That seems more like an annoyance with the Dev's you encounter, not with the ai art itself. Treat both of them like a different thing, a dev is lazy no matter if they have ai art at their disposal or not.
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And now try to remember how many games without AI art got lazy in all the other regards, and got abandoned? There really isn't much difference... Devs with AI art are lazy, devs without AI art are lazy. It's not the tool's problem, it's their whole mentality problems.
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It's different to each person, in my case I'm not into "everything is happiness" kind of story, I like to watch the story as an outsider as things goes bad for someone, speacially for a no attitude stupid protagonist.
But AI CG is a hard pass for me.
How's my statement bold? The proof is in the website. It's hardly bold to state the obvious.
Oh, so you agree that non ai art on here tends to be mediocre? My point exactly, also stay on subject. I'm not your venting buddy nor do i want to make the argument last longer than it should.
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Yeah I don't disagree with there being lazy devs everywhere just simply that AI lowers the barrier of entry for the minimum effort required to actually make something from the get go. I don't think it's really something that could be argued that making AI art is fundamentally easier than even using 3D models from the various places people use. Though it's not like I'm really biased against it. I'll check out any game if it looks interesting enough AI or otherwise. I'd just say I'm probably more likely to hold off until a game gets more updates with a game made with AI art to see if the dev is committed enough.
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I'm halfway with you here. I delve into porn games looking for a decent story filled with full unafraid adult content. I do enjoy seeing corruption stories, I admit to enjoying following a girl, her family, the town slip into depravity. "NTR", "Female Protagonist", "Cheating" stories are the only ones you typically find willing to try to put the pretty female characters into multi- free use, or group situations. Unfortunately there is also a strong element in those stories of betrayal, turning the LI/FMC into an otherwise uselss and uninteresting 1-dimensional sextoy, and MC humiliation which I truly do not enjoy, and gets me right out of the audience for it. So I find myself looking, then rejecting alot of stories... or just putting up with it hoping for a teased revenge ending.
I really do not understand the motivation to create a cuck and spend months to years of your life writing and creating a VN or game about humiliating the helplessly handicapped cuck they created out of thin air. You can have a corruption of the FMC or LI story without having to castrate the MC. There are really not alot of creators seem to be interested in stories like that. So I'm still looking.
NTS stories address this directly, but frequently with another missing piece. They create then cuck the MC again (smh). In most of the VN/Games with NTS the MC is purposely made a Small to Mid, who then gets off watching his LI/FMC become a slut with his encouragement and permission, while he stays to the side jerking off. WTF?!?! I don't get that kink either. Once again, the creators seem to need to make the MC an observer to the action. What is this motivation to fabricate a wimp, make him the MC, and then lock him in a cage?
Harem game take this to the other extreme. Creating an Idealized MC who is a sex god that entangles numerous FMC/LIs into willing partners for him. But they they are chained to only the MC, as apparently porn games can't have adventurism for the LI/FMCs, only the Male MC gets any, and they go so far as to insure you see nobody else ever having funtimes, out of fear of the "NTR Haters", who seem to hate any porn that the MC is not personnally involved in. I guess the neighbor's wife doesn't get any unless your stud MC visits. There are more enjoyable stories within this genre then the others, but again, all one sided, but at least the MC is made to be involved.
What I would not give to find a story with multiple MCs, a couple or a family, who find themselves in an adventure and as they work their way through the obsticles set before them are forced to become corrupted into depravity to progress the unravelling the chains holding them back, and come out the other end victorious, bonded/committed, in love, and enthusiastically slutty. lol. Where the MCs enjoy and encourage eachother to enjoy and corrupt friends and randoms, but still return together to share their stories, and eachother with love and enthusiasm. Oh well.
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Thanks for the input. There are few things in the world I would go so far as to say I hate. I'm fully down with people chasing whatever floats their boat I don't judge. I'm just genuinely trying to understand someone else's interest. Will I be enlightened and suddenly say 'Man I love NTR it's the cucking life for me!' no, but nor will I berate someone for it if it is what they like. You got to realize I'm from a different time, like Pepperidge Farms remembers kind of times back then porn games were pretty much one flavor I'm just trying to understand the kink that is the driving force behind NTR what gives it the appeal?
For example I like playing sports I love backyard football, basketball, and even an occasional hockey game. I do not watch sports. I don't enjoy spectating sports, but I enjoy playing them. I will walk out and get my mail in my underwear, why? because I don't care what opinion other people may have of me. Other people would undoubtedly take offense at my take on these two things (again I don't care), but that is kind of my point people do not think the same. Since I am incapable of understanding that point of view I want someone to explain it to me from their point of view. Learning how others see things is the only way we can truly grow.
I mean technically every game is an NTR game we are all in the role of a spectator watching a story play out with characters who may be supposed to narratively represent us, but aren't us. Is NTR just 'I want to see naked characters I don't care who or what is buggering them.' is that the kink? Just mega horny? Or is there some legitimate appeal and arousal gained from someone else fucking the person you love?
Thanks Rahveryn,
This is exactly the kind of feedback I'm looking for. Thank you for your thoughtful and well-written post. I agree with your outlook I'm all for female characters getting to have some fun and not be vapid one-dimensional unthinking sex toys. I also agree I don't enjoy having a main character or supporting character being created simply to be ridiculed and to be the butt of the joke for the game being a weak helpless fool manipulated and taken advantage of.
Your last paragraph I could get behind. I could see a game with a sex crazed couple that goes out and screws the entire town then comes back to rile each other up with their raunchy stories before engaging in some mind-blowing hedonism. That actually sounds like an entertaining premise. Again thanks for your feedback.
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Reddit is that way, sir.
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It's funny how the first few pages of every new ntr games is an ntr debate.
I am with you here. I don't understand this game at all. Girl fucks MC's brother just because he called her over and her only complaint is that "he might see..." What's going on here? Are MC dating a town slut and is too retarded to see that? In the guild receptionist says that he (brother) "loves to leave his mark", as if his brother seduced his girl somehow. But he did not, she just spread her legs for him out of the blue when he asked. Was brother have some leverage on her? Not likely, she readily spreads her legs for anything with a dick. And the one reason MC don't get anything it that he didn't ask (her words)... So, whats the story here? Isn't game supposed to have a story?
When the girl gets gradually corrupted through the game that one thing, and it could be interesting if done right. NTR is all bout jealousy - it is a really strong emotion, even if dark. But to feel jealousy you need to invest your emotions into the girl. And what reason does player have to invest emotionally into a slut? None. So what the reason to play this game beside the cute art?
To be fair, I've had one person honestly engage me and give me meaningful feedback. I'd hardly call that a debate.
Can you tell me specifically what part you found enjoyable and why? Just the graphics and characters, the story, the NTR scenarios?Game is awesome. keep it up
Excellent points rogersmith, that was kind of my main criticism as well. Why is the MC invested in a woman who goes around letting anyone, but him engage in sex with her. There's no build up, no corruption, just a slut from the get go who will spread her legs for anyone except a desperate and unlikeable MC. Now if I was doing this I would make an NTR game where the clueless idiot undergoes a transformative arc becoming a villain not unlike the protagonist from 'My Gift LVL 9999 Unlimited Gacha' seeing him go from a weak abused loser hero to a merciless unremorseful tortuous villain getting revenge on all those who wronged him in over the top ways would give the story somewhere interesting to go.