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[LordFrz]

A few weeks ago, I experienced a lot of games, mangas, and manhwas centered around the NTR tag.
Every day I fall more in love with the NTR tag. I enjoy even the most hardest NTRs

but I hate two thing
1: MC Loser, that is, the MC who is disgusting(appearance, personality), because we connected with the MC to enjoy NTR, but because the MC is disgusting , I get angry (like the game Never Leave Your Girlfriend Home Alone with Another Guy NTR )
2: FMC is a betrayer , that is, an FMC that is not corrupt or does not have a logical reason and betrays! I hate these fmcs, I mean, I don't have a problem if a thousand people rape her, I even enjoy it a lot, but when she cheats for no reason or for a very small reason, I hate her(like the game A Wife's Life)

I said this to see what you think about these two cases, maybe with your comments I liked both of them and I was able to enjoy these cases, sometimes I don't expect it, but one of these two cases happens and it makes me angry

Yea, I want the MC to be the objectively better guy that you would normally think is best for the girl. Makes it better when she gets corrupted and stolen by a dirt bag or ugly bastard.

But if the MC is trash to begin with I just root for the girl to leave his ass. Or if the girl is just a slut for no reason then I feel the MC dodged a bullet and is rid of a whore so he wins. It's a fine balance that few games or doujin get right.

 

[Sieglinnde]

You have a good way of thinking

if he was a loser, you wouldn't connect with him and you would connect with fmc more and you would be happy that fmc left the loser
and if FMC is a whore, you would consider her worthless and be happy that you broke up with her

but the second case is sometimes difficult because sometimes you don't know that this is going to happen and you will fall in love with fmc, for example,in the Everything Is Agreed manhwa, until chapter 50, MC's wife was great and I liked her a lot, but suddenly she breaks the promise she made and sleeps with any man behind the MC's back, except for the MC
this manhwa is very good, but it had this big problem

But isn't that something really subjective though?
It should be pretty obvious, due to the topic of my games But I really prefer the FMC to be a “whore” or something... I mean, not totally, but... More like her not being like super shy or amorous with the MC... But maybe have a more "liberal" vision... You know? Sure, she must show love for the MC because if not then the whole joke of the NTR is lost... But I'm not a fan of slow corruption either... Yes, I like it, but I prefer when the FMC has a little more "experience" in the field.... You know, I like this idea of “a girlfriend who used to sleep with many men” for a NTR game because I really like it when someone like that in the end shows to have love for his partner, or something like that... But we, as players, know the past of the MC (and the MC knows it too) and then you "feel" the NTR there... Even if nothing has happened yet

 

[Sieglinnde]

I don't think these two things are subjective

Why would anyone like MC Loser!? I can't find any reason

Why would anyone like fmc to betray him? I think this action does not cause feelings related to ntr (harvest, stress, excitement, etc.), or at least let's compare:
1: FMC enters into sexual relations with Bull because of MC's economic conditions, drugs, blackmail, etc., or FMC gradually becomes corrupt due to MC's wrong choices or conditions or game story and enters into sexual relations with Bull
2: fmc has sex with bull because of his personal interest in money and social status (for example, the manhwa of So close, yet so far) or because she enjoys being a whore (manhwa of Everything Is Agreed) and any other similar reasons, she is a big betrayer
Which one is more beautiful? Definitely case one

I agree with the rest of your words

Idk, I always said that all NTR is really subjective, in how each one feels it with the characters... That's why I feel it's great to have different NTR games with different interpretations... I really feel these kind of things are subjective...
Personally speaking, I don't like the MC to be a total loser... But not a total winner, either
I personally don't read NTR manwha because... Idk, most of them are pretty brutal in how they show it (the ones i've read, that is)... I am just talking about NTR games and such

 

[Kaitol]

I prefer loser and jerk MC's because they deserve it. What I hate is really good partners who lose the girl because of one small mistake, because it just feels like the author contrived it and generates sympathy, if he's a loser or a jerk it's more believable and a lot less sympathetic, so I can enjoy the girl slowly cutting him off and cucking him behind his back. So yeah, it is subjective, not everybody in the world thinks the same way.

 

[Pango_12]

Since I love Mystery NTR with oblivious MCs, I prefer if the MC is a good guy. As for the FMC, I don't really care, though I love it when she was all naive and kind in the beginning and become absolute evil bitch in the end.
The antagonist... I'm in the camp of 'force of nature' rather than a character of his own.

 

[lookatall]

I understand, you enjoy it because you are watching the story as a third person and you don't connect with the MC, so you don't feel bad about him being a loser.
For those who sink into the story and connect with MC, MC Loser is unnerving

Let me ask you a question then, why don't you connect with the FMC?

I'll give you a hypothetical scenario, say a husband and wife got married straight out of high school and she was a very reserved and shy person and went along with the marriage because she had gone through her life putting others first, and having difficulty saying no to people.

She finds herself in an unhappy marriage, and finds herself asking if this is all there is to her life?

Then outta nowhere here comes a blonde haired, tanned, buff dude whose attentions makes her feels things she hasn't felt before, things she's only heard about other people feeling in movies or on tv.

She's barely known romance before, but at the same time, she is married so she's torn. The fundamental question though is - should she stay in a marriage she's unhappy in? Is it fair to herself? Is it fair to the husband/MMC? Should they have children who'd be in an unhappy home?

Her whole life had looked planned and miserable up until blonde NTR guy appeared and began to open her eyes (and legs.)

As she gets corrupted, she enjoys everything in her life more besides just the sex, meals, socializing, exercising, caring about her appearance again, she learns or rediscovers confidence, she's happier with every passing day.


Now take all of that, and put it up against vanilla MC guy who just wants everything to stay exactly the same forever, his wife is miserable in the marriage but she's too polite and reserved to ever say anything.

If MC were to win in this scenario, the FMC would lose, their future children would lose, the NTR guy would lose, and the audience/us would lose.

I'd really like to do a much longer essay or maybe youtube video about the topic because I get the feeling a lot of people who aren't into NTR might like it if they just changed their perspective. If you approach NTR focused on the MMC's thoughts and feelings, you're going to have a bad time and doing it completely wrong. If you approach NTR focused on the woman's thoughts and feelings, you'll have a really really good time. I mean her thoughts are way sexier than the MMC's anyway, and only get sexier as the story goes on.

After all it's the woman who has the real development in any NTR story, the husband is just a supporting character, and if people would stop (god I hate this term) self-inserting, and especially self-inserting into the wrong character, they'd have a much better time.

 

[Bad End]

A few weeks ago, I experienced a lot of games, mangas, and manhwas centered around the NTR tag.
Every day I fall more in love with the NTR tag. I enjoy even the most hardest NTRs

but I hate two thing
1: MC Loser, that is, the MC who is disgusting(appearance, personality), because we connected with the MC to enjoy NTR, but because the MC is disgusting , I get angry (like the game Never Leave Your Girlfriend Home Alone with Another Guy NTR )
2: FMC is a betrayer , that is, an FMC that is not corrupt or does not have a logical reason and betrays! I hate these fmcs, I mean, I don't have a problem if a thousand people rape her, I even enjoy it a lot, but when she cheats for no reason or for a very small reason, I hate her(like the game A Wife's Life)

I said this to see what you think about these two cases, maybe with your comments I liked both of them and I was able to enjoy these cases, sometimes I don't expect it, but one of these two cases happens and it makes me angry

1. Yeah I agree with this:

Yea, I want the MC to be the objectively better guy that you would normally think is best for the girl. Makes it better when she gets corrupted and stolen by a dirt bag or ugly bastard.

Ugly male MC just deserves what he has coming to him usually. It's better when it's an actually good couple that you can't help but support them, then see it get ruined.

2. I like cheater girls the most. There's something hot about the girl betraying and lying about it with a guilty look on her face, or even just doing it openly. I like the idea of the girl cheating and still treating you normally, or for her to stop caring about you and even break up. They both have their own appeal. It can start with whatever incentive fits the best, from her getting seduced and stolen to her initially getting blackmailed or being convinced to for some reason.

 

[denisugeng]

Consider nanaha? Link?

 

[Yambidexter]

Hm. Turns out Consider Nanaha translation has been available for over a month in the translation's thread. I put the patched game on

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[UmbraPenumbra]

Anyone has Soredemo Tsuma o Ai Shiteru 2 full save? Many thanks!

 

[Twin Fangs]

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new delicious ntr game

Anyone have this?

 

[dakatoshji]

dude i hope you can continue but you need learn more open patreon or like site and open post here i hope we can support you

good job bro keep going

Here's v0.02 actually, please let me know what you think!
2 more CGs and many, many fixes. Still figuring out some plugins, so expect it to be quite buggy.

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Been very busy lately. I may consider opening up a Patreon if life gets less busy haha. So maybe later for that.

 

[bucefala]

Let me ask you a question then, why don't you connect with the FMC?

I'll give you a hypothetical scenario, say a husband and wife got married straight out of high school and she was a very reserved and shy person and went along with the marriage because she had gone through her life putting others first, and having difficulty saying no to people.

She finds herself in an unhappy marriage, and finds herself asking if this is all there is to her life?

Then outta nowhere here comes a blonde haired, tanned, buff dude whose attentions makes her feels things she hasn't felt before, things she's only heard about other people feeling in movies or on tv.

She's barely known romance before, but at the same time, she is married so she's torn. The fundamental question though is - should she stay in a marriage she's unhappy in? Is it fair to herself? Is it fair to the husband/MMC? Should they have children who'd be in an unhappy home?

Her whole life had looked planned and miserable up until blonde NTR guy appeared and began to open her eyes (and legs.)

As she gets corrupted, she enjoys everything in her life more besides just the sex, meals, socializing, exercising, caring about her appearance again, she learns or rediscovers confidence, she's happier with every passing day.


Now take all of that, and put it up against vanilla MC guy who just wants everything to stay exactly the same forever, his wife is miserable in the marriage but she's too polite and reserved to ever say anything.

If MC were to win in this scenario, the FMC would lose, their future children would lose, the NTR guy would lose, and the audience/us would lose.

I'd really like to do a much longer essay or maybe youtube video about the topic because I get the feeling a lot of people who aren't into NTR might like it if they just changed their perspective. If you approach NTR focused on the MMC's thoughts and feelings, you're going to have a bad time and doing it completely wrong. If you approach NTR focused on the woman's thoughts and feelings, you'll have a really really good time. I mean her thoughts are way sexier than the MMC's anyway, and only get sexier as the story goes on.

After all it's the woman who has the real development in any NTR story, the husband is just a supporting character, and if people would stop (god I hate this term) self-inserting, and especially self-inserting into the wrong character, they'd have a much better time.

People like you exemplify pefectly how stupid human reasoning can be. Ntr is not just a woman breaking up with her husband because she lost feeling for him and gained feeling for another. Its also cheating, which means she still maintains and is in a relationship with her husband whilst dating and fucking the other guy. Couples that get together by cheating never last, as they are built on a foundation of human selfishness and uncaring for another's suffering. Not only that, the choices we make not only reveal us, but also change us. So the woman cheating on her man, being disloyal, through sheer severity of action and lack of guilt change her into a worse person, it makes her scummier. The man also is disguisting, having sexual and romantic relations with another's wife without first asking her to break up and divorce if she's interested in him and wanting to see if they can find happiness together.

There never will be a romance story between 2 horrible people. Plain and simple. Ntr isnt a love story if you look through someone else's perspective. Its pure disguisting betrayal. Its not breaking up, its lying and being disloyal and hurting someone irreversably and stringing along and benefitting from the security of a stable relationship with the person you are shitting on. You can like and enjoy ntr, but dont twist it all up. There is nothing pretty or heartwarming about it.

 

[Sieglinnde]

People like you exemplify pefectly how stupid human reasoning can be. Ntr is not just a woman breaking up with her husband because she lost feeling for him and gained feeling for another. Its also cheating, which means she still maintains and is in a relationship with her husband whilst dating and fucking the other guy. Couples that get together by cheating never last, as they are built on a foundation of human selfishness and uncaring for another's suffering. Not only that, the choices we make not only reveal us, but also change us. So the woman cheating on her man, being disloyal, through sheer severity of action and lack of guilt change her into a worse person, it makes her scummier. The man also is disguisting, having sexual and romantic relations with another's wife without first asking her to break up and divorce if she's interested in him and wanting to see if they can find happiness together.

There never will be a romance story between 2 horrible people. Plain and simple. Ntr isnt a love story if you look through someone else's perspective. Its pure disguisting betrayal. Its not breaking up, its lying and being disloyal and hurting someone irreversably and stringing along and benefitting from the security of a stable relationship with the person you are shitting on. You can like and enjoy ntr, but dont twist it all up. There is nothing pretty or heartwarming about it.

This is what I talk about when I say that it depends on each one interpretation... I mean, here we are talking primarily about something fictional, and different NTR stories that can be made for games or things like that... In that sense, I don't really agree with what you say about “Its pure disguisting betrayal. Its not breaking up, its lying and being disloyal and hurting someone irreversably and stringing along and benefitting from the security of a stable relationship with the person you are shitting on”... That doesn't necessarily have to be so at all... It depends a lot on the perspective in which you see it, you know? For example, I mentioned it before but I prefer games where the NTR is treated in a comical way... For example “my girlfriend advanced to the dancer class and she buffs everyone” where NTR happens all the time, but I think the way it's handled is amazing because it's given a lot of humorous touch... Though I don't like games like “Lovelorn sanatorium” for example, because there the whole game is based on constant parody... I like that there is at least some seriousness, so we feel something for the characters, but I don't like at all that it's something super cruel where we feel bad and things like that... That's the reason why I personally don't like "Dark Hero Party"
If you like that kind of NTR, that's fine... But it's just subject to one's consideration... In the end they are different experiences

 

[Reven23]

Another ntr meaning discussion

 

[Kaitol]

Unhinged rant about something meaningless in a thread about porn games

"RAAAH, I am the final authority and arbiter on what is good and possible in reality, you stupid peons! Simply because I PERSONALLY don't like thinking about this, it's impossible! Even though we're supposed to be talking about FICTIONAL PORN GAMES, where you can write whatever the fuck you want, and the fact that it has also doubtless happened in real life countless times I'm going to rant and throw around personal insults! RAAAAH"

You absolute clownshoe'd buffoon. Do you think everybody in the history of the world has truly, deeply, loved their spouse and been in a position to leave them, even if they wanted to, even today? What the fuck do you think those people do for affection and love? Ever heard of a mistress? Put a little time and effort into thinking about something before you go calling other people stupid during a kneejerk rant. Human relationships aren't some binary thing you can make blanket black-and-white statements about and look like anything other than a childish fool. Go touch some grass.

 

[bucefala]

Are those the situations typically in ntr media, dumbass? Its almost always a decent guy thats not good in bed, or a good guy but a pushover untill its too late. We arent talking about forced marriage.

In all actual situations presented in ntr media and the ones that exist in real life, people do have the possibility to leave their spouse. They dont do it cause its inconvenient and they dont want to lose the benefits and security of a stable relationship until they are confident they would be better off with the other guy, aka after a hell of a lot of fucking. Thats evil, plain and simple. If you are a decent human being and start to lose feeling for your partner and have feeling for someone else, leave the current relationship before sexual relations with the new prospect. Its a gamble, but that's the non shitty thing to do.

 

[zebucetiva]

Come on, guys. We are heading to 700 thread pages, I know you guys are new here and are eager to talk about it, but let's keep it to recommendations and other type of discussion.
We already had this discussion one hundred times, maybe it was funny 5 years ago, but now? I don't think so. This thread is 7 years old, there's nothing new about definitions that you can bring to the table. It's just annoying.

 

[Animefan_09]

Ok just saw this hilarious manga: basically when the fat ntr ojisan decides to use his prowess for

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xD

 

[Nutting The Rueful]

Ok just saw this hilarious manga: basically when the fat ntr ojisan decides to use his prowess for

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xD

Clearly spells NTR is not a main theme nor I think it would have proper NTR