Well, strictly speaking, money is an issue because I live in an East EU, Post Communist Shithole where a decent salary here means well under minimum wage in a number of other countries. So while I'm living fairly comfortably, the 5$ that are a coffee or less for some is almost enough for a burger, fries and a drink here. (On some months, depending on exchange values, it's more than that... >.>") Which is why I always have to be mindful about stuff like Patreon and in general any international digital purchases.First off, thanks for showing interest! 100% don't stress about supporting if money is an issue, having you just hang out a free member is cool. There is a reason I am posting this on f95zone, and you will always find the second latest version here (or latest if someone else puts it up). I will also post it here when completed as I don't see any reason to fight the system
1. Patrons get the full game, I will update that on the Patreon to be clear. They also get access to the in development build. I don't really plan on selling the game anywhere else besides Patreon to be honest, but that might change.
2. The main limiting factor right now is funds for artwork. I have smashed through the code and writing and new artwork funds currently come from my wallet and paying an artist isn't cheap but it is worth it. As for actual timeline, I'm aiming for the end of the year for the game to be done. That being said, if I had a dollar for every time a game dev has given an incorrect estimate, I wouldn't need to run a Patreon lol. If I get a large influx, I think I could realistically half that time by bringing on more artist talent.
On the funding note, I only charge Patrons in a month that a build of the game is released and the demo doesn't count in my mind. So if I don't deliver that month, Patrons don't pay that month, it is only fair.
3. Yes, I plan on making them pretty much unlimited.
So is there any actual NTR or are we basically just playing a pimp, because what it sounds like we just playing a pimp and this game is falsely labeled as NTR.The line between NTR and corruption can be a thin one, often you will find games with NTR, and with any sort of innocent character, will have some form of corruption. Without giving too much away, the mind control doesn't actually happen to Molly. NTR-wise, EX has had prior dealings with Molly and there is certainly attraction there. You can start a relationship with Molly during the game if you'd like. Molly can also suck and fuck her way through missions if you have trained her to do, but she can also have a nice vanilla relationship with you if you don't push her down that path and dont mess up during critical points in certain missions.
So far a girl he seems to at least have a flirty/playful relationship with got kidnapped. If she gets raped and corrupted that would be sufficient for it to be NTR in my mind. Certainly would capture that feeling of loss and the supremacy of pleasure that makes NTR enjoyable for me.So is there any actual NTR or are we basically just playing a pimp, because what it sounds like we just playing a pimp and this game is falsely labeled as NTR.
That doesn't answer my question.So far a girl he seems to at least have a flirty/playful relationship with got kidnapped. If she gets raped and corrupted that would be sufficient for it to be NTR in my mind. Certainly would capture that feeling of loss and the supremacy of pleasure that makes NTR enjoyable for me.
Yeah, there are three antagonists with the primary one being "The Dictator".Is there actually a defined antagonist in this game or just npcs playing around with the heroine?
Yeah, I contemplated holding off until I had all the artwork done for the first day of the sandbox section but the Patrons asked for the intro to be released so they could get a look at it sooner.Certainly a very brief demo (c'mon, couldn't let us actually start the main game?), but I'm certainly intrigued. Will certainly keep an eye on things.
It seems like (going by your signiture) that you have a very narrow and specific thing in mind when you talk about NTR, which is fine all power to you. In this game, Molly is your friend and and can be your lover if you play your cards right, you can also determine if EX makes it more Netorase or Netorare depending on how willing the player's responses are. If that doesn't count as NTR for you, then it doesn't count but it does for quite a number of people.That doesn't answer my question.
It counts. Dont worry about that guy. Apparently he thinks he can dictate what a genre of games is or isnt and doesnt speak for the community, just himself. What he is describing is cuckolding which is obviously very similar but its not the same. I enjoy cheating content and the drama and chaos that surrounds it and how it affects all the characters lives and choices, but im not into the whole humiliation and cuckold thing. So if ntr was only that I would never play it. But anyway im looking forward to how this turns out. The spy premise is very interesting and I think it will mesh well with the projected content. I do agree with 1 thing that someone mentioned early, that hopefully there will be more save slots in the future so if you accidently make a wrong choice or something it will be easier to backtrack and change decisions or adjust stats and what not. But good luck wit the project looking forward to it.Yeah, there are three antagonists with the primary one being "The Dictator".
Yeah, I contemplated holding off until I had all the artwork done for the first day of the sandbox section but the Patrons asked for the intro to be released so they could get a look at it sooner.
It seems like (going by your signiture) that you have a very narrow and specific thing in mind when you talk about NTR, which is fine all power to you. In this game, Molly is your friend and and can be your lover if you play your cards right, you can also determine if EX makes it more Netorase or Netorare depending on how willing the player's responses are. If that doesn't count as NTR for you, then it doesn't count but it does for quite a number of people.
I write everything without AI assistance. The only thing that is AI right now are the backgrounds that are placeholder and will be replaced once my artist finishes all the other art (and the initial slideshow that Quincy does but he is an AI so I may end up leaving that small bit in as it is played for comedy). Ideally I want to find a second artist that specialises in backgrounds.I have to ask, how much of the game is ai generated ?
Cuz it seems to be a bit of a thing now that some parts are ai and others have an actual artist/writer behind
Don't think i've seen a more based dev before, gl on the project!>aren't u just training the ho?
Yes, but NTR gets thrown onto anything where a chick can get fucked by something other than the player. Frankly I'm well past caring about linguistic accuracy and colloquialisms after seeing how stupid the arguments can get.
>having parents who have sex is ntr
>a chick having ever had sex before meeting the player character is ntr
>a chick in an open relationship banging the player character and staying in the open relationship is ntr
>a girl who clearly indicates that she isn't romanceable having sex with anyone else is ntr
Doesn't have to make sense.
>pollen is tree cum
>if your girl goes outside and inhales pollen she inhales tree cum
>you're getting cucked by the trees
>so is she, since you're breathing it too
>...or is it a threeway with nature?
Fair point, I should have probably gone with "Prologue" or something similar as opposed to demo. As I mentioned before, I only released this version due to the request of patrons. The "Day One" build should be completed within a month as the coding and writing for the first day is done already, I am just awaiting artwork. I appreciate the feedback!I don't want to be a sour plum but this demo wasn't really a good demo at all. There's a line at the end of the game that goes something like, 'I hope this demo shows you the quality of this game', but to be honest, nothing was demonstrated at all in this demo. It's merely a short VN prologue that introduces the characters, and spends like 2 minutes glossing over the prospective mechanics of the game. It never actually gives us a chance to actually play, say, 1 day. Basically, I expected a smidgen of gameplay and didn't get any of it.
I like the girls, they look good. Not a fan of the AI backgrounds at all, they make games uglier. For now, I'll put my trust in the developer to deliver decent gameplay and hot NTR, because I don't doubt they're capable of it. I just think this demo is a disappointment.