 

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This...

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Is the "reason".

This is what started it all. She went out for drinks with Sam and went home with her boss and well... a picture is worth a thousand words. This started the whole blackmail.

She says she can't quit her job or stop him because of what will happen with her relationship. This is why. This wasn't blackmail. This was her own careless mistake of getting drunk and inviting her boss into her home. One thing led to another, and the above happened. And Matt has proof of it via the picture.

If Matt shows this picture to the MC, then it's over. This picture isn't blackmail or her being forced into it, this is her straight up cheating. She has no excuse if Matt shows this picture to the MC. This is why she is putting up with everything. She doesn't want the MC to see this picture because he will know right away that she cheated on him.
Again this is all assumptions of what's being used mainly my main critic for it is a lack of context which there is none it's all blind faith , if you want to see blackmail done well in an NTR game play a promise best left unkept and I'm sure you will agree with me , personally for me for it to be blackmail there no backbone to it without context

Also with this picture the script doesn't portray it as cheating as he straight up asks if Matt made a move when he dropped her home and she says no not that I can remember if she had cheated she would of just said no , if that truly is the blackmail it's more that he's sexually assaulted her and would try and sell it as she cheated rather than her actual cheating
 
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The blackmail material is Liz drunkenly "cheating" on her boyfriend after the club event with Matt (see M1), those are the "reasons" that won't go away even if she quits her job. People argue that this is really rather evidence against Matt for having sex with an unconscious person, so yes, there's some suspension of belief involved here. It's no different than 99% of the blackmail premises in the genre though ... if only the girl had told her boyfriend right away that she was assaulted ;)
This I would agree with personally I don't like all the assumptions and think for a blackmail route it doesn't really work without both perspectives as it's really hard to put across other wise
 

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Again this is all assumptions of what's being used mainly my main critic for it is a lack of context which there is none it's all blind faith , if you want to see blackmail done well in an NTR game play a promise best left unkept and I'm sure you will agree with me , personally for me for it to be blackmail there no backbone to it without context
Well, we only see the MC's side of things so all we have are assumptions. We go off the information that we have as a player. And so far, that is a pretty good reason to assume why all of this is happening.

Liz doesn't want the MC to know that she made a mistake and slept with her boss after getting drunk with Sam. But her boss, shows her the image and says if you don't want your boyfriend to find out, you'll do what I tell you to do. So, she goes along with it all to not ruin her relationship with the MC. Typical NTR plot.

Yeah, none of this is in the game, but it's a fair assumption that is what is going on. We can speculate all sorts of different scenarios, but without Liz's point of view, we can only go off the information that we have and draw our conclusion from that. Unless the dev decides to add Liz's perspective, then that is all we can do.

And I've played that game. Hangover does some good stuff. But that one also offers you different perspectives so you can see the story from everyone's point of view. Thus, why you have the context and the full story of what is going on. This game differs in that you only get the MC's point of view, so the rest is left up to you as a player to figure out what is going on instead of it being told to you via other's perspectives.
 
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Well, we only see the MC's side of things so all we have are assumptions. We go off the information that we have as a player. And so far, that is a pretty good reason to assume why all of this is happening.

Liz doesn't want the MC to know that she made a mistake and slept with her boss after getting drunk with Sam. But her boss, shows her the image and says if you don't want your boyfriend to find out, you'll do what I tell you to do. So, she goes along with it all to not ruin her relationship with the MC. Typical NTR plot.

Yeah, none of this is in the game, but it's a fair assumption that is what is going on. We can speculate all sorts of different scenarios, but without Liz's point of view, we can only go off the information that we have and draw our conclusion from that. Unless the dev decides to add Liz's perspective, then that is all we can do.

And I've played that game. Hangover does some good stuff. But that one also offers you different perspectives so you can see the story from everyone's point of view. Thus, why you have the context and the full story of what is going on. This game differs in that you only get the MC's point of view, so the rest is left up to you as a player to figure out what is going on instead of it being told to you via other's perspectives.
Also, a promise best left unkept's story requires a lot of suspension of disbelief as well. I don't know why it's mentioned as an example of good writing because it's not. It's good porn with hot characters and hot scenes, but that's it.
 

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This...

View attachment 4658898

Is the "reason".

This is what started it all. She went out for drinks with Sam and went home with her boss and well... a picture is worth a thousand words. This started the whole blackmail.

She says she can't quit her job or stop him because of what will happen with her relationship. This is why. This wasn't blackmail. This was her own careless mistake of getting drunk and inviting her boss into her home. One thing led to another, and the above happened. And Matt has proof of it via the picture.

If Matt shows this picture to the MC, then it's over. This picture isn't blackmail or her being forced into it, this is her straight up cheating. She has no excuse if Matt shows this picture to the MC. This is why she is putting up with everything. She doesn't want the MC to see this picture because he will know right away that she cheated on him.
i always thought this meant that she was blacked out drunk when matt did this and that matt had taken advantage of her. and taken this picture to blackmail her. never thought of it as them doing anything she consented to or even were aware of.
 
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Also, a promise best left unkept's story requires a lot of suspension of disbelief as well. I don't know why it's mentioned as an example of good writing because it's not. It's good porn with hot characters and hot scenes, but that's it.
Well I mentioned it in regards to what way it puts across the blackmail route mainly
 

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i always thought this meant that she was blacked out drunk when matt did this and that matt had taken advantage of her. and taken this picture to blackmail her. never thought of it as them doing anything she consented to or even were aware of.
She was out of it enough to be taken advantage of. Getting wasted does not imply consent ... Matt on the other hand knew what he was doing.
 
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This I would agree with personally I don't like all the assumptions and think for a blackmail route it doesn't really work without both perspectives as it's really hard to put across other wise
You can't compare a full renpy porn game vs a phone porn game. One will have less context than the others. The fun is how you fill the gap according to the context given yourself; the 'assumption' that you apparently don't like.

Of course, if you think it's unrealistic, that's fine. But you just can't expect a phone game to have full exposition for what, when, where, why, who, how. You can only have them up to a certain part/length and have to fill the rest yourself. Can it be explained better? Definitely. Will it satisfies you? When your point of comparison is a full renpy game, I think even if NosyFellow redid it all in the current phone game format, you still won't be satisfied because you aren't 'told' what exactly happened word by word.
 
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i always thought this meant that she was blacked out drunk when matt did this and that matt had taken advantage of her. and taken this picture to blackmail her. never thought of it as them doing anything she consented to or even were aware of.
hey no - let's assume that he only undressed her and ejaculated on her and there was no penetration
 
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i always thought this meant that she was blacked out drunk when matt did this and that matt had taken advantage of her. and taken this picture to blackmail her. never thought of it as them doing anything she consented to or even were aware of.
Yeah, it's definitely one of those "We will never know" moments without having Liz's perspective. From the text message we get, she says that Matt took her home, and she woke up in her bed the next day without any recollection of what happened that night. The image doesn't really tell us if she had blacked out or not. Plus, Matt's message on ShareSpace doesn't say anything either about it.

So, we just assume what happened. Either she openly cheated and regretted it because she was drunk, or she blacked out and Matt raped her. Or she was so inebriated that she thought Matt was the MC and thought she was having sex with the MC (yeah, that one is a bit far-fetched lol). There could be a bunch of different possibilities.

Either way, without having Liz's perspective, we can only guess what had actually happened that night. That's the joy of mystery NTR lol.
 

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You can't compare a full renpy porn game vs a phone porn game. One will have less context than the others. The fun is how you fill the gap according to the context given yourself; the 'assumption' that you apparently don't like.

Of course, if you think it's unrealistic, that's fine. But you just can't expect a phone game to have full exposition for what, when, where, why, who, how. You can only have them up to a certain part/length and have to fill the rest yourself. Can it be explained better? Definitely. Will it satisfies you? When your point of comparison is a full renpy game, I think even if NosyFellow redid it all in the current phone game format, you still won't be satisfied because you aren't 'told' what exactly happened word by word.
Not at all Its not that I need to be told what happens word for word I'd just like more context to it , but if you want you can put it all together in a script for me and fill in the gaps and Il mark it for you and let you know how you got on
 

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Yeah, it's definitely one of those "We will never know" moments without having Liz's perspective. From the text message we get, she says that Matt took her home, and she woke up in her bed the next day without any recollection of what happened that night. The image doesn't really tell us if she had blacked out or not. Plus, Matt's message on ShareSpace doesn't say anything either about it.

So, we just assume what happened. Either she openly cheated and regretted it because she was drunk, or she blacked out and Matt raped her. Or she was so inebriated that she thought Matt was the MC and thought she was having sex with the MC (yeah, that one is a bit far-fetched lol). There could be a bunch of different possibilities.

Either way, without having Liz's perspective, we can only guess what had actually happened that night. That's the joy of mystery NTR lol.
If I remember correctly I'm pretty sure on Matt's share space complained that there was no penetration so since we are filling in the gaps it would be safe to say he had a wank jizzed on her tits and staged the photo to look like they have done more to start the blackmail
 

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It's odd. I think he gives you the link whatever your route is, and there's no option to choose from, so you get it everytime. Did you get to the end of the content? (The last conversation with Richard is partly about... yogurt, of all things, lol--that's when he gives you the link.)
Solved, I had to continue talking to Richard and he unlocked the icon where at the end is a chat to share opinions and suggestions on the questions of the posts. No image. I think that in the future we could have an interaction or dialogue options where we could also suggest what to do.
 

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If I remember correctly I'm pretty sure on Matt's share space complained that there was no penetration so since we are filling in the gaps it would be safe to say he had a wank jizzed on her tits and staged the photo to look like they have done more to start the blackmail
Well, yeah because the picture doesn't show penetration. It is just a user complaining that he didn't post a picture of the penetration. It is just showing the aftermath, or so we assume. We don't know if they actually had sex, or if Matt just stripped her down and jerked off on her.

If you want to go into details about the image, we can see her panties are pulled to the side, so her vagina is exposed under his cock. The picture could have been taken of him pulling out of her and then cumming all over her. Or he pulled her panties to the side and then jerked off on her, giving the illusion that they had sex.

It could be staged, or they could have had sex. That could be a picture of the aftermath, or just a simple staged picture to look like that. We don't know without knowing what happened before that picture. And since that is the only picture we have of that moment, we'll never know the truth. Unless of course, Liz or Matt tells us what happened. And then it's just a matter of if we believe it or not.
 

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Well, yeah because the picture doesn't show penetration. It is just a user complaining that he didn't post a picture of the penetration. It is just showing the aftermath, or so we assume. We don't know if they actually had sex, or if Matt just stripped her down and jerked off on her.

If you want to go into details about the image, we can see her panties are pulled to the side, so her vagina is exposed under his cock. The picture could have been taken of him pulling out of her and then cumming all over her. Or he pulled her panties to the side and then jerked off on her, giving the illusion that they had sex.

It could be staged, or they could have had sex. That could be a picture of the aftermath, or just a simple staged picture to look like that. We don't know without knowing what happened before that picture. And since that is the only picture we have of that moment, we'll never know the truth. Unless of course, Liz or Matt tells us what happened. And then it's just a matter of if we believe it or not.
I just double checked the picture and the pants are pulled to the side haha the plot thickens .... She's for the streets now don't even want her now haha

Tho I do wish with these phone games you could enter your own text sometimes haha would be funny
 
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Well, yeah because the picture doesn't show penetration. It is just a user complaining that he didn't post a picture of the penetration. It is just showing the aftermath, or so we assume. We don't know if they actually had sex, or if Matt just stripped her down and jerked off on her.

If you want to go into details about the image, we can see her panties are pulled to the side, so her vagina is exposed under his cock. The picture could have been taken of him pulling out of her and then cumming all over her. Or he pulled her panties to the side and then jerked off on her, giving the illusion that they had sex.

It could be staged, or they could have had sex. That could be a picture of the aftermath, or just a simple staged picture to look like that. We don't know without knowing what happened before that picture. And since that is the only picture we have of that moment, we'll never know the truth. Unless of course, Liz or Matt tells us what happened. And then it's just a matter of if we believe it or not.
There was no penetration that night, the ring doesn’t update her to non-virgin until he visits her at home after work or the mc has her stay over.
 

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There was no penetration that night, the ring doesn’t update her to non-virgin until he visits her at home after work or the mc has her stay over.
Does she get the ring before or after the night out I can't remember

Then on the other side if she was a virgin and fucked Matt first then the MC you'd like to think he'd be like what the fuck is going on here I thought you where a virgin your loose as fuck haha it's like throwing a sausage down a hallway for me here what gives
 
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