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Thanks!The setting is familiar but fresh, the characters are interesting and the overall story and dialogue flow really nicely.
I just have to say, great job. If the uploads keep coming I'll definitely support it.
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So I recently played this for the first time and overall I’m impressed. My 2 cents if I may (long post, so fair warning):
* Although the “copycat” power concept isn't new, I like the limitations that have been baked in right from the start. I also hope to see further limitations or struggles for the MC to overcome, as that’s what makes for solid character growth. Maybe he unintentionally hurts himself, or others, putting real fear into those close to him. Or he can’t use more than two powers at once, or maybe even some powers clash and have unintended effects when used together. Here’s to hoping...
* I’m really liking the personalities of the characters. With MC, you have this “normie” who has to navigate a high-school (hierarchy) setting where nearly everyone around him can flatten him. I’ve seen the complaints on this thread, but I think his personality is done well and matches the setting. He’s pretty brave when you think about his actions and who he’s standing up to. Maybe you can argue he self-loathes a bit much, but, since he’s not immune to bullying, I can empathize with his depiction. I’m sure we’ll see a bit of evolution if Jacquesdor keeps with what he’s pulled off thus far.
* I also like the people immediately around MC. Fraser as a pseudo–narrator/guide is a nice touch. I also like the banter of Evelyn and Amber. Both take some pretty funny shots at the group. I’m also loving how Amber represents the unfavorable sides of superpowers, and I also like how shes managing to keep her head held high as best she can.
* The big one for me, I genuinely appreciate how trauma is a recurring theme of the game. And it seems like most of the characters have or continue to suffer from it. Again, Amber is great because we’re seeing her live through her struggles and those to come (possible forced relocation and separation). Then there’s the MC and Kyle, Parker and her husband, Moonsong and her brother (and parents?... can’t remember at the moment), the hint with Evelyn and her mom, not to mention her alcoholic father. No one is living a perfect life, and it’s not always power-related either. A nice contrast to the expected awe and fascination of a super power filled world. I liked it when X-Men would delve into this, so, again, love seeing it here.
I also read through the entire thread and wanted to address some of the arguments too:
* Regarding Parker, I empathize with the arguments from both sides. My guess, she’s a sex addict who’s using it as a coping mechanism. And her “having different guys over every other night,” (or whatever the line is), is in order to avoid attachment. I mean, she had the love of her life die during intimacy. How on earth do you get over that? Do you ever risk something like that happening again? Probably not. A stretch here, it may also explain why she likes younger guys too; less chance of them kicking the bucket during.
However, I also agree that sex addict isn’t always the best look for a character. I get it, it depends on the story, the genre, etc, and it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. I will agree with those saying her behavior during the birthday dinner is too much. The lead up car scene, where Evelyn talks about being nervous implies that the relationship with the MC, and indirectly with Parker, too, is on the cusp of change. Parker knows this and says it too with her “shipping” comment. This was a solid heartfelt moment in the making. It also implies a closeness between Evelyn and Parker as well. But then, Parker flips the switch.
I sorta get it if Jacquesdor is pushing a possible trauma -> sex addict character point, but to act like this on essentially your son’s birthday, and in the presence of his best friend, someone close to the family, and someone he’s very much likely to start a real relationship with, is just too much of a stretch here. And if it’s only to let the MC know he “has a chance,” with Parker, and not to reinforce trauma and that particular character trait (which it actually does, but only if my assumptions about Parker's trauma are correct), then, again, it’s a bit too much.
* Lastly, the Evelyn arguments. In game, it pretty much says that Evelyn feels what her host feels. As in, she feels the sex and experiences the orgasms. What isn’t explained, is to what degree, and I think here is the crux of the arguments I’m seeing in this thread. Is she feeling exactly, like 1:1, what the host feels? Is she feeling every aspect; every kiss, touch, spark, chill, thrust, etc? Do her powers allow her to go beyond a mental aspect, as in, is she feeling the emotions of the host? Is she experiencing her own emotions, too, during the host’s sex? If so, to what degree?
I think if we were to hear her explain the degrees of, and differences in, sex between using her powers versus having the real thing with the MC, that could alleviate some of the issues others in the thread are having. However, if she is indeed feeling everything, then I can understand the arguments against her and her sexual “innocence,” if you will. Not that she or anyone needs to be some doe-eyed maiden, but I do get the arguments, given the flashbacks and build-up to the moment when she and MC finally do the deed.
Anyway, I’m certainly looking forward to when things become clearer regarding trauma, personalities, perceptions, and the like. To you personally Jacquesdor, I’d say just keep doing exactly what you're doing because it’s pretty darn good thus far.
It's mentioned in a flashback by clicking the picture in Parker's bedroom. The husband had an undetected tumor and dropped dead while he and Parker were having sex.i dont remember anything beeing mentioned about her husband and how she losed him,
Which I said, glad we agree.and even if everything was true about that trauma, it would only justify why she fuck around and doesnt get attached.
Yeah, that birthday scene again. As I said, I think many of us agree it was too much, and I agree that it seems absurd that Parker couldn't show any restraint. I like how you said it, that she prioritized herself, and in that particular circumstance, makes it harder to like her.She can have a sexual life ...Evelyn ... mc birthday...snip
I think Jacquesdor mentioned somewhere that there will be a future conversation in which Evelyn goes into detail about her powers. Depending on how exactly they work, we may very well see the MC throw Evelyn's hypocrisy back in her face. As someone who loves conflict in his stories, I'd love to see this in a "Non Evelyn" route.For Evelyn ... her hypocrisy ...snip
Good points, let me respond to a few things here:
It's mentioned in a flashback by clicking the picture in Parker's bedroom. The husband had an undetected tumor and dropped dead while he and Parker were having sex.
Which I said, glad we agree.
Yeah, that birthday scene again. As I said, I think many of us agree it was too much, and I agree that it seems absurd that Parker couldn't show any restraint. I like how you said it, that she prioritized herself, and in that particular circumstance, makes it harder to like her.
I will give the benefit of doubt to Jacquesdor if more character development is planned to flesh out Parker's behavior. If not, maybe he wants to watch the world burn...
I think Jacquesdor mentioned somewhere that there will be a future conversation in which Evelyn goes into detail about her powers. Depending on how exactly they work, we may very well see the MC throw Evelyn's hypocrisy back in her face. As someone who loves conflict in his stories, I'd love to see this in a "Non Evelyn" route.
As for your spoilers, Moonsong made those decisions and such in a controlled environment, in the middle of nowhere and with the two best teachers the MC could have since its their powers he copied.
As for trust, well, I bet Moonsong and Emerald could take the MC down if needed. They also seem to have connections to MTF. I can only wonder where Jacquesdor takes the story with that. Lastly, Jacquesdor mentioned that the other girls won't be on board at first.
With the aforementioned vampire guy with similar powers, he was capable of taking what he wanted. MC specifically has limitations baked in. Remember, Moonsong talks a lot about emotions, as in both MC and his partner need to feel pleasure and orgasm together. I have a feeling it was written this way specifically to avoid any kind of forced or coerced actions (and keep the game kosher for Patreon and Steam).
As for that last scene, I can't help but think something fishy is going on. Like, I found it odd that when the MC was attacked, 3 (or more, can't remember) members of supposedly the most famous super hero team happened to be near this random parking garage and intervene. And they did so kinda quickly too. And they kill tiger guy before questioning (we never saw it). My theory, some (or all) of the heroes are working with the villains. I'm assuming MTF are the "bad guys" given the flashbacks, and with the connection to MTF that Moonsong mentions, I bet they're either in on things, or maybe they're simply being used unknowingly.
First of all, I want to say that I'm glad you came here to talk about it. I read a reply you wrote on itch.io and it left me with a very bad impression of you. I see it's already deleted and I understand that it was the heat of the moment. We are all human, after all.I’m going to address a few things as vaguely as I can for fear of spoilers and call it there because I can’t handle perusing this thread so much anymore. Not because I’m pissed some people don’t like it - I was always going to get people who didn’t and there are plenty that do - but because it's frustrating as most of the criticisms being levied against it, literally about 80%, are nullified if people could just be patient and wait for the story to unfold. It’s my own fault for not dumbing it down and immediately serving the whole story up on a silver platter, I guess.
Now to the topic I'm writing this for. Alright, you didn't want to make Parker the typical bored housewife with no sex life for 20 years. So, as you say, you went to the extreme. Make her sexual to the extreme. I insist that to me, just another player in your game, it makes no sense what you did with Parker. In my opinion what is totally left over and to me fails horribly in showing that Parker is "very sexual", is the MC's birthday party thing. As I said in my comment, what Parker does makes me see and think that as you say, she at that moment only thinks of herself and uses another subject for her own pleasure at her "son's" birthday party. That's what makes me see her as a selfish person. I don't want to say that she is a horrible person, but I do find what she did fucking horrible. You say you want to do things differently. I get it, but making a character a sex addict isn't much different than what we've already seen in other games. And if being "sexual to the extreme" is not being a sexually addicted person, then I don't know what is.And the elephant in the room, Parker. I’ll start by admitting my faults here. For one, as a previous commenter brought up, the internal monologue MC has while he witnesses what’s going on in that restroom was completely off-base for what I really wanted to convey. He’s not horny because he’s seeing her get her pussy eaten by another guy (and just to clarify, that’s all that happens during that scene – she literally uses him for her own pleasure and sends him on his way), he’s horny simply because he’s seeing her sexually. That’s why I included the solo scene instead, because it serves the same purpose. And yes, because it’s with a younger guy and he now realizes that she could be with someone like him.
At present, that internal monologue does not come across that way and does make him come across as a bit of a cuck, and that’s totally my bad. I have re-written this scene to improve the internal monologue and have also amended some other things to make it crystal clear where I was going with it (and also why I included it in the first place when I could have just cut it).
I wanted to do things differently and make “the mother figure” a sexual being, to a fault. Is she coming across a bit too slutty? Yes she is, I'm toning it down a tad. Should she have pounced on the guy that was hitting on Evelyn and all during the MC’s birthday? No, definitely not, but again “sexual to a fault”. And maybe there’s other things going on that, again, you’d have to be patient on. Was it my intention to have Parker, or any character for that matter, immediately liked by all? No, it was not.
Hey! Thank you for this. I'm all for respectful criticism. That's part of why I lost my cool a bit with the Itch comment you mentioned. Because a lot of it wasn't respectful, and honestly straight up lies (I'm talking things like the guy who said there is going to be futa content so "expect heavy NTR" or that there is a cuck variable), and its really disheartening to see people try to warn off other people from your game you've sank thousands of hours into for things that just aren't true. I'm trying to develop thicker skin to let these people get to me less, but I'm a newbie at all this so it will take time.Everything you said.
It's a huge problem with the entire avn community. A lot of people have a very low threshold for discomfort, and no willingness to let a dev cook.if people could just be patient and wait for the story to unfold
Don't take to long, I'm in my 60's and would love to see the end of it .Hey! Thank you for this. I'm all for respectful criticism. That's part of why I lost my cool a bit with the Itch comment you mentioned. Because a lot of it wasn't respectful, and honestly straight up lies (I'm talking things like the guy who said there is going to be futa content so "expect heavy NTR" or that there is a cuck variable), and its really disheartening to see people try to warn off other people from your game you've sank thousands of hours into for things that just aren't true. I'm trying to develop thicker skin to let these people get to me less, but I'm a newbie at all this so it will take time.
I don't have much time to respond now, but I will say I get a lot of the criticism against Parker. What she did was a bit too much and like I said MC's inner monologue doesn't really convey my true intention. I'm hoping the rewrites and subsequent chapters will somewhat get across what I'm really going for in the long long game... but yeah... must... not... spoil.
What do you mean? You don't start at the end when you're reading a book? How else will you find out who murderer is???but because it's frustrating as most of the criticisms being levied against it, literally about 80%, are nullified if people could just be patient and wait for the story to unfold. It’s my own fault for not dumbing it down and immediately serving the whole story up on a silver platter, I guess.
Don't worry I won't. I was being sarcastic.What do you mean? You don't start at the end when you're reading a book? How else will you find out who murderer is???
I watch EVERYTHING when I play a VN for the first time. I mean, it's a fictional rendered story, I can handle the LI's not being all virgins........
I know I've been one of the more vocal regarding the....people that complains to a fault because something doesn't fit their opinion on how things should be but it just pisses me of. This has started as a incredible interesting story and I'm VERY psyched to see what it becomes and it sucks that you think this way, PLEASE don't dumb it down!
I love that you're actually building a story with this VN. Can hardly wait to see it unfold!Don't worry I won't. I was being sarcastic.
one can only hopeHope something comes of that throwaway piss comment