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[oklololol]

The lockpick success is always 100%, it's the break chance that is affected by the skills. So long as you don't put levels on it then it's fine.

There are several cheat tools in this forums. MTool and RPGM cheat tool. You can search for these if you want.
It is a bit of trial and error as it can be finnicky. I tried to edit the bool flags with Atelle meetings flags but it bugs out the game when I do that.

I did trial and error on forcing meet ups so the attempts happen faster than it should. I forgot which one is which(as even the variables are in Japanese, so I had to MTL the variables). There is a variable that has something to do with how many meetups happen(the max might be 2-3. it's still janky so I don't know if that actually does anything) and the chances of it happening(per day). I can't remember specifically so you might need to do trial and error yourself. I also messed with meet up chance (per bully) and locked it. So even if I successfully interrupt the bullies, the chances doesn't go down.

My self imposed rules are:
-Can only do jobs at night(morning if you want it to be harder as you get less money during daytime)
-Cannot sell trash
-No levels on lockpick and money
-Edited the test requirements by +50/100 (up to you with how much you want it)
-Forced meetups during 1st week via cheat tools

Maybe others that are more knowledgeable with RPGM jank can enlighten us with better ways to edit in-game stuff. Some things cannot be edited like the date. It would be easier to manipulate things if we could roll back the date but the game just won't let me edit it.

Hey! I've tried this game a couple years ago but quickly dropped it because the translation was atrocious at the time. Your rules actually makes me want to give a second chance to this game but I have a question, how many forced meetups do you recommend 1st week? All the characters? Only one? I don't know if forcing multiple meetups would break the game

 

[zebucetiva]

I'm a little late for discussion, but NTRPG2 isn't good just because of nostalgia. Apart from NTR aspect, Hanataka was a master in rpgm worldbuilding.

Spoiler: Check this as example

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Look how he created this scene. The entire room was build for the player only to see that passage between kitchen and front room. No blackscree to transition, no close-up.

Spoiler: And then the game let you satisfy your curiosity

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Bam, the scene flows naturally. You progress and Hanataka play with you again, the game calls you again to talk to grandma and you have no choice...in the meantime you wonder what is going to happen next.

Spoiler: And that happened

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I can give you other examples how Hanataka tease the player just like that in the whole game. He not only create a NTR masterpiece, he created a RPGM masterpiece. That's one of the reasons NTRPG2 is unmatchable... scenes, soundtracks, sprites... Fucking beautiful

 

[monsterartisan]

Hey! I've tried this game a couple years ago but quickly dropped it because the translation was atrocious at the time. Your rules actually makes me want to give a second chance to this game but I have a question, how many forced meetups do you recommend 1st week? All the characters? Only one? I don't know if forcing multiple meetups would break the game

I can't exactly remember specifics because I have not done this in a long while. I THINK the game will always try to set up every bully. As in the premise why they want to mess with the female lead. It's just that the game is very slow on doing so, that's why turning up the chance for events accelerates everything.

I can't remember if you can do it for 1 or few candidates.

Note that I am not hard forcing meetups via flags, I am forcing it via chances. Guaranteeing a meetup per day. IIRC the game breaks when you mess with meetup switches.

 

[Lupiscanis]

Hello fellow NTR enthusiasts! I think I posted here before but that is neither here or there.

I was discussing a topic with a H developer with regards to why we enjoy the corruption/NTR factor of hentai games so much. It lead to a particular crossroads of sorts regarding which path is more enjoyable when it comes to the pleasure we get when seeing the knife twisting in a relationship.

So in another words which instance do you guys prefer in a NTR;

Do you like it when the female is a virgin and pledges to lose it to their lover....but the corruptor manages to seize the honey first? And even when the female swears off the corrupter and haves sex with the lover....it just can't compare and it leads to a boiling point of unsatisfaction until she gives in and has sex with the villain and submits her 'body' to him?

Or do you prefer if the female is already sexual with her lover but after being teased forever/given an ultimatum by the villain has sex with them and then realizes that sex with her lover was always mediocre and falls from there?

Sorry if this isn't worded properly but I hope I got the point across!

It depends on the story mostly, but I'm fine with either, with some caveats.

I don't personally like it if a large portion of the game is dedicated to the love interest having sex with the protagonist unless the sex is clearly unfulfilling and done in order to, for instance (doesn't have to be this specifically) hide the fact that the love interest is having sex with someone else (a clear reason for this would be games with pregnancy mechanics where the female LI has sex with the protag to hide the fact that the child isn't his, as tropey as that is).

I don't mind about virginity in the slightest as I think it's a frankly absurd concept to worry about, although I know a lot of people enjoy the defloration aspect in games etc. I don't care if it's there, I don't care if it isn't - the one exception is that some games have a desire to put in an excessive amount of blood during 'defloration scenes' and this is too unrealistic for me and offputting. I realise sex is messy, but lots of blood does nothing for me and is nothing more than a trope in most cases (some blood isn't uncommon during first sex encounters when young, but if she's had her period or been active at all, a considerable amount is unlikely).

None of this is meant to belittle those who do like these things.

 

[DicksInSpace]

I'm a little late for discussion, but NTRPG2 isn't good just because of nostalgia. Apart from NTR aspect, Hanataka was a master in rpgm worldbuilding.

Spoiler: Check this as example

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Look how he created this scene. The entire room was build for the player only to see that passage between kitchen and front room. No blackscree to transition, no close-up.

Spoiler: And then the game let you satisfy your curiosity

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Bam, the scene flows naturally. You progress and Hanataka play with you again, the game calls you again to talk to grandma and you have no choice...in the meantime you wonder what is going to happen next.

Spoiler: And that happened

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I can give you other examples how Hanataka tease the player just like that in the whole game. He not only create a NTR masterpiece, he created a RPGM masterpiece. That's one of the reasons NTRPG2 is unmatchable... scenes, soundtracks, sprites... Fucking beautiful

2 questions. Is it all sprite based and is it clueless NTR or Netorase/forcing MC to watch?

 

[oklololol]

I can't exactly remember specifics because I have not done this in a long while. I THINK the game will always try to set up every bully. As in the premise why they want to mess with the female lead. It's just that the game is very slow on doing so, that's why turning up the chance for events accelerates everything.

I can't remember if you can do it for 1 or few candidates.

Note that I am not hard forcing meetups via flags, I am forcing it via chances. Guaranteeing a meetup per day. IIRC the game breaks when you mess with meetup switches.

I see thanks! I'll try it out later today

 

[watergeus]

Any good chastity (+ NTR/cuckolding) games around nowadays?

 

[Leonard75]

Hi @DicksInSpace what is your gif in signature ? is that a game ?

 

[ankraless]

Hi @DicksInSpace what is your gif in signature ? is that a game ?

yes here this is the game

 

[DicksInSpace]

yes here this is the game

Correct, left image is part 1. Right image is part 2

 

[XDzanderXD]

Guys, any heroes who have the full video from Waifu punisher, highschool of the dead part 2 Rei NTR?

 

[NTR unavoidable!]

Guys, any heroes who have the full video from this creator?

Guys, any heroes who have the full video from Waifu punisher, highschool of the dead part 2 Rei?

Guys, any heroes who have the full video from Waifu punisher, highschool of the dead part 2 Rei NTR?

Someone is very excited.

 

[Knight6797]

So here’s the thing about avoidable NTR.
Knowing it’s avoidable kills the thrill entirely.
It’s like watching a horror movie and being told the cast survives.
Ruined.

So I don’t like the avoidable tag. But if I don’t put it in, I’ll have a bunch of peeps asking "is the NTR avoidable?"
And I get it. People don’t want to sink 40 hours into a NTR game and realize that every choice was bullshit in the end.

Well, hardcore NTR enthusiasts may be fine with it, but I would argue a silent majority of NTR fans prefer happy endings to exist. They may not fap to it, but they are satisfied knowing it exists. Like H-scenes in moeges.

So yeah, avoidable NTR tag.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Reason won out, and I figured the casual NTR player base (who don’t like forced ends) is much larger than the hardcore, despair-seeking NTR crowd.

I see that completely differently. Your movie example would fit into it if it were the case that the vanilla ending would be the "true ending" of sorts. But I see it differently. Avoidable NTR for me feels like I have the possibility to prevent a bad timeline but choose not to or am unable to or even fail to do so. The fact that everything bad happening to the MC was caused but his inaction or failure makes it alot more exciting for me. Unavoidable NTR is fine too from a storytelling perspective of course and it makes it easier for the dev to get a consistent story going.

All in all, both have their positives but I wouldn't really say avoidable NTR is bad at all.

 

[XDzanderXD]

Someone is very excited.

Haha, I thought I was being ignored. That's why I'm posting more than once XD

 

[NTR unavoidable!]

Haha, I thought I was being ignored. That's why I'm posting more than once XD

We see you.

But I would call him Cuck Punisher since waifus love it.

 

[XDzanderXD]

We see you.

But I would call him Cuck Punisher since waifus love it.

Thanks for at least responding :,), cuck punisher? And who is it?

 

[BlueAce]

Forgive me if this reply post ends up being giant but I got some insightful responses to go through! (And I will still edit this post some more) Let's see....

I'm probably in minority here but I skip all cuck sex. It doesn't bother me if it's in the games I play (much) but I'm not interested in it. It gives cucks pleasure I want them to be deprived of completely. Their micropenises and pe won't negate that pleasure.

Now to answer your question, in theory I prefer the 1st option but what usually happens is that alone is not a good enough reason for me to enjoy the game. Sometimes I like games that involve 2nd option because I'm able to enjoy their parts separately and they tick the rest of the boxes better. It depends on the overall package even tho I would prefer if bull snatched all the firsts including the kiss.

I understand why lots of people prefer 'established couples' who had sex and did everything couples usually do. It's more realistic, immersive and impactful later for them, also fits the cuckold definition better. For me things are different but like I said, it doesn't make or break ntr for me.

Funny enough I rock with you with regards to not engaging with the MC having sex with their FMC. If we're playing an NTR game we don't want to see the male victim have sex with the female. We wanna see the villain have fun with the female and reap the joy from that. Although sometimes, it's an amusing thought to see a scene where the MC tries some foreplay but is so clumsy and awkward that the FMC gets annoyed and frustrated.

I prefer the option to be open, like in Nebel Geisterjäger, where you can have both options. However, a bit of experience is also nice, as in Secret Dawn. What I like most is the slow inflection point, but also from a mystery perspective, for me that adds a lot of value, because you add your own imagination to the game, similar to what happens with some good books.

I agree that slow burn NTR games are some of the very best out there. Although I respect the desire to keep it open, I rather think that a focused narrative is better and enjoy it when the creator's intent and desires co-align with yours. That kind of wavelength with reader/author is quite the experience.

The former, by a lot.

>why we enjoy the corruption/NTR factor of hentai games so much

something like this:

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Hahaha! That's the term for that line of thinking huh? So in your case I assume you enjoy these NTRs just so you can say, to these fictional woman, 'you were a WHORE all along!'? Or something of the sort?

I think you see a lot of games fall into the 1st category because it's easier to emphasise the corruption of the FMC with her innocence being taken away; our current modern world favours virginity in women and experience in men. That being said, I would say that it definitely depends on the story surrounding these concepts.

The knife twisting feeling is experienced when you feel there is a genuine bond between the MC and FMC, and in that moment when the pledge is formed, the commitment from the FMC is the amplification of the betrayal when it's taken. Just a pledge alone is too bland(?) and doesn't emit any feeling to the MC, just a desire not to cheat within that relationship, like normal relationships are.

The second option I have seen a lot less, but that's because there is a proper need to build that bond with the MC, so a lot more resources are required to build that. However, I feel like in this instance the sex alone shouldn't be the FMC's only reason to pick the antagonist over MC; the sex is the initiator to that affair, and is usually deepened as the antagonists' hidden personality/character is revealed, leading to FMC to 'fall' for him.

Regardless, IMO in a vacuum, the first instance is easier and cheaper to convey that corruption vs the second, but the story around these concepts are easily as important to amplify/exaggerate that NTR feeling.

Thinking about it, I think I understand why I enjoy my former point more so than my latter point. It is much easier to produce a narrative when the couple are vanilla and innocent down to being sexless and then breaking them down at your discretion.

I prefer the first option because in NTR setting/paths, I'm not looking for a true love story. I'm looking for a story about a woman who naively throws it all (and by all, I mean all, including her firsts) away wither to protect her true love, or in the misguided search for better, only to ultimately find out she was nothing but a piece of meat to be used and tossed aside for fresh pickings when they get bored, which naturally means I prefer the Netori to be a virgin hunter.

I like it even more when the Netori is the obvious (from the omniscient viewpoint) bad choice: the fat bastard loser who can't get ahead without playing dirty, the sleazy playboy who's only looking for a naive pump and dump, the politician who's just exercising his power and influence, etc. If the Netori is doing it for love, it's already a turnoff for me.

Damn, you enjoy the vindictive part of it all! Although if it winds up being Netori doesn't really matter to me cause the overall downfall of the female, regardless if she gets stolen by someone else, is the thrill that keeps ya going!

It depends on the story mostly, but I'm fine with either, with some caveats.

I don't personally like it if a large portion of the game is dedicated to the love interest having sex with the protagonist unless the sex is clearly unfulfilling and done in order to, for instance (doesn't have to be this specifically) hide the fact that the love interest is having sex with someone else (a clear reason for this would be games with pregnancy mechanics where the female LI has sex with the protag to hide the fact that the child isn't his, as tropey as that is).

I don't mind about virginity in the slightest as I think it's a frankly absurd concept to worry about, although I know a lot of people enjoy the defloration aspect in games etc. I don't care if it's there, I don't care if it isn't - the one exception is that some games have a desire to put in an excessive amount of blood during 'defloration scenes' and this is too unrealistic for me and offputting. I realise sex is messy, but lots of blood does nothing for me and is nothing more than a trope in most cases (some blood isn't uncommon during first sex encounters when young, but if she's had her period or been active at all, a considerable amount is unlikely).

None of this is meant to belittle those who do like these things.

Too much blood is something I will agree with. Wanna know something that also common and too absurd, dare I say a copout trope that used to really drill in the corruption?

Too long dongs.

It may exist but I rarely if ever see a NTR villain where their penis is actually average/ain't large. Wouldn't it be a further twist in the knife if the villain has the same dick size as the MC but he uses it better?

 

[Lupiscanis]

Too much blood is something I will agree with. Wanna know something that also common and too absurd, dare I say a copout trope that used to really drill in the corruption?

Too long dongs.

It may exist but I rarely if ever see a NTR villain where their penis is actually average/ain't large. Wouldn't it be a further twist in the knife if the villain has the same dick size as the MC but he uses it better?

Honestly, dick size in the game doesn't particularly matter to me as I have no interest in other men's schlongs but I understand where you're coming from.

I do tend to enjoy the games more if the NTR 'competitor' is an average guy and not a racist caricature or some other trope (ugly old sweaty bastard for instance).

 

[S3vatari0n]

Damn, you enjoy the vindictive part of it all! Although if it winds up being Netori doesn't really matter to me cause the overall downfall of the female, regardless if she gets stolen by someone else, is the thrill that keeps ya going!

I think this stems from how I interact with netorare in particular (Netori games fall into the same category as Harem games for me, so I really don't care much about them unless I want a game where I'm power-tripping, in which case, I'll just pick up a sim game where I've got total control). For me to view the game as a netorare game, I have to empathize with the MC and feel that he doesn't deserve this concrete-filled cosmic dodgeball. And if the netori in the story is superior in every way, physically, mentally, and emotionally, then I can't help but look at the MC and say "Tough luck, dude, maybe work on yourself a bit first."

 

[Spicydinet]

Any hero?

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