VN Ren'Py Abandoned Once Upon a Time in Dream Town [Ch. 5 Add.1 - SPECIAL EDITION] [VIGOR]

[pussyreaperxxx]

I don't know why you say this is the first, back in the 90s almost all porn games VN or otherwise made in the west had real actors. Some of the best real porn games IMO since they had actors dedicated to the content.

Others have pointed out already but I would like to add that the games that I do remember having real porn only had static, not directly related images, off the top of my head I can think of strip card games (don't remember exactly poker/blackjack) which unlocked image after the game as a reward, which is definitely not a visual novel.
I think the "back in the 90's" you're thinking of are flash games from the late 00's which mostly used collected images as well, not hired actors.

Although I wouldn't be shocked if there are other VNs with actual actors, just a bit absurd to say that the dev is lying without any example.

Edit: Also, I think the point is that these aren't only separate photo sets used in VN but all of it together is in one set specifically made for the story. Even if it has been done before, it is extremely rare so I would believe the dev's claims unless someone has another example.

 

[omega_rugal]

150meg -_-

 

[wrggweg]

Can someone please clearly tell me how to break the loop during Maya's kissing scene?

 

[leg28]

Looks like it could be interesting. I generally don't like games based on real porn pictures but it's mostly because it's hard to make a sensible story out of random pictures. This on the other had is a dedicated story with pictures made for it.
However, the 'no sexual content' is a worry and the actors may not want to get there if they are not into shooting porn.

Not sure yet, could go either way and still be good without sex as long there is at least eroticism done well.
Good luck anyway!

you are right. having adult game with real people acting is cool idea. but no sexual content, just some nip slip... it is major worry. i can't see how this game can cover production expenses if vigor told the truth about them. because right now it doesn't look like professional production with actors. it looks more like bunch of friends having fun in their appartment. if dev wants to earn money, then he has to push limits and make it as amateur porn. that costs and needs actors willing to do it in front of photographer. otherwise financially it will suck. i was sincerely surprised when i realized that game as it is reached 100+ paying supporters.

yeah, story could be great without sex with great writing and well made, strong erotic content. but imo that requires nudity. so dev has to sit with actresses and see how far they are willing to go and price. than he has to put goals at patreon. for example: 1. when we reach 500 subscribers we'll have nudity, 2. when we reach 1000 subscribers we'll have sexual content, 3. when we reach 2000 subscribers we'll have explicit sex... (depends of what he agrees with crew).

if actors are not into it and want keep it way it is now, vigor's appeal for sponsors won't work and it shouldn't spend a dime anymore on them and "expensive production". because he can do same with his buddies almost for free. have friendly gathering where buddies in their appartments go in underwear and taking pics of each other. if so, they should be happy with current support. couple of hundred bucks monthly for having some fun is good.

i know that what i wrote might sounds too direct (especially to romance lovers) but we are talking about earning money on adult games site. dev himself is doing this for money. he said so in appeal for sponsoring due to costs. it is logical: why actors and production costs if he is doing it for fun?

to conclude if dev moves to vn made of photo sets with amateurs never seen before having explicit sex in different situations according screenplay (interesting corruption story), he probably hit the jackpot. it is different and new. as you said random porn pics to follow this story are impossible to find and sincerely it is dull.
if dev continues this way, he should cut expenses and enjoy in what he have.
anyway good luck to him, it is interesting either way, just expectations are different, as well as goals.

 

[DjKillerDev]

Real Porn Hmmm
Seems Someone Happy In My Pant,,
But - No Sexual Content
Now It's Very Hurt He Sad In Pant

 

[dohckab]

Are those both from the gold version?

The precious gold version.

 

[XHunterual]

speed up

 

[Joe Steel]

You didn't play the one's you buy in the stores then. Back then almost everyone in porn experimented in some way Blackjack games, VNs, etc. My favorite was see some 3 some where you had to fuck three different girls in the end getting a threeway scene. Bought it at a Hastings. But it was a VN that used real porn actors to respond to your dialogue choices.

Earlier you claimed that "back in the 90s almost all porn games VN or otherwise made in the west had real actors," and now it's that pron producers made some few card games or choice games using already-filmed porn. That';s a far cry from having actual actors playing out a script like this game has.

There were tons of games that didn't meet your claims, so "almost all" simply isn't true.

In any case, the dev isn't claiming to be the first to do this anyway. Whether this turns out to be well-done remains to be seen, but the signs are good. That it proves not to be financially viable is the bigger risk. I'm hoping that the cast and crew are more interested in getting experience and exposure than short-term financial gain.

That it isn't jumping into sex acts the first time these people meet is a good sign, IMO. I'd prefer it all to come more naturally, when it fits the story, not the expectations of inpatient bystanders.

 

[LaoAnjin]

LaoAnjin
I cannot understand why you are doing this. We're releasing the game for free anyway. You could wait another day or two and we ourselves would release an open public version. And that would be fair to us and to you.

Friends, in fact, we have very high costs for this project, unlike many other games that one person can make without any financial costs. We need to pay for the work of the actors, the photographer, the processing of photographs, the rent of location and equipment. And we release the game for free. Let us run our Patreon and monetization policies and treat us with respect. The production of the game has not paid off for a long time, we have to add funds from our personal family budget every month so that the project continues to develop. Please respect this.

I'm a newbie, I wish only share the free version of the game. I don't wish to damage anyone; Next time I will only advice that there is a new versione, that can be for you?

 

[Paitryn]

Earlier you claimed that "back in the 90s almost all porn games VN or otherwise made in the west had real actors," and now it's that pron producers made some few card games or choice games using already-filmed porn. That';s a far cry from having actual actors playing out a script like this game has.

I believe i rebuked the idea that they all used already filmed porn.

There were tons of games that didn't meet your claims, so "almost all" simply isn't true.

I will concede this as being rose colored glasses. My example was specifically given as one that had scenes and dialoge specifically for the game.

In any case, the dev isn't claiming to be the first to do this anyway.

actually he is, right on the first line of the description: " This is the world's first adult visual novel with real actors. "

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That it isn't jumping into sex acts the first time these people meet is a good sign, IMO. I'd prefer it all to come more naturally, when it fits the story, not the expectations of inpatient bystanders.
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Not sure who this is aimed at, as I made no comments about quality, only his boasting something that is simply not done today, but has been done in the past.

 

[Paitryn]

Others have pointed out already but I would like to add that the games that I do remember having real porn only had static, not directly related images, off the top of my head I can think of strip card games (don't remember exactly poker/blackjack) which unlocked image after the game as a reward, which is definitely not a visual novel.
I think the "back in the 90's" you're thinking of are flash games from the late 00's which mostly used collected images as well, not hired actors.

Although I wouldn't be shocked if there are other VNs with actual actors, just a bit absurd to say that the dev is lying without any example.

Edit: Also, I think the point is that these aren't only separate photo sets used in VN but all of it together is in one set specifically made for the story. Even if it has been done before, it is extremely rare so I would believe the dev's claims unless someone has another example.

And as I have pointed out already, there's the old HTML and flash games of the early 00s and then there were games you had to go to a store and buy. and I may be incorrect on frequency, I specifically pointed out at least one game made that didn't include already filmed porn and was made in a VN format.

 

[Joshua Tree]

There were those, not gonna lie, but like I posted above there were also those that were made specifically for the game.

Links?

 

[Joshua Tree]

Real Porn Hmmm
Seems Someone Happy In My Pant,,
But - No Sexual Content
Now It's Very Hurt He Sad In Pant

Just look at it like a "softcore porn movie". Most porn movies shoot back in the 80-90's, got shoot in two versions. One hardcore and one softcore. To be able to reach out to a larger audience and maximize profit. I remember Playboy cannel on cable back in the day, had a lot of softcore stuff, but still could give you a itch.

 

[leg28]

Just look at it like a "softcore porn movie". Most porn movies shoot back in the 80-90's, got shoot in two versions. One hardcore and one softcore. To be able to reach out to a larger audience and maximize profit. I remember Playboy cannel on cable back in the day, had a lot of softcore stuff, but still could give you a itch.

correct about history of porn. however both versions contained full nudity, soft version only lacked explicit sex. you see the guy on girl but no penetration, or that she is on her knees doing him but no actual bj.
as it is now this does not meet softcore porn versions standards either. heck, even does not qualified for R or 18 tag. maybe 15 at max. it is classical hollywood teen rom-com from 80s/90s but with less nudity. what is not good sign for adult game simply because there are no adult content. yet.
dev needs to tell us where is this going to. is there going to be explicit sex or real nudity. so we can decide should we support that. right now game is not adult game, it is more like bunch of freshmen in dormitory playing around in underwear. i mean, yeah, it got decent story. someone can support that too, like tossing coins to fiddler in metro, but serious support... why? maybe there is site for teen romantic vns where this game could do better as it is

 

[Joshua Tree]

correct about history of porn. however both versions contained full nudity, soft version only lacked explicit sex. you see the guy on girl but no penetration, or that she is on her knees doing him but no actual bj.
as it is now this does not meet softcore porn versions standards either. heck, even does not qualified for R or 18 tag. maybe 15 at max. it is classical hollywood teen rom-com from 80s/90s but with less nudity. what is not good sign for adult game simply because there are no adult content. yet.
dev needs to tell us where is this going to. is there going to be explicit sex or real nudity. so we can decide should we support that. right now game is not adult game, it is more like bunch of freshmen in dormitory playing around in underwear. i mean, yeah, it got decent story. someone can support that too, like tossing coins to fiddler in metro, but serious support... why? maybe there is site for teen romantic vns where this game could do better as it is

The game isn't completed yet though, so who knows where and how it ends up in the end.

 

[Cartageno]

Just look at it like a "softcore porn movie". Most porn movies shoot back in the 80-90's, got shoot in two versions. One hardcore and one softcore. To be able to reach out to a larger audience and maximize profit. I remember Playboy cannel on cable back in the day, had a lot of softcore stuff, but still could give you a itch.

correct about history of porn. however both versions contained full nudity, soft version only lacked explicit sex. you see the guy on girl but no penetration, or that she is on her knees doing him but no actual bj.
as it is now this does not meet softcore porn versions standards either. heck, even does not qualified for R or 18 tag. maybe 15 at max. it is classical hollywood teen rom-com from 80s/90s but with less nudity. what is not good sign for adult game simply because there are no adult content. yet.
dev needs to tell us where is this going to. is there going to be explicit sex or real nudity. so we can decide should we support that. right now game is not adult game, it is more like bunch of freshmen in dormitory playing around in underwear. i mean, yeah, it got decent story. someone can support that too, like tossing coins to fiddler in metro, but serious support... why? maybe there is site for teen romantic vns where this game could do better as it is

Ah yes, good old late 1980s/early 1990s when teenage me could watch certain channels at night showing the softcore versions. They still felt more arousing than usual softcore movies because they cut to the action quicker and there was only so much time until the parents came back from whatever family gathering. Also, they were incredibly short. But imagine my joy when I found the real version of one of my favorites in the early internet days. Oh Draghixa ...

 

[Cartageno]

The game isn't completed yet though, so who knows where and how it ends up in the end.

While I doubt it would get hardcore, this is the point. Right now we are still in the build up phase storywise. Personally I prefer games not to jump too early into sex with the main LIs.

 

[Joshua Tree]

While I doubt it would get hardcore, this is the point. Right now we are still in the build up phase storywise. Personally I prefer games not to jump too early into sex with the main LIs.

It doesn't need to go full hardcore with dicks and clams in your face to deliver a good experience though. The biggest sexual organ humans got is their brain after all.

 

[PANOS134EVER]

Can someone please clearly tell me how to break the loop during Maya's kissing scene?

The loop appears to happen because at the previous chapter the blonde girl didn't kiss the male protagonist, so just load a previous save or start a new game from the male perspective and when the spin the bottle scene comes up choose her to kiss him (the options there are a mess, just click one, see what happens and if it is wrong go back with your mouse and choose another one until you find the correct). There move forward with the other scenes and when the new chapter comes just ask her about her hobbies etc and at sometime they will kiss (again) and then it will move forward.

 

[Jazzmatazz]

I personally enjoy the story hardcore or no hardcore,i just
watch it because Elina...true work of art my friends