All this talk about a futa mod seems like some giant stretch based on the story so far and what it would possibly do to the design document, if their is one. One adding a second stick will basically mean that a lot more positions are now possibly future updates, which, will increase the length of the project but it's going to have some outright skip updates if they are related to said mod. I know people will probably abandon the game all together if fluids are added to futa mod before the base model as this would be seen as focusing that content. Tbh, I think some futa content in some cases is just to get out of using male models or drawings but futa on futa yeah that not that far off of just being male on male, which given that the MC is male would make it male on futa which is more of a bi thing given the MC's history.
Unity !Ω Factorial Omega: My Dystopian Robot Girlfriend [v0.90.6] [Incontinent Cell]
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I'd say just having her be futa in otherwise available scenes would be plenty enough, getting futa-exclusive content is not necessary. I know I'm not expecting any, beside some chat comments.
It probably shouldn't even be done, given what's most of the audience.
It's very much so understandable not to put too much development time into a somewhat niche, despite high support, feature. It should be added more as a nice bonus, expanded if there's enough support for that. Of course creating fita-only scenes would put a lot of time into the game dev, however I don't recall anyone asking for that specifically.
Whilst futa on male would probably be a neat way to have unique scenes, I really wouldn't expect more than existing scenes gaining the option to give a reach around to your bot as you fuck her and her enjoying some syncronized orgasms and nutting from her pounding.
gonna be honest, the concept/gameplay/art are all great but the writing is really bad. the twitch chat is at least semi believable but then it's like "le filthy frank tells you about stonks before you frick your hecking wholesome sex doll" mixed with /pol/ talking points
Got the latest version now and i dont have a blowjob scene, also not seeing any new clothes or eyeliners. Do i have to unlock them or did the update break?
Edit: NVM the zippyshare one was missing a lot of files. Mega download worked.
Edit: NVM the zippyshare one was missing a lot of files. Mega download worked.
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Adding a dick'n'balls won't require new positions. I mean it could lead to new positions, like frotting or mutual masturbation (which I think was going to be added anyway) involving two dicks, but those I imagine would be voted on. If cunnilingus/analingus is added then maybe it would look awkward with balls in the way, and possibly could lead to a scene of giving instead of receiving fellatio. But, just like how you can only perform doggystyle sex while Jun has two legs, certain scenes could be locked with/without certain 'equipment'. Since scenes are added based on what the community votes for, then that's just how it'll go.
You are rambling at this point and it gets a little incoherent towards the end.
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I mean, it's not really supposed to be believable though? The story and setting are both very satirical. It's fine if you'd like it, of course; but it's not meant to be serious world-building. It's half dumb parody dystopian future and half the Internet become real life.
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- Keep the bot female. adding a detachable penis would be a gigantic waste of time for nearly the entirety of the current audience. Of course, having the option to make the main characters penis larger to achieve (deeper) over-penetration might be interesting....
I feel cat tails, claw shaped nails, and cat eyes - should be prioritized. Cat ears and fangs are already in the game, might as well complete that set before moving on to other things.
- I would much rather see more positions and scenes for the existing female bot, instead of a massive amount of time spent on scenes for a detachable penis, which most of the current audience would avoid.
I personally have nearly zero interest in futa. frotting is boring and never interested me. Two guys banging their penises together? uhhh... not interested at all/boring - Frotting is on par with food sex as far as popularity is concerned - most people have less than zero interest in watching someone bang a cake, and roughly the same level of interest in watching guys bonk penises together. If there are going to be two penises in a scene, there should also be at least one girl and some double penetration going on.
- By contrast - Look at how many games have cat-girls, and how popular they are. It's not even a contest. Cat Girls win every time.
Therefore I would see work for the inclusion of things like frotting as a gigantic waste of time which could be dedicated to other, more important things that would have widely universal appeal. (like cat tails, wings, or demonic horns) - though I admit I might have a slight personal bias for those last two... ;D
- A bit of a side note here...
It makes sense that there would be cat ears, they would likely serve to enhance the hearing of the bot (because that's what cat ears do in real life - ever held your hand up to your ear so you could hear better? Same idea), they allow the cat to focus and better hear noises to assist with hunting. So in the game world having that as sort of an upgrade just feels right. Cat eyes could give better vision. The tail could assist with balance for doing acrobatic maneuvers. And claws would help her in hand-to-hand combat or climbing. But that's all story/side fluff.
- The most important part is cat girls are inherently sexy. Compared to that, frotting can go right in the trash bin as far as i'm concerned.
I feel cat tails, claw shaped nails, and cat eyes - should be prioritized. Cat ears and fangs are already in the game, might as well complete that set before moving on to other things.
- I would much rather see more positions and scenes for the existing female bot, instead of a massive amount of time spent on scenes for a detachable penis, which most of the current audience would avoid.
I personally have nearly zero interest in futa. frotting is boring and never interested me. Two guys banging their penises together? uhhh... not interested at all/boring - Frotting is on par with food sex as far as popularity is concerned - most people have less than zero interest in watching someone bang a cake, and roughly the same level of interest in watching guys bonk penises together. If there are going to be two penises in a scene, there should also be at least one girl and some double penetration going on.
- By contrast - Look at how many games have cat-girls, and how popular they are. It's not even a contest. Cat Girls win every time.
Therefore I would see work for the inclusion of things like frotting as a gigantic waste of time which could be dedicated to other, more important things that would have widely universal appeal. (like cat tails, wings, or demonic horns) - though I admit I might have a slight personal bias for those last two... ;D
- A bit of a side note here...
It makes sense that there would be cat ears, they would likely serve to enhance the hearing of the bot (because that's what cat ears do in real life - ever held your hand up to your ear so you could hear better? Same idea), they allow the cat to focus and better hear noises to assist with hunting. So in the game world having that as sort of an upgrade just feels right. Cat eyes could give better vision. The tail could assist with balance for doing acrobatic maneuvers. And claws would help her in hand-to-hand combat or climbing. But that's all story/side fluff.
- The most important part is cat girls are inherently sexy. Compared to that, frotting can go right in the trash bin as far as i'm concerned.
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Don't get me wrong, i'm all about catering to people's fetishes - but to a new game (like this is) it's more important to focus on things that will have more universal appeal and draw in a larger audience. This is about profit after all, so unless the much smaller audience that enjoys things like two penises bonking against one another - is willing to put up a much larger amount of cash compared to the rest of everyone out there - then profit will inevitably drive development. And since the current game is focused on standard Hetero relationships, that's the current audience.
Trying to switch audiences early on, is not a great idea for growth, and could end up driving people away. I see a lot of games from small devs like this, who try to get everything at once in early and try catering to niche fetishes - and those games end up failing, because they never bring in the mainstream audience, or their current audience gets driven away, because of the massive amount of time spent on trying to include scenes that most people have little-or-no interest in.
Standard Eggs and Bacon is popular for a good reason, because almost everyone can enjoy it. Just like standard hetero sex games tend to have the biggest audiences. Sure you can mix other stuff in later, but if you intend on catering to the really niche stuff, then expect to have a much smaller audience.
Trying to switch audiences early on, is not a great idea for growth, and could end up driving people away. I see a lot of games from small devs like this, who try to get everything at once in early and try catering to niche fetishes - and those games end up failing, because they never bring in the mainstream audience, or their current audience gets driven away, because of the massive amount of time spent on trying to include scenes that most people have little-or-no interest in.
Standard Eggs and Bacon is popular for a good reason, because almost everyone can enjoy it. Just like standard hetero sex games tend to have the biggest audiences. Sure you can mix other stuff in later, but if you intend on catering to the really niche stuff, then expect to have a much smaller audience.
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^^^ As a long time lurker, Ive read my share of comments; Well said friend, well said.
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that's a lot of words to just say "cater to what I want to see, not to what other users want to see"
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There's a lot of "I don't like this" and a fair but of strawmaning for what you're trying to say is objective.
Catgirls fuck (I'm not in a position to say otherwise), but let me remind you the dev himself admitted Futa content nearly won one of the Patreon polls, which goes directly against your argument about it being niche in the audience.
Developing futa-exclusive scenes was never a part of what futa enjoyer realistically want, and has been only brought up as a boogeyman by those who don't want it created at all.
I'm also curious about the extensive frotting tyrade. Frottage was never brought up in a 'must-have' manner, nothing about possible futa content was, beside giving the bot a dick at all. And how exactly giving the bot a cock stops you from fucking her in the ass anyway? And sure, it's not as huge of a fetish as others, but it isn't as tiny as you claim it to be either. Really it was just a huge paragraph about you not liking the thing and passing your very subjective opinion as fact. You not liking something does not make it an insignificant niche fetish.
See I first read it as an expansion on the cat ears currently in the game. The game already has ears, why not add eyes/tail/claws.
Take a look at super deepthroat. Its about as bare bones a "game" as you can get, but what it is and what it did, it did well. you had a customizable chick, and decent mouse controls. The only major limiting factor was flash itself, where the game would use too much memory and slowdown to below a snails pace.
Take a look at super deepthroat. Its about as bare bones a "game" as you can get, but what it is and what it did, it did well. you had a customizable chick, and decent mouse controls. The only major limiting factor was flash itself, where the game would use too much memory and slowdown to below a snails pace.
Futa is niche, but it seems like the people with the most niche tastes also have the most money to bankroll the type of porn they want to see the in the community (Patreon-only poll). Hence, why we have a slew of NTR, Furry fetish, and Sonic Inflation Porn out there on the internet. It's because these depraved sickos actually pay for porn.
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Most people in the world have hetero relationships. This is the reason you exist on the planet. Someone somewhere had a hetero (Straight) relationship, and now you exist.
I don't need to prove it, the simple fact that there are humans to type about this stuff proves my point for me.
-If you really want to look up numbers, it's around 2-4% of everyone in the world who like gay stuff (and that includes futa) stuff. That's an average total of the worlds audience. So sure, maybe that population is more desperate and so they dump more money at things. But if you want more widespread appeal, it makes sense to cater to the larger demographic.
That is from an australian study on the topic, yes Australia is on the ass end of the planet, and they have koala's which might be cute, but is also one of the stupidest animals on the planet -(really. Look up koala's intelligence, they are literally smooth-brains) but it matches up roughly with reporting from other countries, so I felt like it was accurate enough to use it.
And this game started out catering to the straight community. It currently has only a few scenes in. Grand total I think we are up to 3 sex scenes now? (missionary, doggy, blowjob) - so trying to put in stuff to cater to 4% or less of the population, unless that population is willing to throw down a fairly unlikely amount of money, just doesn't make sense, because of the time investment and potential loss of interest from the much much larger straight crowd.
(Talking about frottage was in response to the earlier poster who suggested that it would add more positions into the game. I probably should have quoted it, but i figured people would have read it already).
And yes 2-4% of the population being from a community that is interested in that fetish makes it a niche fetish automatically.
By comparison - saying the game should stick with what is working by keeping the Bot female, and adding in a bit of accessories to finish up the cat-girl options - is probably what the vast majority of people can probably enjoy. Those two things are definitely not niche interests.
The mainstream porn industry proves my point as well - just go to pornhub and do a simple comparison of the number of videos for gay/futa content vs the number of videos for straight content. I don't think I need to elaborate more on that point.
Further - I did not push my personal interests much at all, because I know and freely admit, my particular interests are also a bit niche. Look at my avatar!
<--- definitely NOT a Cat Girl!
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Data on the entire population is not a valid reflection of a community around a nsfw project, not to mention the usual issues with such polls and how it isn't representative of their preferences completely. In general when you go online the % of gay and queer folks increases.Most people in the world have hetero relationships. This is the reason you exist on the planet. Someone somewhere had a hetero (Straight) relationship, and now you exist.
I don't need to prove it, the simple fact that there are humans to type about this stuff proves my point for me.
-If you really want to look up numbers, it's around 2-4% of everyone in the world who like gay stuff (and that includes futa) stuff. That's an average total of the worlds audience. So sure, maybe that population is more desperate and so they dump more money at things. But if you want more widespread appeal, it makes sense to cater to the larger demographic.
That is from an australian study on the topic, yes Australia is on the ass end of the planet, and they have koala's which might be cute, but is also one of the stupidest animals on the planet -(really. Look up koala's intelligence, they are literally smooth-brains) but it matches up roughly with reporting from other countries, so I felt like it was accurate enough to use it.
And this game started out catering to the straight community. It currently has only a few scenes in. Grand total I think we are up to 3 sex scenes now? (missionary, doggy, blowjob) - so trying to put in stuff to cater to 4% or less of the population, unless that population is willing to throw down a fairly unlikely amount of money, just doesn't make sense, because of the time investment and potential loss of interest from the much much larger straight crowd.
(Talking about frottage was in response to the earlier poster who suggested that it would add more positions into the game. I probably should have quoted it, but i figured people would have read it already).
And yes 2-4% of the population being from a community that is interested in that fetish makes it a niche fetish automatically.
By comparison - saying the game should stick with what is working by keeping the Bot female, and adding in a bit of accessories to finish up the cat-girl options - is probably what the vast majority of people can probably enjoy. Those two things are definitely not niche interests.
The mainstream porn industry proves my point as well - just go to pornhub and do a simple comparison of the number of videos for gay/futa content vs the number of videos for straight content. I don't think I need to elaborate more on that point.
Further - I did not push my personal interests much at all, because I know and freely admit, my particular interests are also a bit niche. Look at my avatar!
<--- definitely NOT a Cat Girl!
The dev himself shown Futa having over 12% votes in a poll with rather spread out options. Sure, you can keep attributing it to more money being thrown, but it still represents a high interest, unless the dev. comes and says that all came from 10 guys throwing stupid amounts of money.
You talk about "keeping the bot female" like someone is trying to take it away from you or deny the dev time to it. Well, no one is. It's always been about an optional feature that should be added by popular vote.
And PH is not a good sample either, if you want good data about preferences around this game, you'd have to poll directly. Because communities vary. A lot.
You may not be pushing your personal interest, but you're pushing against what's not your interest.
While I don't disagree with having Futa as an option, I will say that fetishes are fetishes, and chicks with dicks is a fetish. Anything outside hetero/vanilla is a niche fetish, like BDSM, Furry, Futa, etc. Just because some internet weirdos crowdfund a Futa option, or just because there's slightly more gay/trans on the internet than irl doesn't make it anymore mainstream
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Holy cow that's a lot of words I'm not going to read. But did you know, and I just found this out myself, that bolding, italicizing, underlining, or doing all three at the same time doesn't actually help your point at all? So maybe it needs to be repeated, and maybe this way you'll see and understand: FUTA ALMOST WON THE LAST POLL, AND WAS ONLY BEHIND BY 3%. WHATEVER POINT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IS NULL AND VOID. THE POLLS DETERMINE WHAT ENDS UP IN THE GAME, SO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS AND VOTE.Most people in the world have hetero relationships. This is the reason you exist on the planet. Someone somewhere had a hetero (Straight) relationship, and now you exist.
I don't need to prove it, the simple fact that there are humans to type about this stuff proves my point for me.
-If you really want to look up numbers, it's around 2-4% of everyone in the world who like gay stuff (and that includes futa) stuff. That's an average total of the worlds audience. So sure, maybe that population is more desperate and so they dump more money at things. But if you want more widespread appeal, it makes sense to cater to the larger demographic.
That is from an australian study on the topic, yes Australia is on the ass end of the planet, and they have koala's which might be cute, but is also one of the stupidest animals on the planet -(really. Look up koala's intelligence, they are literally smooth-brains) but it matches up roughly with reporting from other countries, so I felt like it was accurate enough to use it.
And this game started out catering to the straight community. It currently has only a few scenes in. Grand total I think we are up to 3 sex scenes now? (missionary, doggy, blowjob) - so trying to put in stuff to cater to 4% or less of the population, unless that population is willing to throw down a fairly unlikely amount of money, just doesn't make sense, because of the time investment and potential loss of interest from the much much larger straight crowd.
(Talking about frottage was in response to the earlier poster who suggested that it would add more positions into the game. I probably should have quoted it, but i figured people would have read it already).
And yes 2-4% of the population being from a community that is interested in that fetish makes it a niche fetish automatically.
By comparison - saying the game should stick with what is working by keeping the Bot female, and adding in a bit of accessories to finish up the cat-girl options - is probably what the vast majority of people can probably enjoy. Those two things are definitely not niche interests.
The mainstream porn industry proves my point as well - just go to pornhub and do a simple comparison of the number of videos for gay/futa content vs the number of videos for straight content. I don't think I need to elaborate more on that point.
Further - I did not push my personal interests much at all, because I know and freely admit, my particular interests are also a bit niche. Look at my avatar!
<--- definitely NOT a Cat Girl!