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-CookieMonster666-

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Write the game/story YOU want to write. Catering to others is often the path to being dissatisfied with the game and abandonment.
has nothing to do with the story , it's talk about a kink... not the story...
Exactly. How do you know making it avoidable isn't sticking with what Elsa wants to do anyway? Having something optional (within reason, so you don't completely derail a game's progress) is usually a good idea. Players have varying tastes, so you are more likely to get a bigger fan base if you provide more options. I highly doubt something like this goes against what Elsa wants from the game. Making something optional that is not in conflict with the primary plot of a story shouldn't be an issue here. Besides, it's much more likely that giving players the ability to opt out of something means very little extra work for a dev; adding content (renders, a new path, etc.) is where things are more easily bogged down.
 
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Maybe it's for a pregnancy test.
That's not a bad idea.. But then again I don't see the point of making it avoidable. It's not exactly a super extreme kink scene. Pretty "natural/normal" situation.
Maybe there's something different.. if Elsa's a little...worried about it.

Will there be pregnancy, impregnation and or breeding content?
I'm sure you will a chance.. You'll impregnate them all, don't worry. And Lancy, and the teacher too, all of them. There has to be a good ending.;)
 

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Maybe it's for a pregnancy test.
That's not a bad idea.. But then again I don't see the point of making it avoidable. It's not exactly a super extreme kink scene. Pretty "natural/normal" situation.
Maybe there's something different.. if Elsa's a little...worried about it.
Nah: they just go back to the nude beach and MC gets stung by a swarm of jellyfish. Since they got him everywhere, all the girls just straddle him and let loose, head to toe. ;)

(This was actually a scene from Chasing Sunsets - Mallory splashes MC in the face after a jellyfish incident.)
 

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Nah: they just go back to the nude beach and MC gets stung by a swarm of jellyfish. Since they got him everywhere, all the girls just straddle him and let loose, head to toe. ;)

(This was actually a scene from Chasing Sunsets - Mallory splashes MC in the face after a jellyfish incident.)
I was just thinking--one of the problems with the "make it avoidable" argument is that there is a very vocal contingent here who will complain if something they don't like exists in the game, even if they are not forced to see it.

I really wish some of these people would try making their own game for a few months before declaring how easy it is to do X or Y.
 

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I was just thinking--one of the problems with the "make it avoidable" argument is that there is a very vocal contingent here who will complain if something they don't like exists in the game, even if they are not forced to see it.

I really wish some of these people would try making their own game for a few months before declaring how easy it is to do X or Y.
I don't seek out watersports, and I avoid scat and vomit like my life depends on it, but I'm not going to not engage an otherwise good VN just because that can be triggered if you want it to be triggered.

I'm also not a "knock 'em all up" kind of player, either - if it makes sense, especially if it's in an epilogue, I think it's good, but I don't want my MC to be Nick Cannon or any number of professional athletes, with baby-mommas all over the universe. Kids should never be an afterthought or a scorecard, so I don't like for a VN to be that way either (there are a couple of exceptions to this rule that I actually enjoy, but they are VNs based in absurdity and that's part of it). Still, if it's there, even if it is written as unavoidable, I won't avoid the VN just because I'd prefer a different ending if the story is otherwise engaging and I like the LIs.

I think it boils down to levels of maturity: mature minds can make choices without screeding all over the boards that a Dev shouldn't have included something they don't like and that they have to change it or they won't pirate his games anymore. When I see all the bitchers and moaners going on about piss, pregnancy, NTR, too much incest, not enough incest, and on and on and on and on, I just ignore those folks (often quietly, sometimes not :sneaky:) and move on.

I've recently stopped watching several titles and taken them off my list because they were going directions I didn't want to go, or I just got tired of the piss-poor writing/grammar/spelling atrocities, but I didn't screed or announce my departure - my participation simply stopped. Someone might notice, but likely not - it doesn't matter and I have better things to do than be a whiny bitch about what pixels do or don't do in a make believe world I didn't pay someone to create. If that's the kind of person you are, well, I know where you likely fall on the IQ curve (hint, it is well to the left of me and others that haven't made it their crusade to bitch about VN content on these boards), and I hope you enjoy being whiny and miserable, though I'm unlikely to indulge you or even realize you exist after hitting that little "ignore" button.

Huh. That took a turn. ;)
 
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I was just thinking--one of the problems with the "make it avoidable" argument is that there is a very vocal contingent here who will complain if something they don't like exists in the game, even if they are not forced to see it.

I really wish some of these people would try making their own game for a few months before declaring how easy it is to do X or Y.
I don't seek out watersports, and I avoid scat and vomit like my life depends on it, but I'm not going to not engage an otherwise good VN just because that can be triggered if you want it to be triggered.

I'm also not a "knock 'em all up" kind of player, either - if it makes sense, especially if it's in an epilogue, I think it's good, but I don't want my MC to be Nick Cannon or any number of professional athletes, with baby-mommas all over the universe. Kids should never be an afterthought or a scorecard, so I don't like for a VN to be that way either (there are a couple of exceptions to this rule that I actually enjoy, but they are VNs based in absurdity and that's part of it). Still, if it's there, even if it is written as unavoidable, I won't avoid the VN just because I'd prefer a different ending if the story is otherwise engaging and I like the LIs.

I think it boils down to levels of maturity: mature minds can make choices without screeding all over the boards that a Dev shouldn't have included something they don't like and that they have to change it or they won't pirate his games anymore. When I see all the bitchers and moaners going on about piss, pregnancy, NTR, too much incest, not enough incest, and on and on and on and on, I just ignore those folks (often quietly, sometimes not :sneaky:) and move on.

I've recently stopped watching several titles and taken them off my list because they were going directions I didn't want to go, or I just got tired of the piss-poor writing/grammar/spelling atrocities, but I didn't screed or announce my departure - my participation simply stopped. Someone might notice, but likely not - it doesn't matter and I have better things to do than be a whiny bitch about what pixels do or don't do in a make believe world I didn't pay someone to create. If that's the kind of person you are, well, I know where you likely fall on the IQ curve (hint, it is well to the left of me and others that haven't made it their crusade to bitch about VN content on these boards).
Not to mention, many of those complaints are asinine anyway. If it always happens no matter what, at least there's an argument to be made (even if I don't agree with it). But if it's avoidable (not just skippable / ignorable), that would imply that, while the character could do it if you want, if you don't choose that option it never happens. That'd be akin to saying, "She's thought about breast implants, so what's all the silicone doing in her body?!" It just doesn't make any sense. Shrug.png
 

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If that's the kind of person you are, well, I know where you likely fall on the IQ curve (hint, it is well to the left of me and others that haven't made it their crusade to bitch about VN content on these boards), and I hope you enjoy being whiny and miserable, though I'm unlikely to indulge you or even realize you exist after hitting that little "ignore" button.

Huh. That took a turn. ;)
Well, I like to think that I have the intelligence and maturity to realize you're using a generic "you" and are not directing it at me. ;) I can't quite understand what motivates people to spend so much of their energy complaining about trivialities.

I'm still fighting the urge to announce ignores. Unfortunately, people I read keep responding to the people I ignore, so I keep getting tempted to peek under the curtain. It's rare that my decision to ignore is not reinforced by that peek.
 
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Well, I like to think that I have the intelligence and maturity to realize you're using a generic "you" and are not directing it at me. ;)
Oh you! You are correct! :ROFLMAO:

I honestly looked that over a couple of times to make sure it was clear enough that I was writing in generalities and not direct. Figured you'd understand. The only "you" likely to be offended is the kind of "you" that is the object of the comment. ;)

And this conversation now reminds me of Carly Simon..."I bet you think this post is about you..." (Too bad the emojis don't include the musical notes...)
 

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"I bet you think this post is about you..." (Too bad the emojis don't include the musical notes...)
Don't you? Don't you? ♫♪ (Not sure if they show up correctly on all OSs, what with Windows using weird ass code pages, but UTF8 has a few musical notes you can sprinkle into your posts… also, I see you are a man of culture as well!)
 
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Well - let's give some toughs about the whole "kinky" stuff above without giving any details or spoilers. I think it's perfectly fine to have some "kinky" stuff, as long as it's very light or simply avoidable. That last one is a bit more work, because you have to skip a scene and pick the story up after that in a natural way, so people do not even realize there was something in-between. Also, you have to make sure that in later conversations the characters do not refer to that situation (easy done by setting a flag).

As long as nothing "heavy" is forced in the VN I think there is a very little amount of people that really are offended. It's only when those "heavy" things are made unavoidable that people are going to complain. Especially if those things are coming "out of the blue". For example. I am not a fan (to put it mildly) of netorare. If a game exist for a long time as a vanilla game and the author thinks it's a good idea to suddenly dump netorare on a person that is completely and utterly out of character for that person, you know it's because of a cash grab. That can make me upset enough (because you invested time in that person, ony to see that character ruined) to abandon the game. For all clarity - I am NOT referring to Nudist School, if that was not obvious enough.

Anyway - I love this game, and have a lot of fun with it. Personally I have no problem with any "kinky" stuff in this game, because it's always in a lighthearted way. Just enough to appeal to people that like it, but not too much for people that are not "into" that. So far the author is doing a very good job in my humble opinion.

P.S. - Olivia is still the best girl!
 
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Ohhhh .... Endless serious discussion: "Developer vs The World"
Poor Elsa..

That's still the same. I think ..I want it/I don't want it.
Golden Rule:
Elsa = Developer - her Game
Fair-Trade F95 Pirates = Consumers

Let Elsa do what she believes...
...because democratic development = fucking development



By the way... I want..., I want..., I want...noooow!!:cool:

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I wouldn't say that.. but it's true that the personalities of the girls are a big cliché and scenes come off a bit like RNG. Maybe the game would work better like a sandbox.
Yeah, the scenes do really feel random in both what happens and how they play out. The whole bunny cafe bit though in this update though was just incredibly cringy, it just felt like a perspective on reality from someone who doesn't go outside.
 
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