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On the topic of your game in particular, I must say that I don’t really understand why Heartsworn Abyss starts the way it does.The best NTR is a mix of MC/FMC perspectives.
In the past, I played an NTR that was male-only POV… it was bad. Scenes with minimal context, everything obscured, couldn’t even see the girl’s corruption. When you got to the end, the girl was already long gone. As we all know, the journey is as important as the destination in NTR, not seeing the girl’s corruption in real-time is absolutely a travesty.
Therefore, the problem is not female protagonists, but poor writing. There is no NTR if the bf/husband gets written out 5 minutes into the story. For that reason, although Acerola games are labeled NTR, they’re mostly corruption because you don’t interact with the husband in any meaningful way.
I enjoy playing as the heroine, and I also enjoy playing as the “hero,” so my VN focuses on both perspectives. I want to see how Akari falls to the ugly bastard, not just observe the aftermath.
The Japanese crowdfunding sites are in Japanese, which makes westerners averse to register and enter their payment info.
Updates aren’t immediately playable unless one knows Japanese, unless you're just there for the scenes.
Translators (human ones) often only translate games that are completed. Translating a WIP can be a waste of time when things are constantly changing
And sometimes supporters just like communicating with the dev.
Therefore, release is more important because it has better chances of being localized. Not every update has an H-scene, and people that want to play early are mostly looking for those (sadly).
For western games, all updates are playable upon release because they’re written in English. We don't need to wait for someone to translate or patch things. If it's out, it's out.
That being said, people do ask when things are going to release more than updates. It’s extremely hard to get subscribers. People see a few bad eggs earn tons of money for semi-annual updates and suddenly all developers are lumped in with the same label. Which makes it really hard for us devs who DO rely on crowdfunding to develop and finish our games.
From what I remember the first section introduced a Stalker/Rape situation before the MC really gets introduced. I’m aware at least that now the MC has been included in the most recent update.
Why did you start things in that way? And at what point (in terms of updates) do you think we’ll reach the main corruption narrative?
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Actually the graveyard of unfinished JP games here (and on ci-en) show that dev hell is very real for both cultures.
Since this is an EN forum, by nature it will have more EN games and commentary. There are like a ton of obscure JP games that never see the light of day. Whereas every 0.1 AI game under the sun still gets uploaded here.
Heya!
It was meant to be a homage to JP NTR games, where it’s common to see a woman in a mid-fallen state before starting at the very beginning. In a way, it builds intrigue and an impending sense of dread. JRPG games like Trails also used this "mid-game to prologue" tactic, which I guess also confused some players at that time.
I still like the prologue very much, however I would probably make the clues much more explicit next time around.
I’d like you to think of the prologue as a nightmare, and that Akari’s fate is still up in the air at that point. With modern AI technologies, it’s very easy to splice voices into recordings, and I assume Akari will bring up that defence (whether you trust her is another matter). I will also add that Akari’s luggage was stolen in Chapter 1, a detail some people overlook. :3
We will get to that scene eventually, but there is a lot of other corruption going on in the process, and not just involving Gon!
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In the game I'm making, you play from the male POV first, and at some point of the game it changes to the FMC and shows you everything that happened from her POV, but this is almost at the end of the game.
Is this what you mean by mixing MC/FMC perspectives? I feel like showing everything from the female POV immediately isn't interesting. I've played Japanese NTR visual novels and generally they do something like that. And the ones that don't, don't even feel like NTR to me, because you know what's happening from the beginning.
Of course, in my game, while playing from the male POV you get clues here and there that show you that something isn't right. Maybe you find her and she is in a rush and agitated, maybe her hair is messed up and she is sweating, maybe she starts wearing more slutty clothes, maybe you call her on the phone and she sounds strange and lets out a moan, etc. And in my game specifically there are certain mechanics that let you "see" the H-scenes from the male POV, in a way that doesn't reveal everything to the main character and only raises his suspicions.
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I see. Sakura Atelier games also follow your strategy! Male POV first, then male+female POV on second run. This works because their games usually end with FMC corrupted and MC being a cuck. I think it's great for linear stories with a mystery focus.
A major difference is that my story is about avoidable netorare and the heroine having actual agency. This approach doesn’t work because what the MC sees depends on what Akari did in previous scenes (which you decide). In Chapter 4 you can see how their dialog changes depending on what Akari experienced in previous chapters, and Chapter 5 further illustrates that concept. (The upcoming H-scene in Ch. 5 might not even happen depending on your choices.)
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I've been hearing about Black Rune for years, and this game never gets off the ground. It looks good, even though it's FMC, it will have scenes set in the boyfriend's view, which is good, because FMC and NTR are not the same thing. But hey, I don't know when it will be released (or if it will be released)
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For me, just Nuko Majin newest game. Dunno it's gonna released this year or not.
Yeah i just wanna be sure. Better safe than sorry.
Now that i know that, i will give it a try for sure.
PS: She look badass : )
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Dungeon and bride (my most expected game) it is the silksong of NTR games
Apart from the ones already mentioned, and which I look forward to, it is
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, even if it look like a copy of Scars of Summer I see potential in it.
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Wow, this really caught my attention, for something as well done as Scars of Summer, but I don't think it will be released this year.
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Another masterpiece is coming but author is not able to decide the release date due to competition. This the same guy who previously made "you like the sun are falling ". Although it was a cheap knockoff of scars of summer, the art had potential. His new game looks good. Already tried the trial. He has learned from his past mistakes and hopefully this game will be good.