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SadCatAI

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How about adding a story line or scene where she hooks up with a partner that not only is amazing at sex but also has near perfect body compatibility with Kat, with her openly acknowledging this? Suggesting this in relation to the other user suggesting Kat could be more submissive and not as a way to devolve this from NTS play. Like have her be in control at first during the encounter(s) > her control wavers > her control breaks > she is now in the submissive end.

I don't know about anyone else but I find it particularly hot when a calm and collected women like kuuderes have their cool demeanor and expression broken and turn into a sticky, shivering mess. Including sequences with Kat reassuring MC that even though the sex was incredible to her it's still just sex and the only man she feels a true connection with is him.

This way the conditions of having the MC get off from witnessing Kat drowning in pleasure AND keeping the loving aspect of the story between the two intact without it devolving into generic NTR slop could be fulfilled.
The femboy/twink catboy's arc is going to be similar to this
 
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The femboy/twink catboy's arc is going to be similar to this
Are you going for the same vibe as those Ankoman doujins with Astolfo fucking the Fate girls into submission? Yea that might work, the contrast of having a bombshell like Kat getting dominated not by some hunk or anyone you'd expect, but rather an unassuming twink smaller than her does sound hot.
 

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How about adding a story line or scene where she hooks up with a partner that not only is amazing at sex but also has near perfect body compatibility with Kat, with her openly acknowledging this? Suggesting this in relation to the other user suggesting Kat could be more submissive and not as a way to devolve this from NTS play. Like have her be in control at first during the encounter(s) > her control wavers > her control breaks > she is now in the submissive end.

I don't know about anyone else but I find it particularly hot when a calm and collected women like kuuderes have their cool demeanor and expression broken and turn into a sticky, shivering mess. Including sequences with Kat reassuring MC that even though the sex was incredible to her it's still just sex and the only man she feels a true connection with is him.

This way the conditions of having the MC get off from witnessing Kat drowning in pleasure AND keeping the loving aspect of the story between the two intact without it devolving into generic NTR slop could be fulfilled.
Nah
 

groundhogday71

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Will someone please add the 'anal' tag to this? There's already images for anal sex in the game as it is right now at this moment, and based on a teaser for Patreon, this next update is most likely going to have "real" anal it. I really enjoy this game, but I have pretty specific fetishes and found it on accident when I would have found it immediately if there was an 'anal' tag.

I'm not trying to be a pedantic jerk; there's just so much content all over the internet that doesn't get tagged right and no one seems to care about keeping proper tags and then everyone wonders why no one ever finds anything.

Further, in my case, based on how the dev comports himself and the quality of the work, I wouldn't mind parting with some scratch when this game is finished, and I'm not special, so there are other 'inactive' people like me out there for certain.

Thanks for reading my garbage.

Also, great game, great writing. I appreciate how Kat loves her husband truly and deeply and this is NTS and not NTR. Sex shouldn't be fucking cruel even the imaginary kind.

The only real complaint I have is thus: you are given a humiliation path and a non-humiliation path. It does not make sense that Kat "lies" about what all Will and her did behind MC's back on the non-humiliation path, and it doesn't make sense that Kat just goes into the shower with Alex to fuck him and doesn't explicitly tell MC.

Real couples in real NTS relationships are hyper vigilant about consent and boundaries and shit or it could ruin their marriage and they are keenly aware of that. It would be nice if Kat was a little more mindful of her actions on the non-humiliation path. Or even better, the MC has a little more self-respect and calls her out gently for this behavior and she listens to him because Kat loves and respects her husband. This kind of shit only works in the real world if both parties are incredibly respectful to one another and it would add a nice touch of realism without changing the scenario just some dialogue lines.

Edit: Also, Kat shouldn't joke about staying the night over at Will's house or going back over there on the non-humiliation path either. NTS is about everyone sticking to clearly laid out boundaries. That's what really separates it from NTR. The love and respect. I really, really appreciated Kat standing her ground with Alex while he was calling her a slut on the non-humiliation path. But then it didn't make any sense for her to sneak over there on the non-humiliation path to have sex without telling MC and then saying her pussy belongs to black men instead of her husband. There needs to be a smidge more distinction to the humiliation and non-humiliation path.
 
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SadCatAI

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Will someone please add the 'anal' tag to this? There's already images for anal sex in the game as it is right now at this moment, and based on a teaser for Patreon, this next update is most likely going to have "real" anal it. I really enjoy this game, but I have pretty specific fetishes and found it on accident when I would have found it immediately if there was an 'anal' tag.

I'm not trying to be a pedantic jerk; there's just so much content all over the internet that doesn't get tagged right and no one seems to care about keeping proper tags and then everyone wonders why no one ever finds anything.

Further, in my case, based on how the dev comports himself and the quality of the work, I wouldn't mind parting with some scratch when this game is finished, and I'm not special, so there are other 'inactive' people like me out there for certain.

Thanks for reading my garbage.

Also, great game, great writing. I appreciate how Kat loves her husband truly and deeply and this is NTS and not NTR. Sex shouldn't be fucking cruel even the imaginary kind.

The only real complaint I have is thus: you are given a humiliation path and a non-humiliation path. It does not make sense that Kat "lies" about what all Will and her did behind MC's back on the non-humiliation path, and it doesn't make sense that Kat just goes into the shower with Alex to fuck him and doesn't explicitly tell MC.

Real couples in real NTS relationships are hyper vigilant about consent and boundaries and shit or it could ruin their marriage and they are keenly aware of that. It would be nice if Kat was a little more mindful of her actions on the non-humiliation path. Or even better, the MC has a little more self-respect and calls her out gently for this behavior and she listens to him because Kat loves and respects her husband. This kind of shit only works in the real world if both parties are incredibly respectful to one another and it would add a nice touch of realism without changing the scenario just some dialogue lines.

Edit: Also, Kat shouldn't joke about staying the night over at Will's house or going back over there on the non-humiliation path either. NTS is about everyone sticking to clearly laid out boundaries. That's what really separates it from NTR. The love and respect. I really, really appreciated Kat standing her ground with Alex while he was calling her a slut on the non-humiliation path. But then it didn't make any sense for her to sneak over there on the non-humiliation path to have sex without telling MC and then saying her pussy belongs to black men instead of her husband. There needs to be a smidge more distinction to the humiliation and non-humiliation path.
I appreciate the feedback
With how many content options I have right now, it is very easy to get mixed up in how things should play out for every variable, I'll see about tweaking some dialogues on the non-humiliation path so it feels much less like an afterthought
 

groundhogday71

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I appreciate the feedback
With how many content options I have right now, it is very easy to get mixed up in how things should play out for every variable, I'll see about tweaking some dialogues on the non-humiliation path so it feels much less like an afterthought
And I appreciate how much of an OG you are. You're a standup dev. I would never deign to interfere with anyone's creative process but in a real NTS relationship-of which I am personally familiar with IRL-nothing, and I mean nothing, can be an afterthought. The whole "humiliation vs. non-humiliation" thing is a really big deal IRL. Both partners have got to be on the same page and have prior consent before doing anything and "mistakes" have got to be called out by both partners. Down to Kat giving up her anal virginity before her husband gets a crack at her butt which is something I assume is going to happen in this next update. Down to jokes. Down to what is allowed to be said and not be said, etc.

IRL "staying the night" with another person that isn't your spouse is a big fucking deal. A big, big, big fucking deal. It isn't "oops, I lied" or "oops, he fucked me so good I fell asleep". Your partner has to know exactly where you stand with them at all times and everything that happens, will happen, or absolutely will not happen has got to be on the table up front.

You have several places where you could easily implement this in the game just changing dialouge. Such as MC being upset Kat would even joke about staying with Will while they're trying to figure out if this lifestyle is something they want. Another conversation Kat herself brings up after the night with Alex about her "going too far" is another point that stands out in my mind. And the other places I brought up in my previous post.

Sharing your marriage partner IRL is a big fucking deal, not some little thing like NTR tries to make it out to be. Anything else isn't really NTS. It's just NTR with extra steps. Almost every fucking game misses that. Real NTS everyone knows what's going on and is ok with it. NTS isn't just "the cuck knows and can't do anything about it". That's just NTR with a thin veneer of "consent". The cuck is involved in NTS in every decision. We don't even call the cuck a cuck in real NTS, it's "stag" and "vixen".

Edit: Last thing I'll say is just a summary but it kind of makes a difference. Even on the humiliation path. There is a big, big, big difference between your spouse poking fun at you with prior consent in the throes of passion versus making the other party think that they aren't going to come home pr have sex with you ever again. That is pretty much just NTR.
 
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And I appreciate how much of an OG you are. You're a standup dev. I would never deign to interfere with anyone's creative process but in a real NTS relationship-of which I am personally familiar with IRL-nothing, and I mean nothing, can be an afterthought. The whole "humiliation vs. non-humiliation" thing is a really big deal IRL. Both partners have got to be on the same page and have prior consent before doing anything and "mistakes" have got to be called out by both partners. Down to Kat giving up her anal virginity before her husband gets a crack at her butt which is something I assume is going to happen in this next update. Down to jokes. Down to what is allowed to be said and not be said, etc.

IRL "staying the night" with another person that isn't your spouse is a big fucking deal. A big, big, big fucking deal. It isn't "oops, I lied" or "oops, he fucked me so good I fell asleep". Your partner has to know exactly where you stand with them at all times and everything that happens, will happen, or absolutely will not happen has got to be on the table up front.

You have several places where you could easily implement this in the game just changing dialouge. Such as MC being upset Kat would even joke about staying with Will while they're trying to figure out if this lifestyle is something they want. Another conversation Kat herself brings up after the night with Alex about her "going too far" is another point that stands out in my mind. And the other places I brought up in my previous post.

Sharing your marriage partner IRL is a big fucking deal, not some little thing like NTR tries to make it out to be. Anything else isn't really NTS. It's just NTR with extra steps. Almost every fucking game misses that. Real NTS everyone knows what's going on and is ok with it. NTS isn't just "the cuck knows and can't do anything about it". That's just NTR with a thin veneer of "consent". The cuck is involved in NTS in every decision. We don't even call the cuck a cuck in real NTS, it's "stag" and "vixen".

Edit: Last thing I'll say is just a summary but it kind of makes a difference. Even on the humiliation path. There is a big, big, big difference between your spouse poking fun at you with prior consent in the throes of passion versus making the other party think that they aren't going to come home pr have sex with you ever again. That is pretty much just NTR.
The game seems to be what I consider "hard NTS" i.e. the MC allows Kat to be extra naughty/unrestricted(that's what I love about this game) which you don't consider real NTS. I can see why less extreme NTS fans want more control. But you do know in the future the MC will have the option of choosing a bull to impregnate Kat right?
 

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The game seems to be what I consider "hard NTS" i.e. the MC allows Kat to be extra naughty/unrestricted(that's what I love about this game) which you don't consider real NTS. I can see why less extreme NTS fans want more control. But you do know in the future the MC will have the option of choosing a bull to impregnate Kat right?
"The MC will have the option of choosing a bull to impregnate Kat"

Operative words being 'option' and 'choosing'. I'm sure they won't be the first couple to decide to raise a kid together that chose the good old natural way to get the wife pregnant because the husband can't for what ever reason. They CHOSE that OPTION and did it TOGETHER.

'hard NTS' is just NTR. As someone who has participated in this lifestyle, that distinction does matter. I get this is fantasy and a game and I don't want to come across as pedantic at all. I just suggested for realism sake the dev really explore the consent and mutual love and respect angle a little more, especially in the non-humiliation path. Kat's actions and words on the non-humiliation path are pretty humiliating. She just doesn't come straight out and grossly and overtly insult the MC like she does in the humiliation path but it still comes across as pretty insulting to her husband.

For example, I really did not enjoy the panic attack MC had when he thought Kat wasn't coming home. That is extremely damaging and is definitely 100% NTR the way it was presented. She acted just like a character in an NTR story in that scene down to intentionally hiding things from her already distraught husband. You don't do that in NTS. That is 100% NTR behavior.
 
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SadCatAI

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"The MC will have the option of choosing a bull to impregnate Kat"

Operative words being 'option' and 'choosing'. I'm sure they won't be the first couple to decide to raise a kid together that chose the good old natural way to get the wife pregnant because the husband can't for what ever reason. They CHOSE that OPTION and did it TOGETHER.

'hard NTS' is just NTR. As someone who has participated in this lifestyle, that distinction does matter. I get this is fantasy and a game and I don't want to come across as pedantic at all. I just suggested for realism sake the dev really explore the consent and mutual love and respect angle a little more, especially in the non-humiliation path. Kat's actions and words on the non-humiliation path are pretty humiliating. She just doesn't come straight out and grossly and overtly insult the MC like she does in the humiliation path but it still comes across as pretty insulting to her husband.

For example, I really did not enjoy the panic attack MC had when he thought Kat wasn't coming home. That is extremely damaging and is definitely 100% NTR the way it was presented. She acted just like a character in an NTR story in that scene down to intentionally hiding things from her already distraught husband. You don't do that in NTS. That is 100% NTR behavior.
I see where you are coming from and while I do my best to make interactions feel natural, there comes a point where there may be too much interpersonal drama or too much "consent-giving" when the player already knows about the consent etc. and this is a hentai game first and foremost. There also comes a point where both characters, the MC and Kat, need to give each other time to breathe, and obsessing over every little detail starts to feel like just that, obsessive. I will definitely take what you've said into consideration though as honestly I do personally feel like I haven't put in enough effort into the non-humiliation dialogue/lines tbh. The original vision for the game is the humiliation path, and non-humiliation is strictly for the people who don't like humiliating dialogue, which is a big amount of people, but I feel like I haven't been delivering properly on that front.
One thing I did establish in the game's narrative, is Kat has always teased the MC about a lot of things, which is why she is able to ease into this whole fetish a lot better than most.
 

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Will someone please add the 'anal' tag to this? There's already images for anal sex in the game as it is right now at this moment, and based on a teaser for Patreon, this next update is most likely going to have "real" anal it. I really enjoy this game, but I have pretty specific fetishes and found it on accident when I would have found it immediately if there was an 'anal' tag.

I'm not trying to be a pedantic jerk; there's just so much content all over the internet that doesn't get tagged right and no one seems to care about keeping proper tags and then everyone wonders why no one ever finds anything.

Further, in my case, based on how the dev comports himself and the quality of the work, I wouldn't mind parting with some scratch when this game is finished, and I'm not special, so there are other 'inactive' people like me out there for certain.

Thanks for reading my garbage.

Also, great game, great writing. I appreciate how Kat loves her husband truly and deeply and this is NTS and not NTR. Sex shouldn't be fucking cruel even the imaginary kind.

The only real complaint I have is thus: you are given a humiliation path and a non-humiliation path. It does not make sense that Kat "lies" about what all Will and her did behind MC's back on the non-humiliation path, and it doesn't make sense that Kat just goes into the shower with Alex to fuck him and doesn't explicitly tell MC.

Real couples in real NTS relationships are hyper vigilant about consent and boundaries and shit or it could ruin their marriage and they are keenly aware of that. It would be nice if Kat was a little more mindful of her actions on the non-humiliation path. Or even better, the MC has a little more self-respect and calls her out gently for this behavior and she listens to him because Kat loves and respects her husband. This kind of shit only works in the real world if both parties are incredibly respectful to one another and it would add a nice touch of realism without changing the scenario just some dialogue lines.

Edit: Also, Kat shouldn't joke about staying the night over at Will's house or going back over there on the non-humiliation path either. NTS is about everyone sticking to clearly laid out boundaries. That's what really separates it from NTR. The love and respect. I really, really appreciated Kat standing her ground with Alex while he was calling her a slut on the non-humiliation path. But then it didn't make any sense for her to sneak over there on the non-humiliation path to have sex without telling MC and then saying her pussy belongs to black men instead of her husband. There needs to be a smidge more distinction to the humiliation and non-humiliation path.
For Will things i guess it's teasing deep down they both know what happend. And i find it good tbh
 
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I agree that sometimes things that are not expected are more likely to stimulate a person's desire to know
I think it's more like a gray area between order and chaos, and this kind of play is similar to a double-edged sword, and the test and sexual stimulation for the protagonist will be unparalleled
 
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hey I still haven't played 0.5 but i heard that Mc does some clean up job that won't happen to me if I'm in the non humiliation path right? also it would be great if Mc got sloppy seconds I haven't played latest update yet but I hope it has it there
 
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SadCatAI

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hey I still haven't played 0.5 but i heard that Mc does some clean up job that won't happen to me if I'm in the non humiliation path right? also it would be great if Mc got sloppy seconds I haven't played latest update yet but I hope it has it there
if you kissed Kat after she came home from going with Will, that's the flag for clean up job (there was a warning before this choice)
 
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