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[anonsuit]

Recently I was lamenting how I cant really enjoy ntr hentai manga since it just doesnt have a proper setup. Then I wondered if there actually are any longer stories, that start out non-ntr to set it up and then devolve into ntr?

The only one that came to mind was boku no yayoi san

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. There a cca first third of a pretty long story is devoted to setting up the relationship.

I guess maybe Pornhwas do it? It just seems that hentai jumps into it so fast.

Bumping this as I am looking for stuff similar to this too.

Would recommend the classic Tachibana-san

what is a popper setup? you mean a slow burn? because to me a woman getting picked up on the beach by some hooligans is a proper setup.

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there is in English somewhere

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he has a good mix of slow enough while putting content fast enough.

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this is a series

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another series form the same author

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these are the ones that i got on favorites that I remember being slow burn. some more some less.
if they do not appear in e-hentai they should appear in Exhentai where i pulled the links from.

 

[HangoverDog]

really? I like original endings, I understand it is a bit of a lame ending, but I mean the character was chasing her for a long time. it is weird sure but at least it is different.

50 shades of grey, but grey is a brokeass ugly basketball smalltimer that cannot do simple calculus or linear algebra.

I mean I would use a dildo instead of that whiteboi. And felix is the most insufferable piece of a man, well deserved to be left by sophie, always work and work, imagine wage-cucking in a small unnamed college. I would hypergamble my life with Kelly Criterion's instead, that seems more +ev.

This is one of the most non sensical vn ever created, idk how you decided to like that. Our chinese counterpart forum infamously called it the toothpaste-squeezing game.

 

[Sayasaya111]

bekkou kansoku, artist who drew very simple NTR, but long (more actions)— I love it so much.

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is my favorite.

 

[anonsuit]

50 shades of grey, but grey is a brokeass ugly basketball smalltimer that cannot do simple calculus or linear algebra.

I mean I would use a dildo instead of that whiteboi. And felix is the most insufferable piece of a man, well deserved to be left by sophie, always work and work, imagine wage-cucking in a small unnamed college. I would hypergamble my life with Kelly Criterion's instead, that seems more +ev.

This is one of the most non sensical vn ever created, idk how you decided to like that. Our chinese counterpart forum infamously called it the toothpaste-squeezing game.

I did not say it was good, just that it was not bad, I would honestly would prefer 100 shit endings from people wiling to take risks. doing something new, than follow established story patterns.

if we are arguing about the characters. she is an independent woman she earns money, the white-boy is a sport prospect the school literally bend rules to keep him playing basket ball what makes you think he will at least not make good money once he graduates?
the most nonsensical thing here is that this whiteboy chose to remain loyal instead of fucking groupies everywhere after graduating. but as I said, I would take this marriage ending that actually surprises me than the predictable pump and dump.

and Felix, Felix is not even a character in that game. nothing he does is interesting, he is just a passive watcher throughout the whole game.

I did not say it was the best, just that I liked the ending because it was different. going back to the initial post that I was quoting, I do not mind if the antagonist ends up falling in love with the girl.

 

[HangoverDog]

I did not say it was good, just that it was not bad, I would honestly would prefer 100 shit endings from people wiling to take risks. doing something new, than follow established story patterns.

if we are arguing about the characters. she is an independent woman she earns money, the white-boy is a sport prospect the school literally bend rules to keep him playing basket ball what makes you think he will at least not make good money once he graduates?
the most nonsensical thing here is that this whiteboy chose to remain loyal instead of fucking groupies everywhere after graduating. but as I said, I would take this marriage ending that actually surprises me than the predictable pump and dump.

and Felix, Felix is not even a character in that game. nothing he does is interesting, he is just a passive watcher throughout the whole game.

I did not say it was the best, just that I liked the ending because it was different. going back to the initial post that I was quoting, I do not mind if the antagonist ends up falling in love with the girl.

I mean yeah, I agree sophie part is not the most nonlogical thing.

Felix is just so bad that it's almost non ntr for me, the two is just not a good couple to begin with lol. Zach is inconsistent with how he was developed lol.

But I mean if you think a girl falling in love with a bull is fresh and not pump and dump, well maybe read more stories. That's a feminine fantasy.

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As expected since furoshitty from Azienda turns out to be gay.

 

[melantha]

Question what's everyone least favorite NTR games and tropes?

- Huge unrealistic bust size. Breasts bigger than her head. Unfortunately, the NTR industry is plagued with this.

- Moms, mother figures, aunts. Sorry guys, this is not NTR. your mom is supposed to have had sex before, to have you. Your head came out of there, now you wanna go back in?

- Complicated mechanics (nebel - fmc is extremely attractive and scenes are very hot NTR, but damn the game is punishing. i remember not getting anything at all, then one day i just see them taking a bath together out of nowhere. the pitfall where it is flexible, but mileage per player varies alot)

- The Grind. to be fair, i dont mind grind that much, but there are games out there

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. Especially RPGM ones where you move through the map, same path over and over again every in-game day (i dont mind if it's for "searching" for the fmc).

- RPGM combat, unless it has clothing damage or groping. I really love something the potential in

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. but when I see RPGM combat with no sprites, and it only exists for combat, i literally closed the last game i saw that in, no questions asked.

my qualms are meta though. other than those i'm not too picky with the NTR approach. type A, B, C, who the bull is, fmc's corruption, number of partners, or whatnot. as long as fmc gets to have sex with another man i'm good.

but i want to hear more about your dislikes guys. it helps keeping notes and checklist what to avoid when making games

 

[EnTeeArrr]

Question what's everyone least favorite NTR games and tropes?

Any time there is more than one bull/antagonist the game drops a peg for me, jealousy is so much better when he is getting multiple girls I know. And if there is multiple bull/antagonist's on one girl and even worse sharing its nearly dead, they all cucks at that point.

MC getting any sex is also a huge turn off, especially firsts like first raw.

 

[Kulman]

what is a popper setup? you mean a slow burn? because to me a woman getting picked up on the beach by some hooligans is a proper setup.

By proper setup I mean a long enough vanilla story so that the relationships get established and the ntr has power as a result.

A single frame telling me this is her husband and in 2 frames shes fucking someone else, well thats pretty plain.

 

[crnisl]

but I did finish

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a great VN, it does not have porn though.

Yes, one of my first vns as well. Anyway, as for drama...

I guess maybe Pornhwas do it? It just seems that hentai jumps into it so fast.
By proper setup I mean a long enough vanilla story so that the relationships get established and the ntr has power as a result.
A single frame telling me this is her husband and in 2 frames shes fucking someone else, well thats pretty plain.

Bumping this as I am looking for stuff similar to this too.
Would recommend the classic Tachibana-san

As for pornhwa, I can recall a couple of very dramatic ones, more or less fitting.

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  a long and very messed-up story with super-toxic characters and relationships
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  Anyway, real things do start quite far away in the story, not from the very beginning.

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  MC and the younger sis of his wife are getting an ill mutual attraction, then we get some ntr-things with both women

As for doujinshi, I recall, for example

• [Spermation (Tukamori Syuuji)] Himitsu series, starts with sisntr, then blackmail-rape-ntr

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[chickenten]

- Anything NTR Type B: Blackmail, rape
- Hypnosis or lewd marks
- No buildup to sex scenes
- Ugly bastards, Old mummified dudes, shotas
- FMCs with max size zero gravity tits and butts
- Grindy combat
- Too many girls and/or antagonists
- MTL Poetry
- Repeating tasks with little reward (like going back and forth to work 20 days in a row)
- Bad art

oh, i just found out.
MTL Poetry ? ah.. i know that feel..
Repeating tasks ? yeah... boring..
but, what problem with Ughly Bastards ? old Mummified dudes ? Shotas ? Blackmail and Rape ?
can u explain to me ?
i just want to know your perspective

 

[pickycollector]

hey guys can you recommend me threads of best upcoming ntr games this year or games which are old and are yet to be translated or in general games whixh you are waiting to be translated ( i perfer both VN and RPGM)

 

[Dromedari]

One thing that bothers me is the lack of interaction between women in NTR works, meaning they fail the Bechdel test, with most of the interactions being between the man and the FMC, forgetting all of the other women.

This bothers me a lot in works set in rural villages with strange customs or cults. It would be nice to see conversations between the different women, like a grandmother telling her granddaughter about the importance of participating in the ritual or the village women making lewd comments and justifying the tradition.

I think the best example of this problem is Arrival of the Goddess, where the protagonist doesn't interact at all with the other women in the village, which would have led to interesting situations.

At the other extreme is Our Red String, which shows that women can also be corrupting forces.

 

[hilih--]

About hypnosis / mind control - straightforward usage is completely boring and bad, but it can be good if used with creativity:
[Nitoowa] Yuri & Claire (but it has other problems like gigantic breasts)

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(manga, man is hypnotized one, not FMC)

 

[crnisl]

One thing that bothers me is the lack of interaction between women in NTR works, meaning they fail the Bechdel test, with most of the interactions being between the man and the FMC, forgetting all of the other women.

Well, I really like both female helper trope, and just pro-active females who are a corrupting force themselves.

A couple of comics with good art I thoroughly enjoyed

• [Cyclone] Midareuchi
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  a female rival of FMC (rival in tennis, not in love) puts her into a blackmail-rape-ntr loop. It even has hentai anime:
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  a korean girl is getting involved into all the kinds of BBC by her american blonde girlfriend

Some other fun works with such pro-active female corruptors.

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  to claim MC for herself, a girl manipulates his sis and female childhood friend into an "orgy club" behind his back
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  MC starts with a mother of his gf, but then another girl is entering the story - to blackmail-ntr the mother-daughter duo
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  2 girls, who each have a boyfriend but they secretly cheat with each other, etc.

As for games

• Star Knightess Aura we are playing both fantasy-isekai FMC, and her female frenemy doing the brainwashing inside FMC's mind
• Alansya Chronicles: Fleeting Iris the route of FMC's evil sister, who's blackmailing and pimping her
• Seeds of Chaos the demoness has lots of quite hot scenes with MC's wife

 

[critic specialized in NTR]

Don't get me wrong, but with each passing day, this whole issue of BNWO, BLM, BBC and things like that, just makes me wonder how broken the mind of the North American is, with all due respect, I say this because it is a fucked up thing, and it is constantly being related to the cuckold theme and used in NTR games. I wonder, to what extent can the human mind self-destruct? I really like NTR, especially the classics like Hero Boy Ken, but I would say that this BBC wave is shit for both the NTR genre with extremely generic and uncreative games and themes, and how this seems to be such a rotten thing in the real world, remembering that this BNWO theme is idealized precisely by white people, which is funny, so the ones with the broken mind are the white North American, in theory, the progressive class? Just addressing a topic here that is related to cuckold and NTR.

 

[Dodz1984]

Don't get me wrong, but with each passing day, this whole issue of BNWO, BLM, BBC and things like that, just makes me wonder how broken the mind of the North American is, with all due respect, I say this because it is a fucked up thing, and it is constantly being related to the cuckold theme and used in NTR games. I wonder, to what extent can the human mind self-destruct? I really like NTR, especially the classics like Hero Boy Ken, but I would say that this BBC wave is shit for both the NTR genre with extremely generic and uncreative games and themes, and how this seems to be such a rotten thing in the real world, remembering that this BNWO theme is idealized precisely by white people, which is funny, so the ones with the broken mind are the white North American, in theory, the progressive class? Just addressing a topic here that is related to cuckold and NTR.

I think the progressive class in its majority can clearly see the undeniable problem within this whole BNWO crazyness and how it is deeply rooted on white males racism and misoginy. People who understand theirselves and where their fetishes come from understand that this is a case of white people fetishizing their racist beliefs.

 

[monsterartisan]

Don't get me wrong, but with each passing day, this whole issue of BNWO, BLM, BBC and things like that, just makes me wonder how broken the mind of the North American is, with all due respect, I say this because it is a fucked up thing, and it is constantly being related to the cuckold theme and used in NTR games. I wonder, to what extent can the human mind self-destruct? I really like NTR, especially the classics like Hero Boy Ken, but I would say that this BBC wave is shit for both the NTR genre with extremely generic and uncreative games and themes, and how this seems to be such a rotten thing in the real world, remembering that this BNWO theme is idealized precisely by white people, which is funny, so the ones with the broken mind are the white North American, in theory, the progressive class? Just addressing a topic here that is related to cuckold and NTR.

BBC is something that I also actively avoid. The whole thing just feels weird. This is coming from someone that don't mind UB as long as they are eyeless... lol.

 

[Captain Oblivious]

oh, i just found out.
MTL Poetry ? ah.. i know that feel..
Repeating tasks ? yeah... boring..
but, what problem with Ughly Bastards ? old Mummified dudes ? Shotas ? Blackmail and Rape ?
can u explain to me ?
i just want to know your perspective

Just personal preference.
- Ugly/old/shotas makes it feel like something is wrong with the fmc. The bull/antagonist, imo, should be someone that could evoke jealousy or be realistically attractive to women. There are some exceptions though, like if the antagonist has more average face but is physically fit, or if its and older man thats more attractive/physically fit. Younger guys could work if the protagonist and fmc is also younger/same age teenagers.
- I don't like blackmail, rape and sexual harassment in NTR. I like women who act naughty and slutty and of their own volition. For me that is the point of NTR. Women who are victims of the antagonist, and then come to enjoy this in time because of big dick is more aligned to a maledom fetish and just not my thing at all. But at the same time its not good if the woman becomes a total slut on the level of a protitute (like in Soraue games). At that moment the NTR becomes a bit pointless.
- In the end its just personal preference, though. I can still enjoy some NTR that has some elements I dislike, as long as it has more elements I do like. I still haven't come across NTR that is 100% my taste.

 

[toxicduo]

As for pornhwa, I can recall a couple of very dramatic ones, more or less fitting.

These were decent but old problem is there just aren't any Ntr pornwha's around now, they've all been reduced to swinging or netorase or the MC is fucking everything, then the ones where everyone is fucking everyone unfortunately most of these guys would rather do that then face the backlash they've received before for making a ntr pornwha, honestly i think the only reason queen bee didn't get so much hate was of its dark nature in general like it was expected to happen, also mc in that one was set up to get revenge.

 

[NiktoAzure]

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New demo, hero?