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FenrirCAT

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So we are all here to collect pictures, as for whether the plot is believable or not .. . ..Who cares?! So I really can't understand why a non-essential plot can prevent a game from completing an update of less than 100MB in a month? How much of the 100MB update content can be attributed to program code?
 

monkeyqueen

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You can't have an NTR game without a willfully oblivious MC who can add 2+2 to make a living but can't figure out why his girlfriend has suspicious cream on her face. If any of these games were realistic, they'd be over in about 5 minutes.
real, no judgement, no shame question

sincerely trying to understand this fetish

does the denial make it hotter for you?

are scenes where the mc's ability to deny reality are sorely tested - like the cream on face scenes - hotter than the ones where the mc's ability to deny reality not as severely tested?

trying to test a theory that denial is the most important aspect of the fetish . . .
 

Fabitronix

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real, no judgement, no shame question

sincerely trying to understand this fetish

does the denial make it hotter for you?

are scenes where the mc's ability to deny reality are sorely tested - like the cream on face scenes - hotter than the ones where the mc's ability to deny reality not as severely tested?

trying to test a theory that denial is the most important aspect of the fetish . . .
So, just to be clear

You want a NTR GAME, that only shows the couple's day-to-day life, their dates, when they have sex, and the problems that exist in all relationships.

so that later, one day, the MC sees his partner's phone and discovers that she is being unfaithful, he confronted her and then black screen "Thanks for playing"??
Is that what you want?
No sex scenes, not thoughts of her, no sexual photos, nothing,
Do you just want to see what happens 85% of the time when someone discovers they're being cheated on?
 

monkeyqueen

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i am legitimately trying to understand this kink

i don't think you can understand it by asking for definitions

you either get 20 different answers with each ntr fan telling you that their interpretation is the right one

or a spreadsheet with 32 different types of NT-lmnopqrs

and i don't really like the NT labels because i don't speak japanese

cuck, swinger, bull, hotwife i understand - ntrs type c3 i don't

there are plenty of cuck games on here where the cuck knows what is going on

there's even a 'stag' variant where kink seems to be 'reclaiming' the wife who cheated

so the mc could become aware and the game could continue


obliviousness seems to be a variant of the kink

so i will re ask the question to you and promise to give a friendly, appreciate response

does the denial make it hotter for you?

are scenes where the mc's ability to deny reality are sorely tested - like the cream on face scenes - hotter than the ones where the mc's ability to deny reality not as severely tested?


again, i'm trying to see if there is something that unites all variants of the kink
 

Spartacul

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i am legitimately trying to understand this kink

i don't think you can understand it by asking for definitions

you either get 20 different answers with each ntr fan telling you that their interpretation is the right one

or a spreadsheet with 32 different types of NT-lmnopqrs

and i don't really like the NT labels because i don't speak japanese

cuck, swinger, bull, hotwife i understand - ntrs type c3 i don't

there are plenty of cuck games on here where the cuck knows what is going on

there's even a 'stag' variant where kink seems to be 'reclaiming' the wife who cheated

so the mc could become aware and the game could continue


obliviousness seems to be a variant of the kink

so i will re ask the question to you and promise to give a friendly, appreciate response

does the denial make it hotter for you?

are scenes where the mc's ability to deny reality are sorely tested - like the cream on face scenes - hotter than the ones where the mc's ability to deny reality not as severely tested?


again, i'm trying to see if there is something that unites all variants of the kink
Yes
 
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So, just to be clear

You want a NTR GAME, that only shows the couple's day-to-day life, their dates, when they have sex, and the problems that exist in all relationships.

so that later, one day, the MC sees his partner's phone and discovers that she is being unfaithful, he confronted her and then black screen "Thanks for playing"??
Is that what you want?
No sex scenes, not thoughts of her, no sexual photos, nothing,
Do you just want to see what happens 85% of the time when someone discovers they're being cheated on?

What I would want is...

MC view only

Story development prior to the steal so that the characters are set in a situation where they show true emotion and care for each other. A good way to do this is to have the couple face some adversity before the story gets into the steal so that you have a good measure of their connection to each other.

Next the setup is the introduction of antagonist and it can go many ways as to why the FC begins to corrupt (blackmail, couple gets into some issues between each other and it leaves an opening, or the FC gets pushed hard by the antagonist in a way that begins to slowly corrupt her, the approach to this is can be numerous).

Now the corruption. This is the part where the FC begins to stray. The MC starts to notice odd things (inconsistencies, gas lighting, changes in behavior, clothing, routine). This is where "close calls" and various other things can be introduced to the MC that are reasonable (MC is intelligent and perceptive, so the situations must be reasonable, not moronic "I see nothing" scenarios). You can implement false positives (ie MC thinks something is up, investigates and finds out it wasn't what he thought) as well as clever situations where the suspicion builds, but the MC is unable to catch the FC in a way that can solidify his suspicion, again... intelligent, reasoned, not idiotic.

Corruption complete. FC has fallen, is stolen, but is still using the MC for various fall backs (money, amusment, etc...). The FC behavior gets worse, cocky and demeaning, even hateful (she has already fallen out of love, now the MC is just a cuck toy she and the antagonist joke about and play games of risk to humiliate him behind his back).

This leads to the MC eventually finding out in stages where his suspicion is realized and it can be a lead up of confirming situations (text messages, pictures confirming, video, or even obvious to the MC close calls by the FC). At this point, the MC can either learn about it before the FC knows the MC is aware, or it can be a apex surprise where the MC finds out first person (ie catches them straight in act).

Then you have the resolution stage. Which will depend on how the MC finds out. If it is prior to the FC knowing, the MC could plan for a clever revenge using the ignorance of the FC/Antagonist as a means to trap/surprise/etc... them, or it could be an after process of the FC being caught and knowing the MC knows to which a revenge plan happens, or maybe it is just the MC kicks her out and moves on. There are lots of resolutions at this point that can occur depending on how the story unfolds.

Last is the after effect. What happened to the MC, the FC, and the antagonist. Was it a sad cuck ending (MC is dumped, cries and goes off into depression, etc...), does the MC find someone else, did the MC do revenge and what happened to the FC/antagonist, did they suffer any consequences, etc....

This would be a full cycle Netorare, all from the MCs view. Sex scenes would be limited to things like pictures, video and live reveals upon discovery (which could include humiliation, unwanted cucking, etc...) that leads to an ending of resolution and after effect.

Anyway, this is the sort of "NTR" story I like to read though it directly conflicts with those seeking the alternate view, or FC/Antagonist angle because their enjoyment is seeing the MC be used as a prop for the sex scenes.
 
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Spartacul

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What I would want is...

MC view only

Story development prior to the steal so that the characters are set in a situation where they show true emotion and care for each other. A good way to do this is to have the couple face some adversity before the story gets into the steal so that you have a good measure of their connection to each other.

Next the setup is the introduction of antagonist and it can go many ways as to why the FC begins to corrupt (blackmail, couple gets into some issues between each other and it leaves an opening, or the FC gets pushed hard by the antagonist in a way that begins to slowly corrupt her, the approach to this is can be numerous).

Now the corruption. This is the part where the FC begins to stray. The MC starts to notice odd things (inconsistencies, gas lighting, changes in behavior, clothing, routine). This is where "close calls" and various other things can be introduced to the MC that are reasonable (MC is intelligent and perceptive, so the situations must be reasonable, not moronic "I see nothing" scenarios). You can implement false positives (ie MC thinks something is up, investigates and finds out it wasn't what he thought) as well as clever situations where the suspicion builds, but the MC is unable to catch the FC in a way that can solidify his suspicion, again... intelligent, reasoned, not idiotic.

Corruption complete. FC has fallen, is stolen, but is still using the MC for various fall backs (money, amusment, etc...). The FC behavior gets worse, cocky and demeaning, even hateful (she has already fallen out of love, now the MC is just a cuck toy she and the antagonist joke about and play games of risk to humiliate him behind his back).

This leads to the MC eventually finding out in stages where his suspicion is realized and it can be a lead up of confirming situations (text messages, pictures confirming, video, or even obvious to the MC close calls by the FC). At this point, the MC can either learn about it before the FC knows the MC is aware, or it can be a apex surprise where the MC finds out first person (ie catches them straight in act).

Then you have the resolution stage. Which will depend on how the MC finds out. If it is prior to the FC knowing, the MC could plan for a clever revenge using the ignorance of the FC/Antagonist as a means to trap/surprise/etc... them, or it could be an after process of the FC being caught and knowing the MC knows to which a revenge plan happens, or maybe it is just the MC kicks her out and moves on. There are lots of resolutions at this point that can occur depending on how the story unfolds.

Last is the after effect. What happened to the MC, the FC, and the antagonist. Was it a sad cuck ending (MC is dumped, cries and goes off into depression, etc...), does the MC find someone else, did the MC do revenge and what happened to the FC/antagonist, did they suffer any consequences, etc....

This would be a full cycle Netorare, all from the MCs view. Sex scenes would be limited to things like pictures, video and live reveals upon discovery (which could include humiliation, unwanted cucking, etc...) that leads to an ending of resolution and after effect.

Anyway, this is the sort of "NTR" story I like to read though it directly conflicts with those seeking the alternate view, or FC/Antagonist angle because their enjoyment is seeing the MC be used as a prop for the sex scenes.
You almost described "The Edge of" , an old VN NTR game but pretty cool one
Maybe you already knew it
 

whitemage88

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real, no judgement, no shame question

sincerely trying to understand this fetish

does the denial make it hotter for you?

are scenes where the mc's ability to deny reality are sorely tested - like the cream on face scenes - hotter than the ones where the mc's ability to deny reality not as severely tested?

trying to test a theory that denial is the most important aspect of the fetish . . .
I can only speak for myself here of course, but no, the denial doesn't make it any better, it just makes the entire situation worthy of being entertained in the first place. If the MC finds out about Mat, unless you opt for a NTRS path, there's no reason for him to be okay with it, forcing a potential game end unless you pull out some stupid PLOT nonsense; "Yeah babe, I'm not cool with this but your sick mom needs the money for hospital bills, go ahead and fuck your boss I guess :( "
(Also if she was cool with NTRS in the first place, then there's not really much room to corrupt her, she's already half-way there).

For me, NTR is about the corruption aspect (which is why my preferred genre is corruption rather than NTR, as there are other avenues for it). It's one reason why most NTR tends to be fat ugly bastard or big dick player (who initially gets on her nerves), or even blackmail: the sexual enjoyment slowly overcomes her prior inhibitions.
Ex: Tomboy childhood-friend gf-turned-wife who loves her husband, and doesn't want to hurt him, and uses that to justify her not telling him about the cheating or that none of the kids are his > Woman likes the D so much she leaves bf for the D. One is just pure lust, one is lust corrupting love.

You kind of have to take a sort of omniscient view of it.
It's a separation of roles. "You" (the MC) don't know what's going, while "you" (the player) do.

Which is why my favorite aspect of NTR mobile so far is the "Yes, I like lewd photos, take more and post more please~".
The MC uses his "love" in a slightly manipulative way to erode more of her boundaries to the point where she posts lewder and lewder pics on her instagram to the detriment of her public reputation: The MC being the source of her fall (with help of nanobots), rather than Mat.
 
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monkeyqueen

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The MC being the source of her fall (with help of nanobots), rather than Mat.
thank you! and thanks to Fabitronix for answering

hope to get more answers

your post supports one of my ideas about denial being common thread among NT enjoyers

in many stories the cuck mc is actually a dom in denial

the cuck wants to see his pure innocent wife corrupted, wants to see her have degrading and demeaning sex

but he still wants to think of himself as the good guy

the bull gets to be evil one that does things to the innocent wife while the good guy is 'forced' to endure it

so the good guy needs to find some way to convince the wife that she really craves demeaning sex

in this game the anonymous fem-dom character that is controlling matt is a stand in for the fantasies of the player

(probabaly ishanti)

she - not the mc - wants everyone to be transformed into mindless drones that only think about sex and don't care about intimacy
 

mephistobr

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You're thinking way too deep into this bro. The denial is just a plot device for us (the players) to see porn. That is all. Maybe a few subset of people have that kink, which is fine, but it's not common at all.
 

C0D3L057

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I think I played it, I can't remember. HC games tend to focus heavily on cucking/humiliation (Netorare from a netori mindset) so I don't care for those too much.
I just wanted to mention that HC games are just pure NTR Slop. The art and sfx are peak, sometimes, but since his NTR tends to rely heavily on porn logic, if you don't turn off your brain and try to use it as something more than ‘gooning material’, you're going to get pissed off at how real bad they are narratively.


PS: This was a bit off topic, but I felt I had to say it. I apologise if this interruption has annoyed anyone.
 
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You're thinking way too deep into this bro. The denial is just a plot device for us (the players) to see porn. That is all. Maybe a few subset of people have that kink, which is fine, but it's not common at all.
That's fine if that is what you are looking for (to see porn), but I prefer more the emotional story of the betrayal. I know it sounds "odd" to hear on a site like this, but I don't really care for all the sex stuff. In fact, I only happened upon these types of stories/games out of curiosity and ended up running across the netorare genre to which I lucked out on playing a couple more "story" focused ones with a nice full progression of the netorare.

I would be happy with just a basic netorare story of love/loss/resolution if it weren't a "porn" story at all, but to be fair the sexually explicit content I think is needed for shock value in some stories, so I guess that is why you are unlikely to find a good netorare story outside of porn. There are a few here and there that serve that specific means, but they are drowned out by a lot of the types you are describing and it is difficult to tell exactly what the story is going to produce in many cases until you play it.
 
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I just wanted to mention that HC games are just pure NTR Slop. The art and sfx are peak, sometimes, but since his NTR tends to rely heavily on porn logic, if you don't turn off your brain and try to use it as something more than ‘gooning material’, you're going to get pissed off at how real bad they are narratively.


PS: This was a bit off topic, but I felt I had to say it. I apologise if this interruption has annoyed anyone.
Yeah, I really don't care for HC games because of that, it is especially disturbing if you play them sympathizing with the MC position.

One of my favorites is "Turn the Page", but only in that it follows a nice slow burn netorare reveal. I absolutely did not care for its endings (demoralizing), but over all it was a good progression. If it would have had some revenge paths put into it, I think it would have been a solid game.
 
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You're thinking way too deep into this bro. The denial is just a plot device for us (the players) to see porn. That is all. Maybe a few subset of people have that kink, which is fine, but it's not common at all.
Don't bother, every fifteen to twenty page of this thread there's one like that. And it's always the same song and dance every time. The best thing to do is to ignore them otherwise they take anywhere between 3 to 7 page to finally go away xD

I'm sorta glad that I don't bother with the thread anymore, 'cause coming back in to see a couple of page of this certainly didn't make me want to come back xD
 

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real, no judgement, no shame question

sincerely trying to understand this fetish

does the denial make it hotter for you?

are scenes where the mc's ability to deny reality are sorely tested - like the cream on face scenes - hotter than the ones where the mc's ability to deny reality not as severely tested?

trying to test a theory that denial is the most important aspect of the fetish . . .
No, I like the cheating aspect of the FMC and the corruption she goes through to further the progress of NTR in the game. I don't put myself in the Male MCs place or think "this is what I want out of my relationship in real life but will never get". I enjoy it for what it is, a game. Though I do find it exciting at times where the MC sees a character being sexual, aroused, or used and he doesn't know it's his SO, but more about the corruption and hidden sex aspect of the scene.

I'm not the best one to ask about a denial fetish as it's not one of mine.
 
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monkeyqueen

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thanks KingsRaiden and everyone who answered!

so we have two people making it clear that if the secrecy stops the game gets less hot

a few others saying if the secrecy stops the game has to end

getting a clearer picture now
 

monkeyqueen

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Don't bother, every fifteen to twenty page of this thread there's one like that. And it's always the same song and dance every time. The best thing to do is to ignore them otherwise they take anywhere between 3 to 7 page to finally go away xD

I'm sorta glad that I don't bother with the thread anymore, 'cause coming back in to see a couple of page of this certainly didn't make me want to come back xD
the funny thing is that if i had gotten the response i expected i probably wouldn't have become interested


i expected: "porn logic right :ROFLMAO: mc gets award for dumbest protag in history of porn"

instead got "why are you criticizing game" "not this again!" "don't you know that on discord the dev said something that completely contradicts what the text of the game says" "this is just what ntr games are like" "don't think about plot just, pics"

so i thought "wow, i touched a nerve - what nerve did i touch"?

and i just like to understand sexual fetishes
 
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