Isn't it a little disappointing that the ""feature"" that took so much of the development time was just a chat log? I mean, really a chat log took so much time that the story didn't progress?
Well you try to see some logic in 1 a NTR/NTS/LOVER VN, 2 not every woman are the same because we all differ from how we raised, where we live and so on 3 Laura is probably written by a man (Nosyfellow). I'm only try to give somewhat logic possibilities of how some women are, and yes there are women that feel ashamed of what they do and wash themself, but still like it what happened, i'm just not one of them. And as much you men like sex, we women like sex too, unless they hardcore prude or have religious influences that see sex as bad and only for reproduction.
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There should be logic in everything. Otherwise it's poorly written...adn taht's really all im pointing out. Even well written fantasy world have logic...it's fantasy logic that they explain to you, but it's still logic. Writers have the free will to impose any rules they want on their literary world. But if a woman goes from feeling disgusted by a man whos abusing her to suddenly not being able to control herself just cause he kissed her one time...well that should be a route not called LOVERS. I'm not mad that it's in the game...I'm mad that he put it in the only route for people who aren't hardcore NTR fans. Women liking sex has nothing to do with this story...im well aware of how much women like sex...especially in their late 20s and thirties. But she's being abused by him...not fucking him. and for her to go from disgust when thinking about him to intense arousal jsut because of one kiss....that's just bad writing. It's sad too cause the writing up til now has been very engaging.
You should know that Humankind are the most unlogic creature on earth, each human is different have different wants and needs, have different visions, and what for you is truth is for another a lie. Also the body doesn't always agree with a healthy mind and betray eachother, then we have regions we live in they all inlogic with eachother. Even laws differ from region to region. Basicly people want Logic, perfection, order and so on, but actualy create chaos.
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As illogical as we all are...yes i agree, however i don't believe there is a woman on this planet who is going to go from INTENSE disgust toward the man sexually abusing her (i have to shower now just cause you touched me) to intense lust a few days later just cause he kissed her. I'm going to stop arguing with you though. We've interacted quite a bit in the past on other forums and we usually agree. I'm going to quit before you completely hate me.
That's were the body betrays the healthy mind, you don't tell me you never had a hardon seeing another sexy woman then your girlfriend. With women it all about touches that betray our body, in Laura's case Matt seems to be better at touching her then the MC does, the kiss was probably better then with the MC, that messes up ones mind, because the body wants to feel good, so even you love someone so deeply, but that person isn't as good as the other one, it makes the mind go crazy and the body desire the same attention. It hard to explain, but often you have to pleasure yourself when your body is hot and then the best experience of touches will come to mind.As illogical as we all are...yes i agree, however i don't believe there is a woman on this planet who is going to go from INTENSE disgust toward the man sexually abusing her (i have to shower now just cause you touched me) to intense lust a few days later just cause he kissed her. I'm going to stop arguing with you though. We've interacted quite a bit in the past on other forums and we usually agree. I'm going to quit before you completely hate me.
If Laura never wanted this to happen, she should have stand ground and not let him blackmail in the first place and not let him get the upperhand over her in the first place. But the moment she let him touch her, she kinda already messed herself up as her body liked it, but her mind didn't. Another thing Matt is a new manager, new managers don't have that much power to take away benefits from someone who already been in the company for some time and showed being a valuable member for the company, it HR and the CEO who has that power, not a lowby manager, but Laura was to stupid to fall in that trap.
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Yes he is sexually assaulting her, yes he is abusing her, yes he is blackmailing her, for every decent human being this is seen as bad, even by me it seen as bad, but that has nothing to do with how a body reacts, if her body likes it and it makes her horny, then the body force the mind to remember that incident. For a normal being that would be disgusted seeing that happen, and i'm sure Laura feels also disgusted and ashamed, the reason why she cleans herself, but if her body is still horny and hot that doesn't help.
That why I said, if she didn't let it happen from the start it would never came this far. Some people's bodies just get turned on by being hurt, being abused, why you have those people into BDSM, it not because your body don't like it, or your gf's body don't like it, that Laura's body shouldn't like it either. That why we all different, some like that handling, others don't.
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fine...i can agree with most of this, but there is no good ending to this story now. the path is dead because she's not gonna stop thinking about him. she'll likely start thinking about him when she's sleeping with the MC now too adn i don't know anyone on this path who wants to read about that. even if they end the blackmail it's not a good ending if she can't stop fantasizing about someone other than her boyfriend. Sounds more like the start to a cuckold route than the ending to a "lovers" path. As an NTS fan I'm ok with that, but i don't know how you end a lovers route by turning it into an NTS route and call it a good ending.
Edit: well, i guess she could stop thinking about him since it's just a story, but i don't know why dev would introduce this dynamic and then just abandon it. I fully expect her to think about Matt every time she masturbates now...and more than likely while she's fucking MC too. I don't know how that deserves to be titled "lovers" route...unless it was a fake all along and the lovers route is her completely cucking the MC and choosing Matt as her new lover...but that would cause a complete revolt.
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Do the old saves work? I feel like every update I need to restart the game. That really sucks
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there's a walkthrough that tells you how to unlock all the pictures.
https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-mobile-v0-17-0-nosyfellow.238597/post-16330853
I think Lovers path just has another branch added to it, so it will depend on MC to make no mistake at all and show Laura how much he loves her and gives her all the attention he can, come more often to her work and such for lunch, pick her up, finaly make work on getting her to live with him and so on. The lesser chances Matt has the better for MC, but if he makes one mistake he can lose her to Matt. It a bit the War of Love.
Only one I'm seeing hasn't been updated since V15, do you know of any updated one?
Are they the last Laura pictures? If so then you get them on the 100% lovers path.
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sure...but i don't want to spend the next however many updates reading chat between laura and matt and having her slowly admit that it turns her on...i don't want to read her nanobots telling me how much she's enjoying getting abused at work. When her physical body was reacting i was fine with it because mentally she hated it and didn't want to do it...but now she's going to start thinking how much she likes it too...This isn't where i thought this route was going, and i don't think very many of us who chose it are going to be happy with it.
Old saves work, but the new features added don't show for already seen content, so if want to see those need to start from fresh, but one feature seems to have a bug on NTR path from earlier comments i see.
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if you're talking about the chatlogs at the end it's bugged on all paths i think. You just have to save after purchasing it and shut the program down and restart it and it'll be there.
You can turn of the nanobots if like in the settings, if don't want to read that all, but yea that where the MC will have to step up and show he is even better then Matt. It a bit a twilight feeling, some people don't want their love having pleasure from another guy, and there guys that get turned on by it. But it seems to go that direction where Laura will enjoy both Matt and MC, but in the end will depend on who she spend most time with after work. Trust me I was also shocked by that turn point, but guys like Matt are like that, they don't want to be a fool on their fapapp and will do anything at their disposal to get where he wants to be. Laura is just a target for him and once he broke her complete and she no longer resist him, he will grow tired of her and throw her with the other women he abused and go for a new target. For him it a sort game to conquer and conquer.
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i don't want her getting these feelings from a complete and total asshat who deserves to be in prison. The only love war he should be in is which inmate is gonna take his anal virginity. I like sharing games...as long as the other partners are good people. If this is going to turn into us having to vie for her affections with this asshole i won't play it. The only reason i kept playing was for the satisfaction of ending his tyranny but i'm not going to put myself through emotional rollercoaster of a shitty love triangle with an asshole if that's where this is going. My past relationshiops with girls who have dealt with blackmail/coercion won't let me continue if it seems like I'm not gonna get to shove a hot poker up his ass for this...and even if i do get to do that in the end...i'm not sure i can handle a story where i'm reading about her lusting after her abuser for more than an update or two. Why couldn't we have gotten a path where she continues to hate him and we get to save her...that's all i wanted. That's honestly where i thought this path was going...but i guess i should have known better from an NTR game.
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For those 2 pictures you need be on the lovers path and ask her to come to your home after work and they appear normaly in your gallery, it 2 sex pictures she has with MC.