Rakan

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Any advice on how to get NTR High Will? What's the cutoff for having a high will? Like, 50% and above?

Also, does anyone know what the new Patreon post about Richard and Sam is talking about? Got me curious
 

Filipis

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By definition, NTR is about the girlfriend/wife getting stolen, whether by one dude or the whole town is irrelevant.
True, but that some factors make it better than others. Having NTR play out as a legit "affair" is miles more intruiging to witness than your gf just riding every dude she comes upon.

In this case, having Liz continue her affair with her manager whenever she can, while still saying "love you, babe" is exactly what NTR should be about. Naturally, at some point, she will get tired of the charade, and just leave with the other guy, but this game has a finger on the pulse of the NTR process.
 

falk42

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True, but that some factors make it better than others. Having NTR play out as a legit "affair" is miles more intruiging to witness than your gf just riding every dude she comes upon.

In this case, having Liz continue her affair with her manager whenever she can, while still saying "love you, babe" is exactly what NTR should be about. Naturally, at some point, she will get tired of the charade, and just leave with the other guy, but this game has a finger on the pulse of the NTR process.
In one (or some?) of the NTR ending(s) that's probably exactly what's going to happen, but depending on her stats you'll get the chance to win Liz back from that path ... now whether you'd even want that is another story, but I appreciate how much work Nosy is putting into all the little branches. Many games pretend to give choices, some not even that, it's interesting and worthwhile to try the different options in this one.
 
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falk42

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4) I think pacing is nice and I'm trying to have loyal gf path (please tell me if it's possible or not) but something bothered me. Even she was forced to have sex game labeled it as cheated. Sure technically she had sex with another man so it can count as cheating but this game should have better distinction between willed sex with stranger and unwilling.
If you manage to stay on the Lover's path, the counter will remain at "0" to reflect that Liz is not a willing participant here, on all other routes (including "Happy", which is basically a failed Lovers run) she will have sex with Matt willingly sooner or later, so raising the counter seems appropriate. If you see the counter rise, you're not on the Lovers path anymore - you can also always just save if you're not sure after a particular choice, the files tell you instantly what path you're on.
 
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If you manage to stay on the Lover's path, the counter will remain at "0" to reflect that Liz is not a willing participant here, on all other routes (including "Happy", which is basically a failed Lovers run) she will have sex with Matt willingly sooner or later, so raising the counter seems appropriate. If you see the counter rise, you're not on the Lovers path anymore - you can also always just save if you're not sure after a particular choice, the files tell you instantly what path you're on.
Not exactly. You still manage to keep lovers route at least "1" cheating count, but it should not be sex. Some of blowjob(s) that counts cheating won't kick you to happy path. I played last update yesterday and I did some experimental playthrough while doing many micro saves and still managed to keep "lovers" route with "1" cheating count.
 

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Any advice on how to get NTR High Will? What's the cutoff for having a high will? Like, 50% and above?

Also, does anyone know what the new Patreon post about Richard and Sam is talking about? Got me curious
Guide(first page show you how to have a high will)
high will don't have anal(yet) and diferent photos and chat logs
 

falk42

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Not exactly. You still manage to keep lovers route at least "1" cheating count, but it should not be sex. Some of blowjob(s) that counts cheating won't kick you to happy path. I played last update yesterday and I did some experimental playthrough while doing many micro saves and still managed to keep "lovers" route with "1" cheating count.
Interesting - I'd consider this a bug. Do you know which event exactly triggered the cheating counter to change?
 

Jiroah

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Thank you! Didn't know that triggered the counter, it's a bug in my eyes, should either kick down to Happy or keep the counter at zero.
Just a little reminder until not so long the bus blowjob was giving a point in cheating so i am not surprised if the others BJ give a point too...

And yes i don't find this "normal" in term of staying on Lovers.
 

falk42

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Just a little reminder until not so long the bus blowjob was giving a point in cheating so i am not surprised if the others BJ give a point too...

And yes i don't find this "normal" in term of staying on Lovers.
Yes, Nosy changed this retroactively, perhaps because it was unavoidable. Maybe he's ramping up the difficulty for a 100% "clean" Lover's run a bit, so maybe not exactly a bug, but imho it should be the definition of Lovers.
 
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Lashrack

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Yes, Nosy changed this retroactively, perhaps because it was unavoidable. Maybe he's ramping up the difficulty for a 100% "clean" Lover's run a bit, so maybe not exactly a bug, but imho it should be the definition of Lovers.
"clean" Cause BJ,HJ,TJ, AJ, and all the fingering,grops and even kissing are not cheat...hahahahahahah
Just vaginal sex is cheat... =)

NOSY PLS, NO ANAL SEX SAYING THAT IT'S NOT CHEAT...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
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Jiroah

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Any advice on how to get NTR High Will? What's the cutoff for having a high will? Like, 50% and above?
You are at 50% on the ntr path at the second sex scene without being able to do anything.

High will is 15% at 0.18 and 8% end 0.19 (which is high in comparison to low will where Liz submit completely, the stats app change and willpower is replaced with "???????")

Hints to achieve that:

- do a new run (one of the BJ was draining too much will and has been fixed)
- in the club go look after Liz and then get upset to prevent her from getting fucked by Matt
- after the camping trip avoid to have sex with Liz at all cost, it has a negative impact on her will
- if you choose to let her go shopping with sam (don't like her to be oogled, make her wear a normal dress, prevent her from drinking too much)
- university choose salary as pointers and let her stay with the students (if you don't she return to Matt place and get fucked)
- agree to see her mom
- on prankster day when Liz talk about a place she want to go with you choose "sounds good" (that give you a free point in will)

On a general note always be supportive to her, ask to meet her even if she refuse as long it don't lead to sex.
 
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falk42

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"clean" Cause BJ,HJ,TJ, AJ, and all the fingering,grops and even kissing are not cheat...hahahahahahah
Just vaginal sex is cheat... =)

NOSY PLS, NO ANAL SEX SAYING THAT IT'S NOT CHEAT...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
She is not willingly participating here though. I like the distinction and the challenge to prevent worse. Not sure how a completely pure Lover's path where nothing at all happens would have worked ...
 
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